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Why i can never understand american high school films

Started by Pica Pica, June 20, 2007, 10:51:11 AM

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tinkerbell

I didn't attend highschool in the US.  Am I glad? of course!  ;D I see your point Pica :)

tink :icon_chick:
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Doc

Quote from: Pica Pica on June 22, 2007, 12:03:56 PM
Why put nick cage near anything?

I agree. Cage is fairly dreadful, though I can think of one reason to put him in a film -- in order to demonstrate how what meagre acting ability he possesses could be, Samson-like, utterly destroyed by shaving off his eyebrow.

To further badmouth stars, Sean Connery is actually a very bad actor. And shortly before the filming of Braveheart I replaced Mel Gibson with a golden retriever, and nobody noticed.

The greatest American actor is Andre Brauer, who is practically unheard of. No doubt this is racial bigotry, as Brauer is black but not especially large or intimidating, nor disarmingly caramel-delight coloured and cute.

But everyone enjoys Johnny Depp (Ahh, if only he had a vagina, like Sean Bean) and is justified in doing so. Recently I watched Ed Wood and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory in the same week. This caused me to dream that Depp showed up at the vet clinic where I work. I informed him that his dog was a hermaphrodite. He was at first pleased about that, and then remarked that it was a bit sad, as it meant that his dog could never be a ->-bleeped-<-.
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RebeccaFog

Quote from: Tink on June 22, 2007, 09:44:02 PM
I didn't attend highschool in the US.  Am I glad? of course!  ;D I see your point Pica :)

tink :icon_chick:

You are one lucky woman, Tink.   Your mind has not been wasted.
Quote from: Doc on June 22, 2007, 09:51:56 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on June 22, 2007, 12:03:56 PM
Why put nick cage near anything?

I agree. Cage is fairly dreadful, though I can think of one reason to put him in a film -- in order to demonstrate how what meagre acting ability he possesses could be, Samson-like, utterly destroyed by shaving off his eyebrow.

To further badmouth stars, Sean Connery is actually a very bad actor. And shortly before the filming of Braveheart I replaced Mel Gibson with a golden retriever, and nobody noticed.

The greatest American actor is Andre Brauer, who is practically unheard of. No doubt this is racial bigotry, as Brauer is black but not especially large or intimidating, nor disarmingly caramel-delight coloured and cute.

But everyone enjoys Johnny Depp (Ahh, if only he had a vagina, like Sean Bean) and is justified in doing so. Recently I watched Ed Wood and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory in the same week. This caused me to dream that Depp showed up at the vet clinic where I work. I informed him that his dog was a hermaphrodite. He was at first pleased about that, and then remarked that it was a bit sad, as it meant that his dog could never be a ->-bleeped-<-.

   I agree. I only see Andre Brauer in anything by accident. CCH Pounder used to be nearly invisible too. I think the Shield has brought her out into the public eye a little now. She's been my hero since the first Tales From the Crypt Movie.

   Johnny Depp, talented & dreamy too.

   Nick Cage - charismatic but totally distracts from the actual movie he's in when there is one.
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Shana A

QuoteIf anyone has any American Language books that somehow escaped our bonfires, please send one to England.

I think we could send over some Vonnegut, maybe a little Kerouac too.

zythyra
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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Pica Pica

A bitty post this...

Vonnegut is my favourite, I got all of them. Not keen on Kerouac, find that he feels that he is setting the agenda too much. Vonnegut just talks out and hopes he is.

Doc, I've been trying to work out who your avitar is for ages, it's aptain kidd aint it?

Nick cage instantly negates any film he's in - like putting a black hole in - emotionless or what?

And I can't speak english either. I speak Crawley, a nightmare mix of cockney and sussex farmer.

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Doc

Quote from: Pica Pica on June 23, 2007, 06:30:53 AM
Doc, I've been trying to work out who your avitar is for ages, it's aptain kidd aint it?

Nope. It's 'Captain Keitt,' a fictional (or so I presume) character from Howard Pyle's Book of Pirates. He's in the story The Ruby of Kishmoor, in an incidental fashion, having stolen a giant ruby and fathered a daughter before the story starts. Why Pyle persistantly chose to illustrate things that didn't quite happen in the stories he was illustrating is a mystery to me, especially in the case of stories that Pyle himself wrote, but it's a great painting, eh? Though I often feel a desire to add some small shadowing near his boots so he stops looking like he's floating two inches above the deck.
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Pica Pica

no, it's keitt also known as kidd, he existed. sailed on the adventure galley
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Doc

Naw, not historical William Kidd and the Adventure Galley and Adventure Prize, former privateer and possibly never actually leaving that legal status, but fictional Robinson Keitt of the Good Fortune, former merchant and definate pirate.

http://www.online-literature.com/howard-pyle/ruby-of-kishmoor/1/

But in Howard Pyle's paintings of Kidd, Kidd does look remarkably like the man in the painting of Keitt, and the gingerbread-work of the ship in the background "Captain Kidd Aboard the Adventure Galley,' looks the same as the one in 'Captain Keitt.' Neither character looks like actual from-life portraits of Kidd, though.
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Thundra

QuoteBut i detest remakes and re-imaginings - i mean, the wicker man is great - why ruin it by remaking it and putting nick cage near it. Why put nick cage near anything?

QuoteNick Cage - charismatic but totally distracts from the actual movie he's in when there is one.

