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Transgender is a Gift

Started by DrBobbi, September 23, 2013, 12:55:09 PM

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eli77

I am not just trans. Obvious, right? But I think sometimes we need to be reminded of this thing.

I don't really see the point I guess of pulling out "trans" from the muddle of my person and deciding whether I want to surgically excise it or not. Because that isn't how it works. I haven't the faintest idea who or what I'd be if I wasn't born as I am. All the choices, all the best and worst moments of my life would be revoked instantly. The time that I swallowed a few dozen Codeine pills hoping never to wake up, and the time my girlfriend first told me she loved me. I am a composite... and I wouldn't want to risk altering the mix by ditching an ingredient. I wouldn't want to eat a spoonful of salt, but it goes well in a batch of muffins.

A year ago, ask me if I hated being trans and I'd have said yes without a second thought. It's odd that... the way being post-transition has slowly reshaped my perspective. As it starts to just... hurt less all the time. I'm no longer driven by the overriding concern of "OH MY GOD MAKE THE PAIN STOP." There are certainly still experiences, hell, years of my life that I wish I could just forget, erase, redact... but I'm working on that. On learning to accept that I am all one being, made up of all these things. And that what makes me such a damn awesome person includes even some of my most difficult bits.

Is being trans a gift? Meh. But life is a gift. And being trans is part of my life.
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Devlyn

Jennygirl, beautiful post, as are many of the others.

DrZoey, thanks for the thread to allow us to share what we find happiness in. Being transgender is a gift to me that has truly changed how I see life, and see others.

Hugs, Devlyn

And a pox on those who felt completely justified in coming to someone's "happy" thread to ->-bleeped-<- under the Christmas tree.
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Kate G

Quote from: Jennygirl on September 27, 2013, 04:54:11 PM
I think it might have been said before... but I am very thankful for growing up with male privilege and then being able to switch societal roles later on- not necessarily having to leave any part of my past behind.

Yes, there are many difficulties we encounter being trans. But ultimately, we have the chance to see the world from all sides. It makes us really special in a way that 99% of the population cannot even begin to experience firsthand.

I guess what I'm getting at is- looks aren't everything. It seems to me that most trans people who decide to transition (myself included) spend the initial stages of transition worrying so much about the visual aspect- and rightfully so, I think. But the REAL kicker comes later on when you stop worrying about that and your attention turns inward. You realize that you're still completely yourself, yet you are able to express everything from a different role which (if you allow it to) gives you the chance to be a much more diverse and mentally rich human being.

It can be a gift, but it doesn't come without hard work in the beginning. After all, nothing in life is free.



Can you define Male Privilege and give examples?  I think Male Privilege means different things to different people, what does it mean to you?  To me being male came with no privilege.  I was never comfortable being male and I was never able to form meaningful relationships with others as a male. I was never male.  Male was something I tried to be without any success. As a "male" no matter where I went I felt as if I didn't belong there.  As a woman wherever I go I have a sense of belonging.  When you speak of being male you sound as if you are referring to something you enjoyed and were successful with and you seem to suggest that you brought that success with you into transition.  Perhaps Dr. Zoey feels similarly?

Because I was born with the wrong body for my brain I was never able to be successful in anything, my entire life suffered.  I was never able to have a career, a marriage, a family.  My relationship with "god" suffered, I suffered.  When I look back on my life before transition it is looking back on a book full of empty pages.

My whole life suffered because I was born with the wrong genitals and they ruined my life.  Either that or my whole life suffered because I was born with the wrong brain.  Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Can you describe your male privilege and explain what you enjoyed about it?

"To get something you never had, you have to do something you never did." -Unknown
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Jennygirl

Quote from: Kate G on September 27, 2013, 05:18:40 PM
Can you describe your male privilege and explain what you enjoyed about it?

Sure, I am happy to elaborate.

As a male I did just fine. My whole life I've always been into creative "guy" things, and it spurred me on into some very technical specialties that would have most likely received less attention and help if I had been socialized as a girl. Things like programming, fabrication (I was super into techic legos as a kid), and robots/electronics. I know you definitely do see girls doing these things, but it is very uncommon.

My dream job from grade 7 was to be a freelance motion graphics designer/animator in California, and that's exactly what I'm doing now- among other things like designing and fabricating large scale soundsystems and remodelling my house. The experiences I gained absolutely slingshotted me into being unique in more than one field regardless of gender, but I might not have had those learning experiences if I hadn't been living as a male... especially when it comes to my day job. I've worked at most of the top motion graphics studios in LA and I've never once met a girl that even touches 3D animation.

I guess what I mean by male privilege is that I was fully supported and helped by guys while learning these things, instead of assumed to be "just a girl trying to do a man's job". Yuck, I hate that verbiage. Sadly to say though, male privilege gives access to a whole slew of advantages.

Though I knew I was VERY different from my guy friends, I was still happy living as a male because I still felt like I was making progress in life. With all of that progress built up behind me and the benefits I've reaped from it, there is no way I would go back and transition sooner or even be born a cis female. I am way too happy now to ever consider it.

