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Started by izzy, October 05, 2013, 03:33:52 PM

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izzy

I would like to come out to my mom this week about me and telling her about my need to transition and i am seeing a therapists. This monday I need to tell her. I feel like like she is sort of receptive to it from the last time. But she didnt ask me any questions, and completely ignored to what i said. I think i have to be more direct with her. In time, I like her to go to therapy with me and better explain it to her in small parts. I am already a month into therapy and its going very well. I already accept myself for what I am and I am getting very close mentally for an actual transition. I just have to do some work in explaining with the coming out process.
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Cindy

There are some nice advice on the wiki here about coming out to parents, including sample letters and pamphlets for them to read. Just go to the wiki section and have a look.

The wiki staff do a great job and you can pm them for help if need be, just look under the staff list for their contact details.
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Ltl89

Izzy,

I'm hoping it goes well for you!  Have you talked things over with your therapist and developed a strategy together?  Remember, we're all here for you no matter what. :)

Good luck!
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Megumi

I hope things go over well for you Izzy! It's tough a thing to do and quite frankly downright terrifying to get over one's fears to admit to their parents what they are and want to be. Whatever happens we'll be here for you, Hugs :D

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izzy

Quote from: learningtolive on October 05, 2013, 05:50:05 PM
Izzy,

I'm hoping it goes well for you!  Have you talked things over with your therapist and developed a strategy together?  Remember, we're all here for you no matter what. :)

Good luck!
my therapist suggested to tell her that its something that isn't her fault or my fathers fault due to poor parenting and its something innate that I acquired during pregnancy she said. I would like to tell her in person. A letter is something I just can't do. I have a super close relationship with my mom and I feel like I know I will shatter her dreams of me. Telling her the truth I feel is the only way. My therapists didn't really say too much and left it up to me come out in my terms
Quote from: Megan on October 05, 2013, 07:27:23 PM
I hope things go over well for you Izzy! It's tough a thing to do and quite frankly downright terrifying to get over one's fears to admit to their parents what they are and want to be. Whatever happens we'll be here for you, Hugs :D
I fear the worst but she seems receptive of it and I feel she will come througj. But I feel she wont like if I start to be a women and act like a women is the hardest part of it for her
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Megumi

Quote from: izzy on October 05, 2013, 08:54:51 PM
I fear the worst but she seems receptive of it and I feel she will come througj. But I feel she wont like if I start to be a women and act like a women is the hardest part of it for her
I'd have to say from what I've read on the subject is that it's normal for them to feel that way at first. We are in fact turning their entire world of how they perceived us and what we are and how they hoped we'd turn out in life completely upside down on it's head. Even if there's resistance at first it eventually goes away to acceptance once they have been given enough time to grieve the loss of their child and accept the new reality of their real child. Now I don't speak from personal experience but this seems to be the norm from many many other coming out stories and progress updates that I've read looking for guidance and support. I still haven't come out but I'm very close as well and I share all of the same fears as you do, but we just have to hope for the best in the end is all we can do. 

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izzy

I spoke to my mom and it didnt turned out very well. she told me I could get shot, you cant live like a women. no one will accept it in society. your not fighting it. your not doing anything to help yourself. i am talking to people people on the internet like that. i felt kind of like crap.
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Megumi

Quote from: izzy on October 07, 2013, 04:56:26 PM
I spoke to my mom and it didnt turned out very well. she told me I could get shot, you cant live like a women. no one will accept it in society. your not fighting it. your not doing anything to help yourself. i am talking to people people on the internet like that. i felt kind of like crap.
Sounds like she is in shock over all of it. Give her some time to reflect then keep true to the direction in life that you want to go. We have to keep in mind that we aren't the only ones who suffer when we come out. Our parents/family/friends suffer too since they've always known you as X and now you want to be Y. That takes some adjusting to get used to the concept. She is right that we could get harmed for being ourselves but it's a risk we take to be happy with ourselves. Sure you want everyone to be at least respectful of you but there are lots of crappy people out there. Keep your chin up! Big hugs :D

