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Delicate question about first experiences masturbating

Started by KabitTarah, September 08, 2013, 08:58:12 PM

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Sammy

Quote from: LilDevilOfPrada on September 09, 2013, 11:56:35 AM
I have a tiny Penis. Till I was 15 I never masturbated... lol weird right but I honestly never knew I could do that I only had wet dreams. Then at 16 began blockers and masterbated 10 times after thyat for a sperm bank that was it. So literally done it 12 times and well not like a girl cuz it wouldnt work. AH well I can wait for srs till I do it again :D

Hey, its not weird :P. I never masturbated till I was 23 (yeah, I know, nobody would believe anyway), because I literally had no idea what I was supposed to do down there.
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KabitTarah

Quote from: A on September 09, 2013, 10:59:31 PM
It takes a specific personality type to be able to move on into the present without understanding the past, and honestly I'm not in that case.

I can relate to that. It seems to me like understanding the past and understanding the present are part of the same process.
~ Tarah ~

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anjaq

A, I think you are right there - it is not something that is done easily by everyone. Nowadays, I think I would have less of a hard time to do this and just say forget the past, think about now. Back then with all the insecurity and stunted personality I would not have been able to do so. Transitioning helped me to grow in that sense. Its like a tree that wants to grow but at a young age always the new branches are cut and only the ones the gardener wants are left standing - not because it is good for the tree but because the tree then gives more fruit or fits better in the arrangement of the garden. When the gardener goes away the tree can finally grow and become a full healthy tree. Some of the old branches are kept, most die off as they are overshadowed by the new growth on top. Some of the old cuts will remain as scars, still noticeable but fading and maybe new branches replace the ones that were cut. Of course that tree then also disturbs the arrangement of the garden to the dismay of those who want it arranged orderly but a wild garden can be much more beautiful than one that is carefully arranged. So a personality who is like that tree will at first maybe not have the ability to think that way, to just look at the present, as there is too much uncertainty and fear of being hurt again. Looking at what has happened, at where those branches were cut and to realize that they have been cut is painful but it allows to grow back these branches and because we are not trees we can actually drive back that gardener once we have found out that we ourselves are also the gardener, carrying out orders from the masters - the society around us.

Erm - maybe that was a bit too metaphoric. In short: Yes it is a personality issue, not one that cannot be changed and certainly different people can have differet ways to get there and look at the present more than the past. To be blind against the past is also not good and that is what mayn transpeople do pre-transition. Not look at the past as it is just full of shi...

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Kate G



New neural pathways are created every time we remember a memory which causes the memory to change every time we remember it.


"To get something you never had, you have to do something you never did." -Unknown
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KabitTarah

Quote from: Kate G on September 10, 2013, 08:40:10 AM


New neural pathways are created every time we remember a memory which causes the memory to change every time we remember it.

I asked that question of my therapist. When you find "new" memories (lost ones) how can you be sure they're real and not imagined. His explanation boiled down to... your memories are influenced by your present - any emotions you have now or the stimuli you get from your environment (i.e. family and friends)... even past memories. This is an influence - it doesn't create new memories. Creating new memories from nothing (and don't quote me or my therapist - this was a few weeks ago) is a psychological problem of delusion.

I compared it to the Kurosawa movie "Rashomon." A crime occurs and is replayed back through the eyes of all the witnesses... each memory drastically different. This covers different people seeing the same scene, but also relates to the same person over time... the scene changes. (The "Rashomon Effect" is also apparently a psychological principle)

Yes, the memories are important (at least to me ;) )... no they aren't everything.
~ Tarah ~

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Murbella

Your perceptions of reality are heavily weighted by your expectations of reality.  These expectations are based on years and years of witnessing cause and effect relationships through an emotional lens.  Consciousness doesn't interact directly with reality, only a model of reality that is created within our own mind, and this model is being constantly refined based on new data and our feelings about said data.  So each memory gets saved as an impression of an event and the emotional context of the event.  Memories do not get saved in a loss-less format though for purposes of saving space in the presence of compressible information.  When you remember something, your brain pulls up the impression of the event and the emotion context of the event, then uses your current mental model of reality and current emotional state to fill in the gaps.  This act of remembering is transformative for the memory as it is re-saved using the current model of reality and emotional context.

VeronicaLynn

It seems mine was kind of weird, when I was in middle school, the prettiest girl in school,  asked me if I masturbated on the school bus and I said no, and didn't know what it was. She called over the coolest guy on the bus, and he explained in detail as to how guys masturbate, and then she added that girls do it differently, but she does it all the time and it's a lot of fun, which cool guy agreed with. That night was, well you can imagine...
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Murbella

wow, that must have been a very awkward bus ride... kids these days ;-p

Tyler92

Quote from: pebbles on September 09, 2013, 04:24:38 PM
I didn't do anything like you girls describe, I felt guilty afterwards but at the time I just did it "Normally" Closed my eyes imagined a girl I thought was cute and waggled.


This is pretty much what I do. Imagining myself as a guy just doesn't work for me.
I have came up with a different way for me to do it, and it is a hella lot better, it just takes too much time.

As for my first time, I was 15, I had clothes on, and I was simulating sex as if I were a woman. I honestly had no idea about orgasms and that sort, so when it happened, I started freaking out a little. Luckily I was home alone, so I hurried and threw my clothes in the washer and I was like "I am not doing that again." lol This may get a bit personal, but I tell ya, that first time, I would say was the best time.
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shelby513

As silly as it sounds, my first time happened by accident.  I was 11 and was in bed getting ready to go to sleep wearing a nightgown I had managed to sneak from my mom's closet.  I had shifted position and the nightgown had brushed against down there and the silkiness of it felt really good.  I then proceeded like it sounds others had and approached it like a young girl would.  When the moment arrived it scared the crap out of me. I knew about sex and how everything worked, I just didn't realize masturbation was a thing--I for some reason thought that climax was something that required a partner, so for a second there I thought I broke something or had some sort of serious problem.
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anjaq

Ok - now I will share also a bit of an intimate thing and see if someone can relate. I felt a lot of guilt and shame about sexuality and did not want these urges. But of course they were still there. So what I did a few times was really weird. I took as many slips (underwear) as I could (not from mothers closet or anything) from my box and pulled them up one by one until I could not see or feel the genitals I had then - except as a dampened fuzzy sense of being touched. And then I did this masturbating thing. It hurt a bit but to me it was much better than the other way, as I felt like I was "flat". Does that make sense? It was when I was really young at beginning of puberty - later things changed, though.

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