Also, thanks for asking :) Hadn't really thought about it in a while
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Sephirah

I've spent a long time thinking about this subject. Maybe more than I normally would do. And have kept an eye on the sentiments expressed in the thread. My own thoughts on it are... well, hard to express adequately. Nevertheless:

Firstly, I don't wish to comment on what impact being transgendered has had on my life directly. I consider that largely a matter of perspective and I could equally express positivity or negativity depending on my mood and how I view a certain thing at any given time. What I would like to talk about is what effect being transgendered has had indirectly on my life. And I think for the most part that has come about through meeting other people dealing with the same issues on a day-to-day basis.

When I first came out to myself, I felt lost. Bewildered. Isolated. But it wasn't the fact of coming out which did it. It was putting a name to feelings I'd had for most of my life. It was finally nailing one of the major causes of everything which had confused and saddened me up to that point.

Maybe that in itself was not a gift, but it did lead to one. It led to me coming here. It led to me meeting people who inspired me, and who continue to do so. It led to me seeing another side to life. People who have tremendous determination, tenacity, strength of character... and at the same time a compassion and solidarity to be there for each other no matter what life throws at them.

Yes, life has had its hardships, and will no doubt continue to do so. But through wanting to learn about myself, and move forward in whatever way I can, it has led to me discovering more about myself than gender. More about myself than what I am. It has led to me discovering who I am. And that, I consider a gift.

Being transgendered has indirectly led to me having an appreciation for the hardships that can be, and are endured on a daily basis. It has led to me getting a glimpse of something deeper and more meaningful than the watercooler gossip that many people in my life seem content with. It has led me to have the privilege of being able to guide people, to listen to people and offer what comfort I can to others in need. And that, to me, is a gift. To find out some of the things I am able to do and utilise those skills in a way that benefit other people.

I don't know if I would have found all this had the chain of events been set in motion which led to this point. But it did, and here I am. In some ways things are harder now, yes. But in some ways I have more of a base with which to combat these things.

For me, being transgendered is what it is. It's something to be integrated as one strand of a life lived. What I do consider a gift are the myriad other interwoven strands that have been discovered as a byproduct of that. The connections formed. Lessons learned. Interactions and emotional growth which has come about through it.

I guess what I'm trying to say, in a round about way, is that whether being transgendered is a gift or not... learning that I can be so much more than that definitely is a gift. One which I don't often appreciate as much as I should. And that walking a hard road may be tough, but finding people who share your journey and are willing to pick you up when you fall, to say "It's okay, I'm here for you.". That is a gift.

You folks are a gift. Whether you know it or not. And not because of being transgendered or not. Not because of what you are, but because of who you are.

Anyhow, I've rambled enough. Make of that what you will. :)
Natura nihil frustra facit.

"You yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love and affection." ~ Buddha.

If you're dealing with self esteem issues, maybe click here. There may be something you find useful. :)
Above all... remember: you are beautiful, you are valuable, and you have a shining spark of magnificence within you. Don't let anyone take that from you. Embrace who you are. <3
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Jenny07

Transgender is a gift?

Perhaps, it is an amazing journey of self discovery as I finally come to terms with it as it has caused so much pain all my life.
It's not as scary as I though opening up to therapists, still scary enough though.
It's ruined relationships, caused social anxiety and stopped me doing so many 'normal' things people take for granted.
It's not something I choose to do like so many others here it is a necessity as I can no longer be the old me.


Sorry but if it's a gift, I will be re-gifting it.
So long and thanks for all the fish
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Violet Bloom

Quote from: Jennygirl on September 27, 2013, 06:07:23 PM
Sure, I am happy to elaborate.

As a male I did just fine. My whole life I've always been into creative "guy" things, and it spurred me on into some very technical specialties that would have most likely received less attention and help if I had been socialized as a girl. Things like programming, fabrication (I was super into techic legos as a kid), and robots/electronics. I know you definitely do see girls doing these things, but it is very uncommon.

My dream job from grade 7 was to be a freelance motion graphics designer/animator in California, and that's exactly what I'm doing now- among other things like designing and fabricating large scale soundsystems and remodelling my house. The experiences I gained absolutely slingshotted me into being unique in more than one field regardless of gender, but I might not have had those learning experiences if I hadn't been living as a male... especially when it comes to my day job. I've worked at most of the top motion graphics studios in LA and I've never once met a girl that even touches 3D animation.

I guess what I mean by male privilege is that I was fully supported and helped by guys while learning these things, instead of assumed to be "just a girl trying to do a man's job". Yuck, I hate that verbiage. Sadly to say though, male privilege gives access to a whole slew of advantages.

Though I knew I was VERY different from my guy friends, I was still happy living as a male because I still felt like I was making progress in life. With all of that progress built up behind me and the benefits I've reaped from it, there is no way I would go back and transition sooner or even be born a cis female. I am way too happy now to ever consider it.