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izzy

Quote from: Megan on October 07, 2013, 08:21:43 PM
Sounds like she is in shock over all of it. Give her some time to reflect then keep true to the direction in life that you want to go. We have to keep in mind that we aren't the only ones who suffer when we come out. Our parents/family/friends suffer too since they've always known you as X and now you want to be Y. That takes some adjusting to get used to the concept. She is right that we could get harmed for being ourselves but it's a risk we take to be happy with ourselves. Sure you want everyone to be at least respectful of you but there are lots of crappy people out there. Keep your chin up! Big hugs :D
I totally understand the risk and understand what she is saying out of love . But I have tried and can't stop feeling this way at all. I just want to live my life as passable women and thats it. She also said I can't be interested in girls but I am. I feel like a lesbian. I will give her lots of time. I understand she is in pain and needs support too. I want to be there for my family. I don't think I will give up my love life. My therapist said I have a face that will work. I am scared if the risk but I need to keep going.
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Megumi

Quote from: izzy on October 07, 2013, 08:44:24 PM
  I totally understand the risk and understand what she is saying out of love . But I have tried and can't stop feeling this way at all. I just want to live my life as passable women and thats it. She also said I can't be interested in girls but I am. I feel like a lesbian. I will give her lots of time. I understand she is in pain and needs support too. I want to be there for my family. I don't think I will give up my love life. My therapist said I have a face that will work. I am scared if the risk but I need to keep going.
That's the best attitude to have going forward and that's to just keep on going. There's absolutely nothing wrong with being a trans woman and being attracted to girls, by all technical definitions it just makes you a lesbian and there's not a thing wrong with that either :D

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izzy

As an update my mom has taken it really bad. She called my sister crying on the phone to tell her what I said. My sister called me shortly thereafter and simply blaming for what i feel on my dads death. I told my sister it has very little to do with my fathers death the way i feel. I couldnt talk more about it. I feel like they are just trying to not let me be happy.
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Megumi

Quote from: izzy on October 09, 2013, 09:11:30 AM
As an update my mom has taken it really bad. She called my sister crying on the phone to tell her what I said. My sister called me shortly thereafter and simply blaming for what i feel on my dads death. I told my sister it has very little to do with my fathers death the way i feel. I couldnt talk more about it. I feel like they are just trying to not let me be happy.
It sounds like they are still taking in everything. Its a lot to to handle and anger is one of the things that does come out during the process of coming to terms with their own reality.

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izzy

Quote from: Megan on October 09, 2013, 09:54:00 AM
It sounds like they are still taking in everything. Its a lot to to handle and anger is one of the things that does come out during the process of coming to terms with their own reality.
my mom thought said she is scared and indirectly implied she doesnt want to be with me or associate with me at all if i transition. I expected and didnt expect my mom to have this reaction. I dont know what she would do. But it seems with my family my feelings are not legitimate, like i am expected to not have feelings or something. its scary but she keeps hounding me about me being trans like she could talk me out of my feelings that have been going on for a long time.
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Robin Mack

*hug*  I anticipate similar reactions from my own mother; I intend to come out to her this weekend.  It has gotten to the point where I have avoided talking to her because of my fear that she can't accept the real me.

Here's where I feel I may be able to help a little... I'm also a parent.  I have three beautiful girls (two step daughters and one biological).  I met the two step daughters when they were five and six, I am the only father they have ever known.  I will be coming out to them, too, as soon as I have an opportunity (I want to tell them face to face and it is a little hard to nail them down).

Anyway, my mother and I have been through some pretty horrific things together, including the death by murder of my father at the hands of my adopted brother, who, it turns out, was a paranoid schizophrenic at the time.  I know a bit about grief, and about how it applies to your situation.

While a number of researchers have a problem with the model, the "5 stages of grief" are actually a pretty helpful system for understanding what we go through when we do grieve:

Denial - This can't be happening, that's my "son".  It must be a phase.
Anger - My "son" had better not be doing this to me!
Bargaining - Maybe if I listen to "him" more, I can stop this.
Depression - Finally beginning to accept that nothing she can do will change your mind
Acceptance - Well, at least she's still alive and healthy...

