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The hardest part of my transition by far...

Started by Olivia-Anne, September 09, 2013, 08:06:52 PM

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Olivia-Anne

So a couple of days ago I did the thing that I had been dreading my entire life. I came out to my dad this past Friday. The kicker, of this whole thing, is that my father works with me and for me. Yes I said for me. So after work on Friday I went to my parents house after work with the intent to tell him. I sat inside my car on the side of their house for about 10 minutes before I finally mustered up the courage to go inside. I was literally yelling at myself to go inside and tell him. I knocked on the door and my mother answered. I mouthed to her that I was there to tell my dad. I had come out to my mother a couple of months ago now. She knew what I meant immediately and gave me a big hug and told me that she loved me and that everything would work out. She said she would be there when I needed her.

After I walked in my dad realized that I was there and began to talk to me about work stuff. We "shot the ->-bleeped-<-" for about 10 minutes or so. Then I finally just asked him to turn off the T.V., that I had something I needed to talk to him about. I danced around what I was going to say for a minute or two. Than I said that there was something that I had been dealing with for most of my life. That it was something that I had been wanting to tell him, specifically, for sometime. Then I just told him that I was transgender.

He didn't know what transgender meant so I gave him the summed up definition. I said basically that I was a woman trapped in a mans body. As a disclaimer, I don't personally subscribe to that notion of being trapped in my body, but I digress... As soon as I told him that definition the blood drained from his face a little bit and he assumed a very stoic expression. After a couple of seconds he uttered plainly, "I don't  know what you want me to say." To which I could only respond with tears at that point.

After a couple of minutes of awkward silence he asked if my mom knew. So I immediately called out to my mom who was eves dropping in the other room. When she entered he asked her if she knew. My mom went on to explain that she had known for a little while. She also started to try to explain a little bit about the situation. She told him that I did not choose this, it was and isn't a choice anyone would really make. She said that this was very hard for me. She also said that she could tell, after she saw me as my real self, that I was meant to be this way. Obviously my mom is supportive of me, which is the greatest comfort I have found in my transition thus far, with the one exception of my new girlfriend. (Love you baby!) I was completely broken down and crying at this point. She was by my side comforting me and rubbing my back. After my mom was done giving her point of view he was visibly distraught.

When my mom was done explaining her point of view a little, he finally found some words. He said, "I love you, you will always be my son. I will always refer to you as such. I will only ever call you by _____. That was the name that I gave you and that is the name you will always have." After he said that I completely lost it and was crying uncontrollably. My mom was whispering in my ear that he didn't mean it like it sounded and that he was trying to tell me that he loved me. In a way I could see how she might think that. But, honestly, I know my father fairly well and I know exactly what he meant by those words. I know, to him, I will always be something I never was. After I was able to gather some measure of composure I said something that would allow me to go home. I can't quite recall what it was that I said.

Fast forward a couple days to Monday morning. I guess he showed up early to work. One of the other employees was there. The other employee told me that about an hour or so before I got there that my dad had gone home "sick". I tried to not really show on my face what this meant exactly as I was and am pretty emotional about all of this. I ended up going to the bathroom and having a bit of a cry. I tried to text my mom to see how he was doing. She just plainly said that "He is not taking this very well at all." I tried to inquire further as to what was going on or if he had spoken anymore to her about it. But as of right this moment, I am still awaiting a reply. I was talking to my sister about this about the same time. She was saying that I should make an appointment with my therapist.( I already had a couple day ago) I tried to get some sort of solace from her but she just mentioned the therapist again. I know that she means well but I think in regards to this particular situation she is at a loss for words.

The one bit of silver lining to all of this is that I am finally out to him. That sounds like a simple act but for me this was the biggest step in my transition. Bigger than my first time out dressed or taking hormones or anything. This was my big thing to overcome, by far. He didn't disown me, but by no means are things "ok". A lot of work and effort is going to have to go into our relationship, on both sides. Hopefully he is willing to put in the effort on his end. I know my mom will be there to urge him in the right direction. But at least I have finally started down this road I have been unwilling to walk for so long.