Also, thanks for asking :) Hadn't really thought about it in a while

  I was and am very much like you in terms of my instinctive interests and hobbies and where they led.  I've ended up getting more building toys as an adult with my own money than my parents could afford when I was young.  I was facinated by Technics Lego but couldn't have much of it back then.  There's a need in my mind to understand how everything in the world works and to create new things.  But everything I liked as a child would not have fit with society's gender expectations at the time (1980's).  While just very recently it's started to become okay for 'geeky' girls to exist and congregate into valid peer groups at a young age, I would not have been afforded this luxury if born a girl.  All the experiences and learning I've had through my life have been possible because nobody saw them as out of place for a boy.

  I've thought at great length about what might have been if my childhood had been different.  I've concluded that growing up female with the same mind and social anxiety probably would have been worse for me and I would still have ended up with the complex situation of coming out as a lesbian eventually.  It's very likely I would have wondered if I should have been born a boy because of my likes and dislikes and gone through a similar hell of not fitting in and struggling to find myself.

  If there's a gift in this situation for me it would be that I could validly grow up fitting in better as a boy and then transition in adulthood to fitting in better as a woman.  Kind of like the metamorphosis we like to talk about from caterpillar to butterfly, each form suits a unique situation and is tailored towards it.  I could not be experienced and strong enough now to become a woman without the benefit of the previous incarnation.  In the future if society adjusts to new norms for children in terms of not guilting them out of their interests and not scaring them into gender and sexual polar roles then perhaps girls will be able to just be themselves life-long.  If even one cis person can become more open-minded this way as a result of knowing me and all I have achieved in life, stuggle or no struggle, then I will be a lot more satisfied with my place in the world.  Jennygirl certainly seems to be a shining example of what is possible.

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Tessa James

This thread and the eloquence with which you share your journeys is the perfect embodiment of a Support and Resources Place.  You are beautiful, Thank you! 
Open, out and evolving queer trans person forever with HRT support since March 13, 2013
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Kate G

Quote from: Jennygirl on September 27, 2013, 06:07:23 PM
Sure, I am happy to elaborate.

As a male I did just fine. My whole life I've always been into creative "guy" things, and it spurred me on into some very technical specialties that would have most likely received less attention and help if I had been socialized as a girl. Things like programming, fabrication (I was super into techic legos as a kid), and robots/electronics. I know you definitely do see girls doing these things, but it is very uncommon.

My dream job from grade 7 was to be a freelance motion graphics designer/animator in California, and that's exactly what I'm doing now- among other things like designing and fabricating large scale soundsystems and remodelling my house. The experiences I gained absolutely slingshotted me into being unique in more than one field regardless of gender, but I might not have had those learning experiences if I hadn't been living as a male... especially when it comes to my day job. I've worked at most of the top motion graphics studios in LA and I've never once met a girl that even touches 3D animation.

I guess what I mean by male privilege is that I was fully supported and helped by guys while learning these things, instead of assumed to be "just a girl trying to do a man's job". Yuck, I hate that verbiage. Sadly to say though, male privilege gives access to a whole slew of advantages.

Though I knew I was VERY different from my guy friends, I was still happy living as a male because I still felt like I was making progress in life. With all of that progress built up behind me and the benefits I've reaped from it, there is no way I would go back and transition sooner or even be born a cis female. I am way too happy now to ever consider it.

Also, thanks for asking :) Hadn't really thought about it in a while


It sounds like if someone had a good life with a lot of good experiences in it, prior to transition... then being a "guy" before transition was "good".

But if someone had a crummy life with a lot of bad experiences in it, prior to transition... then being a "guy" before transition was "bad".

That is the conclusion I am arriving at while reading this thread.

Thank you for sharing your experiences :)

"To get something you never had, you have to do something you never did." -Unknown
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Evolving Beauty

The only advantage as a trans I think is I don't have period every month and not fall pregnant cos I'm a nympho and I just like to f... non-stop. Huhuhu!  >:-)
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Lesley_Roberta

Life gives and life takes, and sometimes it takes a lot of stress tears and just plain hurt to pass through to the other side.

Is being transgender a 'gift'? Well I think it comes down to the individual. I am not sure it can be a catch all notion.

I have fybromyalgia. And while it has made me yearn to be dead on more than a few occasions, and while it interacts with my other health problems sometimes in near life threatening levels of pain induced suicidal thoughts, the thing is, it killed off a previous version of me, a person frankly I am glad is gone.

I've told the wife several times in the past, the person she originally married was something of an ->-bleeped-<-. If not for the fybromyalgia I seriously think that person would have done something very cliche, very selfish, and probably would not have passed the 10 anniversary mark. I am nearing the 30th by the way.

Will I ever like having fybromyalgia? Hell no! But, I can look at my life, and realize though, it brought me to where I am, and in the process, I am likely better off even if I have not got anything nice to say about the method.

I think my transition will make me better, but, I am not going to say it will be 'easy'.
Well being TG is no treat, but becoming separated has sure caused me more trouble that being TG ever will be. So if I post, consider it me trying to distract myself from being lonely, not my needing to discuss being TG. I don't want to be separated a lot more than not wanting to be male looking.
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