These are all, by nature, selfish reactions... she is likely in enough shock and pain right now to not even be able to think of you, only what is happening to her as a result.  That's perfectly normal... and you are *NOT* to blame.  You are expressing yourself as an individual, and you are giving her the chance to know the real you.  It's not going to be easy, but you have gotten through it, and she can too.  *hug*

She will likely say more hurtful things... right now, she will be focused on getting you to give up on what is, to her, a crazy and dangerous thing to do.  What she doesn't see and probably can't understand yet is that you are in greater danger if you do not do it.  If a therapist agrees you need to transition, that is likely the reason why.  It has been proven that things do not get better over time, without transition things generally get worse and worse.  Over time, she will probably heal enough, accept enough to listen to that.  Then she will probably begin to understand.

As parents are hard-wired to protect our young.  If we see them doing something we perceive as dangerous we will do anything we can to stop it (or, if our kids are grown and we want them to be independent, we will try to calmly dispense advice, then shut our mouths and sit on our hands to avoid interfering, which is *much* more difficult to do... trust me on this!)

She can't ground you or otherwise punish you to change what she sees as bad behavior, so all she has are threats.  When she sees that these aren't working she will likely begin progressing through her grief and will meet you on the other side.

This is not an easy road we are on, Izzy... not for us or for the people who walk beside us.  But it promises a life fulfilled... and, really, when parents can step back from a situation and really think about it instead of reacting, that's what we really want for our children.

*hug*  Hang tight, the storm looks pretty bad now, but the sky is clearing up on the horizon.  And rain makes the flowers grow.
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izzy

Quote from: robinmack on October 09, 2013, 11:02:32 AM
*hug*  I anticipate similar reactions from my own mother; I intend to come out to her this weekend.  It has gotten to the point where I have avoided talking to her because of my fear that she can't accept the real me.

Here's where I feel I may be able to help a little... I'm also a parent.  I have three beautiful girls (two step daughters and one biological).  I met the two step daughters when they were five and six, I am the only father they have ever known.  I will be coming out to them, too, as soon as I have an opportunity (I want to tell them face to face and it is a little hard to nail them down).

Anyway, my mother and I have been through some pretty horrific things together, including the death by murder of my father at the hands of my adopted brother, who, it turns out, was a paranoid schizophrenic at the time.  I know a bit about grief, and about how it applies to your situation.

While a number of researchers have a problem with the model, the "5 stages of grief" are actually a pretty helpful system for understanding what we go through when we do grieve:

Denial - This can't be happening, that's my "son".  It must be a phase.
Anger - My "son" had better not be doing this to me!
Bargaining - Maybe if I listen to "him" more, I can stop this.
Depression - Finally beginning to accept that nothing she can do will change your mind
Acceptance - Well, at least she's still alive and healthy...

These are all, by nature, selfish reactions... she is likely in enough shock and pain right now to not even be able to think of you, only what is happening to her as a result.  That's perfectly normal... and you are *NOT* to blame.  You are expressing yourself as an individual, and you are giving her the chance to know the real you.  It's not going to be easy, but you have gotten through it, and she can too.  *hug*

She will likely say more hurtful things... right now, she will be focused on getting you to give up on what is, to her, a crazy and dangerous thing to do.  What she doesn't see and probably can't understand yet is that you are in greater danger if you do not do it.  If a therapist agrees you need to transition, that is likely the reason why.  It has been proven that things do not get better over time, without transition things generally get worse and worse.  Over time, she will probably heal enough, accept enough to listen to that.  Then she will probably begin to understand.

As parents are hard-wired to protect our young.  If we see them doing something we perceive as dangerous we will do anything we can to stop it (or, if our kids are grown and we want them to be independent, we will try to calmly dispense advice, then shut our mouths and sit on our hands to avoid interfering, which is *much* more difficult to do... trust me on this!)

She can't ground you or otherwise punish you to change what she sees as bad behavior, so all she has are threats.  When she sees that these aren't working she will likely begin progressing through her grief and will meet you on the other side.

This is not an easy road we are on, Izzy... not for us or for the people who walk beside us.  But it promises a life fulfilled... and, really, when parents can step back from a situation and really think about it instead of reacting, that's what we really want for our children.

*hug*  Hang tight, the storm looks pretty bad now, but the sky is clearing up on the horizon.  And rain makes the flowers grow.
I wish your situation is a little bit better than my parent. i think it would get better with time but it takes a long time for it
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