<3 Liv
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Jamie D

Olivia, I'm proud of you.  Give him a little time, and let your mom run interference for you.
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Katie

I have a little secret for you. After you get SRS the serious transition starts. See prior to that its your time to learn but all that while you can always turn back.

After SRS everything is real and needless to say as time goes by you loose the ability to associate what life was like before. You also loose that feedback from people since you blend better. You then start asking yourself how your doing and since you have no feedback it is a challenge. LOL

Just a couple examples of what its like after SRS.
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Kate G

In my experience, the scariest and most difficult part of transition is going full-time and coming out to people as transitioning.  Really making the decision to transition is the most difficult step (in my own experience).  Anyway... those are the most difficult things to accomplish.

Why?  Because the thing we as humans tend to fear most of all is fear.  We fear fear.  Give us something concrete to overcome we can do anything but left alone to our own imaginations fear becomes a deep dark pit that we can never climb out of.
"To get something you never had, you have to do something you never did." -Unknown
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Darkie

*hugs tight* That was very brave of you and I'm sorry it didn't go exactly the way one would hope.  But, you are dealing way better than I would ever be able to.
Courage is the power that turn dreams into reality.
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bethany

Olivia it takes a lot of courage to come out especially to people who have known you since birth. This is a huge step in you're transition.  And while it did not go as smoothly as you had hoped at least you have you're mom on you're side. Give you're dad time to digest this news he just might come around.

My dad use to say the same thing about calling me by my birth name but after a few months he is slowly getting use to calling me Beth, thought he refuses to use female pronouns. But who knows that might change soon. So keep you're hopes up and maybe you're dad will realise just how much this means to you.

I wish you nothing but the best in you're transition.
Big Hugs
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JLT1

Hang in there.  I beleive he will come around but it will take time, perhaps a lot of time.

Congrads for having the strength reqiuired to do this.

Hugs,

Jen
To move forward is to leave behind that which has become dear. It is a call into the wild, into becoming someone currently unknown to us. For most, it is a call too frightening and too challenging to heed. For some, it is a call to be more than we were capable of being, both now and in the future.
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Olivia-Anne

Quote from: Katie on September 09, 2013, 08:49:57 PM
I have a little secret for you. After you get SRS the serious transition starts. See prior to that its your time to learn but all that while you can always turn back.

After SRS everything is real and needless to say as time goes by you loose the ability to associate what life was like before. You also loose that feedback from people since you blend better. You then start asking yourself how your doing and since you have no feedback it is a challenge. LOL

Just a couple examples of what its like after SRS.

Sooo, a girl that is a non-op is not considered to have transitioned? This was a post more personal than broad. This is the hardest part of MY transition. I have a little secret for you, once you tell someone you're trans you can never go back. The no turning back point is not SRS. Sorry if this post seems a little pointed, I'm just a smart-ass.

Thank you for your support ladies, I just needed to get those words out of my head. They have been swimming around in there the past couple days. :-\

<3 Liv
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Rachel84

Congrats Olivia, I know how you feel.  Telling my dad I was transgender was who I was most worried about telling (and the reason I didn't do anything sooner).  He's also very conservative and religious.  He had a similar reaction to your father and took it very hard.  I told him over a weekend I was home from school for a few days, and he hardly spoke to me before I went back.  I ended up moving back in with my parents a couple months later, and for several months things between us were tough.  I was dressing in more feminine clothes and the effects from HRT were very apparent. 
Slowly though things have gotten better though.  He still has some difficulty using my preferred name and gender pronouns, but he isn't as distant as he previously was.  We have even been able to talk some things through about how I feel, and he's told me although it is difficult for him to see me this way, he is becoming more accepting towards everything. 
I do hope things get better for you.  I also broke down a week later and spent two whole days crying (thankfully my brother was able to help with all my doubts and fears).  Although we still have a ways to go, things between us have gotten better.  It just takes time.
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Samantha Stone

I realy agree with Olivia.  She hit the nail on the head!  Can't add anything better.

