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Started by Brandon, September 08, 2013, 03:47:59 PM

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Brandon

Quote from: aleon515 on September 09, 2013, 06:48:30 PM
Well there are amazing women's team and players. It wouldn't be a waste of your skills-- but if you are not a girl, i totally see why you wouldn't want to play with girls on an all girls team. Are you interested in any coed sports, it might be a way to participate as a guy. I agree re: American football. An insanely dangerous sport that's probably bad for your brain. The "little" knocks to the head that coaches write off cause brain damage. I think they should throw away the heavy padding, but it's way way off topic.

I am more the nerd type who likes more individual sports. I did karate when I was younger but didn't really like sparring more the katas. I think that Jack has understanding of what this might take.

You don't seem one who wants to take advise from older people so I'm not going to give it. It might be better if you did.

--Jay


No its just Im tired of being called homophobe and sexist, Im not I'm far from that I'm nicer than you think, And yes that's why I don't want to play with girls because I'm not one, And yea I know football is dangerous but I do still like it
keep working hard and you can get anything you want.    -Aaliyah
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Brandon

Quote from: LearnedHand on September 09, 2013, 06:52:52 PM
While theres disagreements and obvious misunderstandings here, I don't think calling people sexist or homophobes is the best solution.

I understand what Brandon is saying, and I think he's just staying it wrong,by level, I think he means "style".

We can discuss things without ganging up on members, especially those we know are younger, who came here to seek support, advice, and understanding.

ThankYou!
keep working hard and you can get anything you want.    -Aaliyah
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Brandon

Quote from: androidnick on September 09, 2013, 06:50:05 PM
Lol I'm not sexist. I'm just saying if you put the best male basketball player against the best female one the male will of course win. That is what you are getting at correct? Guess what? At my university basketball is more popular than football and the women's basketball team is WAY better than the men's. Seriously dude. THINK before you speak.

Really bro?
keep working hard and you can get anything you want.    -Aaliyah
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Brandon

Quote from: LearnedHand on September 09, 2013, 06:52:52 PM
While theres disagreements and obvious misunderstandings here, I don't think calling people sexist or homophobes is the best solution.

I understand what Brandon is saying, and I think he's just staying it wrong,by level, I think he means "style".

We can discuss things without ganging up on members, especially those we know are younger, who came here to seek support, advice, and understanding.


That's what I meant theirs a difference between how men an women play, My style is more of a guys style I watch Ive been to the girls practices it was alot different compared to guys my coach pratically begged me to play my sophmore year to play because they needed me, But all them girls did was bad mouth me that's another reason Im not helping them out
keep working hard and you can get anything you want.    -Aaliyah
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Jamie D

#24
We are not going to attack one another.  This issue of male-identified FAAB's playing on an equal level with cismales is an important one.

It is about breaking down barriers.  I am old enough to remember when SEC and SWC football teams were all white, and would not schedule games against integrated teams in the North and the Far West.

We should be encouraging, rather than discouraging, our FtM members to do their best and to open doors for those who follow.
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Jamie D

Quote from: chuck on September 09, 2013, 03:18:20 PM
If youre going to play football you better beef up real quick brother. You will get DEMOLISHED.

Do you know Brandon's height, weight, strength?   You are being presumptuous.

Quote from: LilDevilOfPrada on September 09, 2013, 04:13:31 PM
LOLs dude you have such a closed minded way of think its shocking... Dude its school you cant do anyhting about it. Stop complainign that omg girl are inferior to me blah blah jsut dont play the sport solved. Wanna play a "mans" sport go to your local park. I get you need to vent but dude you best learn to start actually think before typing your posts are becoming rather how do I say this hmmm I know simple minded.

Hate me for this but someone had to give you a second warning :D

Not your place.  Give Brandon the opportunity to show what he has on the court, the field, the pitch, or the diamond.  All he wants is the opportunity to try out.  Is there a problem?

Quote from: Jack_M on September 09, 2013, 06:42:31 PM
Hates and discriminates gays: not a homophobe.

Thinks he's too good to play with girls: not sexist.

Dude! I mean come on! How old are you?

I'm out. You got issues you really need to discuss with a professional, bro!

You chose wisely.

I believe you mis-read Brandon's sarcasm.

