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the worst lesson in biology

Started by YBtheOutlaw, September 21, 2013, 03:54:54 PM

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YBtheOutlaw

so we started the lesson 'reproduction' in biology, starting from male reproductive system.
in biology i usually relate what the teacher says to the actual parts of my body, like, say we're learning about the stomach, i would imagine its contours inside the body and imagine cutting it open when she teaches the inner parts. it helps memorizing, so i do it so often that it comes naturally to me now without having to think about doing so.
well, the problem is, when she started with the structure of testes i was imaging the contours of testes where they are supposed to be, then it suddenly occured to me that i don't really have them.
a wave of dysphoric feelings hit me and i was very uneasy throughout the lesson. i wanted to scream out 'im supposed to have those parts on me!' i wanted to unzip my pants to make sure they really were missing. i wanted to feel them between my legs so badly! aargh! i am a man!
that was just the beginning and i'm sure i'm gonna face the worst states of dysphoria during this lesson
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Xhianil

I'd suggest finding a way to get out of it, i understand your feelings though, when i took health before i realized i wanted to be female i could barely drag myself outa bed.
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King Malachite

I know how you feel man.  I remember when I was taking sex ed. I was learning about how the penis feels with blood and becomes erect when a boy is aroused and I'm just sitting there thinking to my self "where's my penis so I can get an erection?" and I so longed to have a wet dream and to hear my voice crack to know I'm going through puberty and to want to have sperm so when it comes out I could say "hahahhaha this is my sperm, that can get a woman pregnant."  I hated learning about the female body and periods and stuff.  In our sex ed class, the boys and girls were seperated and I felt like I should have been in there with the boys with my penis and scrotum hanging on me.  Ironically enough I made 100 on every test in that class except for one test, and that test was on the female body parts inside (which I made a 97 on).  I thougt why does the female body have to be so complicated and even worse why do I have to have this complicated female body?  And when it came to having protection and teaching about condoms, I would get so upset because I couldn't use a male condom like how it should be used. 

It's horrible stuff man.  Just try to get through it as best you can.  It will pass.  When you try to get through the dysphoria, biology is actually fun stuff and was my favorite class. 
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Brandon

I understand completely I get so dysphoric I had a health class when I was a freshman, I was so upset learning about the male reproductive system, They made us even go out in the hall one day and they ended up seperating the boys and the girls because we were learning how to detect cancer through the breast and testicles, It hurts you could get out of the class, My counselour told me that if I need to switch out than do it though,  had biology my sophmore year but we didn't get that far thank God because I would have had a hard time
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Arch

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I was in one of those one-week sex ed classes in...must have been seventh grade. They showed us all sorts of disturbing stuff--the usual dry educational films, a movie about a GYN exam (pretty explicit, and I did NOT need that level of detail), and, finally, a woman giving birth. I was so freaked out by the birthing movie that I got dizzy and started to pass out--I had fainted before, so I knew the signs. Fortunately, we were all seated (otherwise, I would have just keeled over). But at a certain point, I knew that I had to get away. I raised my hand, the sex ed teacher came over, and I told her I could not handle the film. She let me leave the room.

The feeling I had--of the absolute wrongness of it all, the horrible realization that I would be expected to do what that woman in the movie was doing--that was just too much to bear. No, no, no.

I am glad that the class was only five days.
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Natkat

I guess it almost tradition that sexual education is horrible for LGBT people.
I also thought mine where kinda bad even when it diffently could had been much worse. I somehow manneged to get out of the boy/girl body part by using the excuse that "I where too shy to hear about sex"  :angel: and then just look up anything I wanted to know on the internet insteed. I where somehow more foward than most of my classmates so it didnt really matter + my school where kinda ->-bleeped-<- up. we had about the sexual laws like 3 times because aperently there had been alot of rapist at the school. (good to know)
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what bothers me is usunally it not very inclusive on LGBT people even when its mentioned it only mentioned very few times like a sidenote.
I remember we had 1 lesbian movie for the 5-6 straight film we saw. and people thought it was disgusting with 2 girls together.

then we got a folder about sexual stuff and there where 1 page in the book/folder about being gay/lesbian. just mention it exist that "some people happent to be gay, bla bla" I try going to the school libary asked if they had anything about homosexuals, and they had 1 page in 1 book. anything including transgender where not mentioned at all.






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Doctorwho?

OK I'm female but for what it's worth I felt exactly the same this week in the dissection room, when I found myself looking at and feeling a uterus and ovarian ducts.

I don't have any functional reproductive female parts because in utero I was male enough that my proto uterus never developed, (all there is left is a tiny patch of "anomalous" internal tissue.) Meanwhile my male parts, such as testes, were removed as part of the corrective direction that I chose for my PAIS condition. Obviously I don't have any female gametes either... so I guess medically I'm kind of sexless.

That's ok, over the last 30 or so years since I was treated I've come to own that space. I've lived a great life, and indeed being Intersex has blessed me with a larger frame size and physique than I would have had as a fully natal female - I like the fact that I am reasonably tall and have most of the strength of a man, but just occasionally something like this will get under one's skin - so I do completely sympathise.