Samantha
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Olivia-Anne

Quote from: Rachel84 on September 09, 2013, 10:58:36 PM
Congrats Olivia, I know how you feel.  Telling my dad I was transgender was who I was most worried about telling (and the reason I didn't do anything sooner).  He's also very conservative and religious.  He had a similar reaction to your father and took it very hard.  I told him over a weekend I was home from school for a few days, and he hardly spoke to me before I went back.  I ended up moving back in with my parents a couple months later, and for several months things between us were tough.  I was dressing in more feminine clothes and the effects from HRT were very apparent. 
Slowly though things have gotten better though.  He still has some difficulty using my preferred name and gender pronouns, but he isn't as distant as he previously was.  We have even been able to talk some things through about how I feel, and he's told me although it is difficult for him to see me this way, he is becoming more accepting towards everything. 
I do hope things get better for you.  I also broke down a week later and spent two whole days crying (thankfully my brother was able to help with all my doubts and fears).  Although we still have a ways to go, things between us have gotten better.  It just takes time.

Thank you, I can see that you can relate. I am hoping that all it will take is some time. That is what my siblings are saying. But like anything, only time will tell.

<3 Liv
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MaidofOrleans

Congrats on having the courage to tell your dad, especially face to face. I know it is hard, mine was the hardest as well. Now we will see if he has the courage to accept you as mine did.
"For transpeople, using the right pronoun is NOT simply a 'political correctness' issue. It's core to the entire struggle transpeople go through. Using the wrong pronoun means 'I don't recognize you as who you are.' It means 'I think you're confused, delusional, or mentally I'll.'. It means 'you're not important enough for me to acknowledge your struggle.'"
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Sammy

Olivia, time "heals" everything and I am sure Your dad eventually will become more accepting. You are his child anyway and despite him not acknowledging You as his daugther YET, it will settle down in him - day by day, step by step. I am sure Your mom will help him and support him too - as she supported You.

And yeah, coming out to men is more... difficult than with women. It must be really hard to come out to Your own father and require a lot of courage - I am almost glad that I am spared of this experience.

By the way, You are absolutely right in saying that once You tell someone that You are trans - there is no coming back.
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Kate G

Try not to expect too much from your parents.  I transitioned too and honestly the best way to deal with parents is in moderation.  It is important to have enough going on in your life that what your parents think about you is very small and off to the side.  My parents continue to use the wrong pronouns (by accident) and lately they have even resorted to using my old name upon occasion and I went full-time a almost a decade ago.

For years I have blamed myself for when my parents use the wrong pronouns, I have believed that I am just not feminine enough or that I had failed in my transition.  Honestly you just have to let your parents deal with it on their terms and if they are pleasant to be with then be around them and if not then absence makes the heart grow fond.  The worst thing I ever did was try to educate people into understanding and appreciating my situation, I mean all you can do is give them the basics and let them roll with it.  You can't change how they feel about it and the harder you try the more it will backfire on you.

So let your dad sort it out on his own time.  And realize that you have a life to live and don't allow other people to rent space in your head unless they are good tenants.

Perhaps if you just live your life and are happy then your father will begin to see that this is a good thing for you and if he loves you then he will come to share your joy.  If you allow this to drag you down then your father is likely to see it as a bad thing that is ruining everyone's happiness.  Sometimes when you love someone you have to let go a little because if you push the natural reaction of anyone is to push back.
"To get something you never had, you have to do something you never did." -Unknown
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kelly_aus

Congrats on telling him face to face.. I chickened out of telling my dad directly at all, I told my step-sister and waited for her to gossip - only took 24 hours.


Quote from: Olivia-Anne on September 09, 2013, 10:00:25 PM
Sooo, a girl that is a non-op is not considered to have transitioned? This was a post more personal than broad. This is the hardest part of MY transition. I have a little secret for you, once you tell someone you're trans you can never go back. The no turning back point is not SRS. Sorry if this post seems a little pointed, I'm just a smart-ass.