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aleon515

Quote from: Jamie D on September 09, 2013, 07:16:10 PM
Do you know Brandon's height, weight, strength?   You are being presumptuous.

Not your place.  Give Brandon the opportunity to show what he has on the court, the field, the pitch, or the diamond.  All he wants is the opportunity to try out.  Is there a problem?


Jamie, I would praise to the hilt any young member who would take on an established group for his right to play.  A very young guy here did this.He took on a soccer committee of some kind at a young 9-10 years old and won!  But ragging on women's playing is not really the way to do this. It isn't the point anyway. I think I made a point to say that he has the right to play with boys, because he is a boy, not because he doesn't like girl's teams. It is a crucial difference. I see the style difference he is talking about. But I think even that's moot. Boys should get to play with boys.

Besides this complaining rarely gets you anywhere in life.


--Jay
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Brandon

I never said women cannot play basketball you misread what I said and took it that way, But its not
keep working hard and you can get anything you want.    -Aaliyah
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Keaira

Well, I can't say you don't have the Male inferiority complex down pat, that's for sure. Alright Shaq, since you're itching to play with the guys, ask your coach to try out. If he doesn't want to give you a chance, Ask the team if they would let you join in on an after school game to prove you're worth the chance. Don't expect them to go easy on you. Keep trying until you get the chance to put your money where your mouth is, so to speak. You'll also see how open minded they are and whether it's  right for you. Seeing and doing are two different things. You'll either be given a chance or you'll have to fight for it.

You've got spirit, I'll give you that, but you certainly need to choose your words more carefully.  Insinuating that Women aren't competitive is fighting talk, especially around here. Many of us did the things you want to do before we transitioned and still do. Some of us were high school captains of Football, Soccer, Baseball, Basketball, etc. Some of us raced cars. I myself enjoy time on the shooting range and I'm pretty decent with a rifle and handgun. When I was in Air Force Basic, I was the top marksman of my flight. The RAF Regiment wanted me to transfer over to train as a sniper. I turned them down because of the short life expectancy and less pay I would get in my chosen career path. And I don't even know what the guys have done here.
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chuck

Quote from: Brandon on September 09, 2013, 04:02:03 PM


See thats what I mean right here and is another reason I haven't tried out, Because of comments like that

So facts make you not try out for a sport where you will tackled by guys probably twice your weight? Yes yes, I am going out a ridiculous and silly limb and ASSUMING the picture in your profile is you. Sounds like I saved you some broken bones. Also, I was giving you some advice, and I mean it. If you want to play any sport you shuld be very aware of your physical condition. In an agressive contact sport, you should take stock of what youre abilities and physical limitations are.  Maybe you should consider heading someone's advice who just might know a bit more about the subject than you do. Not entirely sure why you would make a post asking for advice and then become defensive when you recieve it.

Also, if my suggestion that you bulk up makes you give up on an ambition that easily, you have far far more serious things to worry about than which sport to play.

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chuck

Quote from: Jamie D on September 09, 2013, 07:16:10 PM
Do you know Brandon's height, weight, strength?   You are being presumptuous.


From his own words, he gets mistaken for a 12 year old boy, is short and doesn't have a male body. Yes, I assume that he might need to evaluate his physical composition before playing sports with dudes that probably get mistaked for 20 year olds. So yes, I am being pressumptuous, based on his own posts, comments and pictures.

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Taka

easiest way to get started is to research your possibilities. all of them.
find out what teams are available, whether they're boys/girls/coed, what the coach thinks about you joining, if there is anything outside school, if the teams are competitive enough. there's so much you don't seem to have investigated quite yet.

we'll be here to listen to your complaints. just try to choose your words carefully (no bashing women in any way would be one, don't compare them to men at all if you find it difficult). but it's easier to help you with something if you first tell us what you have to choose between. maybe the only choice you have will be to join the girls basketball team, do you give up then? or is it better to join, compete, and then come here once in a while to complain about how annoying this and that is, while still doing you very best to succeed?

there were only five guys in my high school class, and nearly twenty girls. that didn't stop the guys from being competitive and have fun (though only two of them had any physical or mental advantage). i think their presence also made many of the girls more competitive. you won't know how anything will turn out before you've tried.
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Jamie D

The topic has been locked by an administrator because of its generally nasty tone.

Too bad, it could have been a good discussion, without the personal attacks.

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