He can be a good to great character actor, ala Moonstruck, Leaving Las Vegas, and Adaption, which blew me away. But for most of his career, he has seen fit to take on these dreary, lifeless roles like Ghost Rider (pun intended) to pump up his bankroll. But obviously, some women find him sexy and alluring in some way. I've no clue as to why? And why the hell did Patricia Arquette marry him? She is like an incredible actress -- gifted even. Well, until she did that t.v. show.  ::sigh::

Answer to Pica Pica's question about amerikan h.s. films.  Simply put, amerikans are stupid cows.
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RebeccaFog

Quote from: Thundra on June 24, 2007, 12:38:45 AM

Answer to Pica Pica's question about amerikan h.s. films.  Simply put, amerikans are stupid cows.

.....  and, a little ugly on the side.
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Pica Pica

dumb all over eh?


Kidd looks a bit like samuel johnson in real life don't he?
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Doc

Quote from: Pica Pica on June 24, 2007, 11:39:28 AM
dumb all over eh?

Kidd looks a bit like samuel johnson in real life don't he?

Naw, nothing dumb about mistaking one character in a painting from another character who looks like an older meaner version of the first.  It's very likely you saw both images as a child, they are classic.

Nothing dumb about not knowing all the silly useless amusing things that I know, either.

Yeah, Kidd looks remarkably like Johnson in from-life portraits.

You will amuse (but not impress) people with your knowledge if you inform them that the song ("My name is Captain Kidd and God's laws I did forbid and most wickedly I did, as I sailed...") is incorrect in giving the impression that 'the gunner' and William Moore were two different people. Kidd was hanged not for piracy but for killing Moore by hitting him in the head with a bucket during an argument concerning wether or not to attack a certain ship. Kidd was against it. Some historians speculate that this chain of events occurred not because Kidd was really all that much of a brute, but because he was a caffeine addict and Moore was giving him aggro before he'd had his coffee. And, also amusingly, it is thought that Kidd was not hanged for piracy but for this murder (something that normally would have been let slide, as ship's captains were actually permitted to judge and execute foremast jacks if they felt like it) because his acts of 'piracy' were psuedo-legal hired jobs wherein various governers and the like asked him to attack not enemies of the state, but their own competitors in private trade. It's said that Kidd said that he'd kept scrupulous records of these exchanges and hidden them. Probably he didn't, but people believed him, so they had to bring him to court on an unrelated sort of charge so he wouldn't be allowed to bring it up and incriminate the rich and powerful.

History is fun.
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RebeccaFog

Quote from: Doc on June 24, 2007, 01:42:17 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on June 24, 2007, 11:39:28 AM
dumb all over eh?

Kidd looks a bit like samuel johnson in real life don't he?

Naw, nothing dumb about mistaking one character in a painting from another character who looks like an older meaner version of the first.  It's very likely you saw both images as a child, they are classic.

Nothing dumb about not knowing all the silly useless amusing things that I know, either.


   I'm sorry, Doc, but we need to bust you on your lack of true culture here. "Dumb all over" is in reference to my earlier response of ".... and a little ugly on the side". They come from a Frank Zappa song.

   
regretfully,

Rebecca
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Doc

Ahh. That sort of thing happens to me all the time. I listen to the wrong music, mostly. For years I believed that Iggy Pop was a breakfast cereal.
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Pica Pica

Girl I wanna be your nutritious breakfast meal... fantastic...

My favourite pirate fact IS

Blackbeard's real name is not Edward Teach but Edward Drummond, Teach was another pseudonym.
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RebeccaFog


Isn't Edward Drummond that rich guy who took in those 2 ghetto kids on 'different strokes'?
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Doc

Quote from: Pica Pica on June 24, 2007, 02:32:07 PM
Blackbeard's real name is not Edward Teach but Edward Drummond, Teach was another pseudonym.

I didn't know that one. :)

Rumour has it that Blackbeard's skull was plated in silver and kept around as a nifty ornament, and is now in the possession of the 'Skull and Bones' society, where over-priveledged brats of George W. Bush's ilk drink beer out of it. If this should prove to be true, I feel it is nigh imperative that we steal the skull and set it on fire. Ned would have wanted it that way.

The skull of Charles Gibb, the worst pirate ever, was not plated in silver but it was on display in a museum for quite some time. People kept saying that it wasn't a very good skull.
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Pica Pica

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Pica Pica

Quote from: Doc on June 24, 2007, 02:38:15 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on June 24, 2007, 02:32:07 PM
Blackbeard's real name is not Edward Teach but Edward Drummond, Teach was another pseudonym.

I didn't know that one. :)

Rumour has it that Blackbeard's skull was plated in silver and kept around as a nifty ornament, and is now in the possession of the 'Skull and Bones' society, where over-priveledged brats of George W. Bush's ilk drink beer out of it. If this should prove to be true, I feel it is nigh imperative that we steal the skull and set it on fire. Ned would have wanted it that way.

The skull of Charles Gibb, the worst pirate ever, was not plated in silver but it was on display in a museum for quite some time. People kept saying that it wasn't a very good skull.

If that is true we should bury it at sea and hope it don't swim in circles. Another bad pirate is John Gow, pressed to death for stealing haddock. He was pressed so the state wouldn't confiscate the land, it went to his cousin.
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