Thank you for your support ladies, I just needed to get those words out of my head. They have been swimming around in there the past couple days. :-\

<3 Liv

As another non-op girl, I agree with this completey..
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DrBobbi

Quote from: Olivia-Anne on September 09, 2013, 08:06:52 PM
The one bit of silver lining to all of this is that I am finally out to him. That sounds like a simple act but for me this was the biggest step in my transition. Bigger than my first time out dressed or taking hormones or anything.\

Congratulations! I came out to my father in a restaurant. He's 84, a still practicing corporate lawyer, and he just smiled and said "o.K." I then asked if he understood what I was saying, to which he answered, "Yes, the next time we share a hotel room you'll have a pussy." I looked at him with tears in my eyes and asked, "How's your food?" He smiled. I was lucky with him. My 30 year old daughter Katy, the NBC news reporter, has been mean, caustic, and hasn't said a word to me in 5 months. She was fine with transgender people until it "happened" to her father. NIMBY. My x hasn't been much better. My 26 year-old son, whose also transgender, but still figuring it out is better. He hasn't seen me in 6 months because he's scared. We talk, but it's awkward. All I can do is tell him how happy I am and how well my friends have treated me. Too bad the two most important women in his life are so transphobic.

Olivia, hang in there. In the end, he loves you and will sort it out with your mother's help. Especially if you keep your dignity, and sense of humor. Best of luck and love!
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DrBobbi

Quote from: Olivia-Anne on September 09, 2013, 08:06:52 PM

The one bit of silver lining to all of this is that I am finally out to him. That sounds like a simple act but for me this was the biggest step in my transition. Bigger than my first time out dressed or taking hormones or anything. This was my big thing to overcome, by far. He didn't disown me, but by no means are things "ok". A lot of work and effort is going to have to go into our relationship, on both sides. Hopefully he is willing to put in the effort on his end. I know my mom will be there to urge him in the right direction. But at least I have finally started down this road I have been unwilling to walk for so long.

<3 Liv

Congratulations! I came out to my father in a restaurant. He's 84, a still practicing corporate lawyer, and he just smiled and said "o.K." I then asked if he understood what I was saying, to which he answered, "Yes, the next time we share a hotel room you'll have a pussy." I looked at him with tears in my eyes and asked, "How's your food?" He smiled. I was lucky with him. My 30 year old daughter Katy, the NBC news reporter, has been mean, caustic, and hasn't said a word to me in 5 months. She was fine with transgender people until it "happened" to her father. NIMBY. My x hasn't been much better. My 26 year-old son, whose also transgender, but still figuring it out is better. He hasn't seen me in 6 months because he's scared. We talk, but it's awkward. All I can do is tell him how happy I am and how well my friends have treated me. Too bad the two most important women in his life are so transphobic.

Olivia, hang in there. In the end, he loves you and will sort it out with your mother's help. Especially if you keep your dignity, and sense of humor. Best of luck and love!
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lovelessheart

maybe im blind. but all of it is not so easy. but..its also teaches you a lot about life.
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Terri

Zoey -- you are inspirational -- being in the public eye yourself must have made dealing with all of this soooo much harder.  I'm certain your daughter's very public profile doesn't help to make this any easier for her either.  Maybe not so much NIMBY but more like NIMFY for her.  Time will tell.  Thanks to you and to all who help me to see there is some light.  Sharing your struggles and how you deal with them helps me be a bit braver each and every day.
I pretended to be the person I wanted to be until finally I became that person.  Or he became me.  Cary Grant
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pebbles

My mother had the same response (Although she then stopped talking to me for a year), While everyone is different try not to take it too hard my mum did eventually come around and uses my actual name now, Took her several years but just give them some time to get used to the idea. The working with your father angle certainly adds an extra layer of complexity which dose make it tricky. (Sometimes distance is what they need to help them realize who you are in there own way noticing the "You" Shaped hole in there lives regardless of your gender)
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