It is horrible for you to feel so near and yet so far...
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Brandon

Quote from: Natkat on September 22, 2013, 10:01:08 AM
I guess it almost tradition that sexual education is horrible for LGBT people.
I also thought mine where kinda bad even when it diffently could had been much worse. I somehow manneged to get out of the boy/girl body part by using the excuse that "I where too shy to hear about sex"  :angel: and then just look up anything I wanted to know on the internet insteed. I where somehow more foward than most of my classmates so it didnt really matter + my school where kinda ->-bleeped-<- up. we had about the sexual laws like 3 times because aperently there had been alot of rapist at the school. (good to know)
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what bothers me is usunally it not very inclusive on LGBT people even when its mentioned it only mentioned very few times like a sidenote.
I remember we had 1 lesbian movie for the 5-6 straight film we saw. and people thought it was disgusting with 2 girls together.

then we got a folder about sexual stuff and there where 1 page in the book/folder about being gay/lesbian. just mention it exist that "some people happent to be gay, bla bla" I try going to the school libary asked if they had anything about homosexuals, and they had 1 page in 1 book. anything including transgender where not mentioned at all.


I agree that its hard for lgb to but I think it's more so for transgender/transsexual people because of the dysphoria that comes along with, I don't think they can teach about homosexuals in sex ed because not everyone agrees with it, They have never talked about lesbians and gays through all the sex ed classes I've had
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Natkat

Quote from: Brandon on September 22, 2013, 11:05:12 AM

I agree that its hard for lgb to but I think it's more so for transgender/transsexual people because of the dysphoria that comes along with, I don't think they can teach about homosexuals in sex ed because not everyone agrees with it, They have never talked about lesbians and gays through all the sex ed classes I've had
School is filled with stuff not everyone agrees on.

I didn't agree on religion manly being for old people,
or that boys manly would play with boytoy and girls manly with girltoy,
and I dont think everyone can agree on transgenders either, but it still important to get the wide image.

most schools have more than 100 people it would seams imposible getting topics everyone agree on, even when they try to "keep it neutral it not really imposible I belive.

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Adam (birkin)

Oh man. Sex ed was the worst. That was when it really hit me, I think. I also had a video shown where they explained what happened to the male organ during sex, and I was like "...I DON'T HAVE THAT." I also expected my voice to change and such, only to learn that it wouldn't. I cried every night for a week or so. Then I went into denial. I hadn't had a period yet, or grown breasts, so I told myself "they're not going to come, my vagina is just a lie, it'll just never happen and everyone will realize I'm a guy and I will become one." One by one that was taken away too. As my chest grew I wore a tight sports bra and told myself that it was a protective vest lol. And when I got my period, I went into a really bad depression. I sort of "accepted" that I was going to grow into a female (didn't know about transition) and tried to make the most of it. Failed epicly, over and over. I couldn't make myself be happy with that body.
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Jack_M

Well the way I see it, neither sex ed nor biology is really the place for talking about transgender issues anyway.  Sex ed is about sex and perhaps orientation and that has nothing to do with being transgender.  And biology is about...well....biology.  And they tend to refer to genitalia as male and female as opposed to men and women anyway (although teachers may mess up there - books tend to be more specific about this).

I think there should be acknowledgement of trans issues but I think it should be something specific as in visiting organisations or an assembly/separate class.  It just doesn't really fit into any specific curriculum based class.  To lump it in with sex ed wouldn't even feel right to me.  Sex ed in general still applies to us in terms of sexual health and perhaps even sex orientation (if you're not in some backwards state/country that thinks that telling children gay people exist makes them gay...because that's how it works, of course *face palm*).

I think there's definitely room to evaluate gender norms and fight the binary, and at least make people aware of trans issues and that it's perfectly normal to be trans.  In my school we had two classes, PSD (Personal and Social Development) and R.E. (Religious Education) and those are the classes where we'd discuss such issues.  Our R.E. class was more about learning about other religions and atheism and being free to state opinions, even if they went against the Roman Catholic faith.  And talking about current or big issues like euthanasia, abortion, the death penalty, etc.  My school was Roman Catholic but in the UK, state schools can be specific religion schools but they're not allowed to require that students be of that faith; which is good when you're an atheist!  Haha!

I think it belongs where it's not curriculum learning, but it's more an open, respectable discussion where kids can state their opinions within reason.  Sort of like here where generalisations can't be made but I statements, without offense caused, would be used.  Like there would be set issues and the teacher would state the issue and have information on it and the kids could ask questions.

As for biology classes, the best way to handle them is realise that it isn't talking about men and women; it's talking about male and female.  The way I view it is that we're men who were born female.  We weren't born girls, just born females.  I look at that and define that as female = my anatomy and chemical structure, it doesn't equate to gender.  Gender comes from my brain.  There's a huge difference when you view it like that.  It's not great to be reminded that you don't have a penis, yeah, but at the same time, you take a shower and you're reminded.  You get dressed and you're reminded.  You reach into your pockets and you're reminded.  You go to the bathroom and you're reminded.  This is just one more reminder, and it's all information you do need to know about to learn about safe sex, reproduction (important in biology course) as well as realise all the differences and understand what's possible and attainable for yourself in the future if you did decide this was something you wanted to change.

As for getting out of class, it's not going to be possible in a biology class.  You can get our of sex ed but in a biology class, you can get tested on this stuff in the exams.  There can be a picture and you have to label it, or you have to describe the stages of reproduction.  So I would personally suggest removing men/women from your mind and assigning it to just male/female.  It may help.
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King Malachite

Quote from: caleb. on September 22, 2013, 06:04:14 PM
I told myself "they're not going to come, my vagina is just a lie,

Oh man that's a great line.  I want to wear a tie dye shirt with some shades while laying down and just saying "the vagina is just a lie man.  It doesn't exist".
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