fat redistribution

[yellowboy]

I am 21 and want more than anything to be a woman. I am currently 6'2" and almost 300lbs. I was wondering with me being so big would my fat still redistribute or will it just stay in the same place?

[Keira]

The fat will not redistribute, it just looks like that.
Estrogen will make fat accumulate on the hips / thighs / buttocks / breasts, etc.
Fat will not accumulate around the belly.

So, if you eat healthy, exercise, in time, the fat around the belly will be used for energy and your shape will look more female. At 300 pounds, it will take a major effort.

I would recommend starting pre-HRT, because HRT willl make your muscle mass lesser which will make it harder to lose weight.

[MeghanAndrews]

Yellowboy, I'm not sure if you plan on transitioning and having surgery, but I know someone else on this forum was saying that the maximum weight you could be for most doctors to perform GRS is 240. I haven't checked that out myself, but you might want to do the research and see if that's the case.

Like Keira said, I highly recommend getting your body to the proportions you want BEFORE you go on hormones, then the fat will accumulate where you want it. I've been working on that for 6 months and I'm almost there. I started at 178 8 months ago and I'm at 145 now, working on getting down to 140.

[seldom]

That is very unhealthy weight and how your body redistributes body weight is ideal if you are extremely healthy.  Basically The healthier you are the better HRT will work.  Its just a fact of life.  Thats why TS end up being such health nuts.  They have to be. 

As it was stated you want to be at an ideal weight before hormones.  How effective they are very dependent on the health of the person.  The healthier you are the more effective they are.

[Nero]

Ugh. Health nut this, optimum weight that, all TS should be vain, boring, yogurt slurping, gym bunnies...blah, blah, blah, yada, yada, yada...

HRT redistributes both new and existing fat. It usually takes a while. Maybe even a year or two. It has nothing to do with being fat or thin. Nowhere in the HRT article in the wiki does it say that.

TS do not need to be health nuts. As for me, I'm already at the male risk for all that junk that testosterone is going to cause anyhow. There's certainly no need for me to start existing on rabbit food.
I'm not transitioning for a life of deprivation.

Yellowboy asked a simple question about fat redistribution. You ladies ever consider that maybe being a waiflike model is not high on her priority list?

[louise000]

Like Keira said, I highly recommend getting your body to the proportions you want BEFORE you go on hormones, then the fat will accumulate where you want it. I've been working on that for 6 months and I'm almost there. I started at 178 8 months ago and I'm at 145 now, working on getting down to 140.

If you don't mind me asking, what is your height Megan? I'm 5ft 8in and 168lb, and like you I want to get to 140lb (I was 189lb last Christmas).
Louise

[Lori]

I'd lose the weight first, it is much harder to lose the weight on HRT.

[Laura Eva B]

I am 21 and want more than anything to be a woman. I am currently 6'2" and almost 300lbs. I was wondering with me being so big would my fat still redistribute or will it just stay in the same place

Your body mass index (BMI) is 38.5 !
Overweight is anything over 25, obese is over 30.
Underweight is less than 18.5.
(athletes are allowed higher BMIs because of their higher muscle to fat ratio)

To be in a "healthy" weight category you need to get down to below 190lb, optimum for your height would be around 170lb ...

I'm not preaching here but concerned .... that kind of weight is likely to dramatically shorten your life, and make you liable to all kinds of health problems .... but I guess you know that  .

Keira and some others here are health nuts (no offence  !) and to be honest you are likely to end up with a more conventionally feminine figure by being a bit unfit, moderately slim, but with a higher fat to muscle ratio than men have. 

Women do have a lot more fat on their bodies, and hrt will never get us this distribution, and over excersise works against looking feminine.  Even natal woman athletes hardly have pretty feminine looking bodies and often look like men (think of some tennis players !).

Answering your question, fat will re-distribute, but at your kind of weight its not going to be that noticeable.

As to hrt affecting your ability to lose weight, probably not unless you plan to do it purely through excersise. 

I slimmed from 174lb to 134lb in around 4 months in preparation for transition (on a low carb, calorie restricted diet), two of them having started hrt. My weight has been stable for 3 years and when I occasionally touch 140lb, I diet and excersise for a couple of weeks and those few pounds drop easily ! (BTW I'm only 5ft 7 1/2in)

Yellowboy asked a simple question about fat redistribution. You ladies ever consider that maybe being a waiflike model is not high on her priority list?

Sorry .... but its hard not to preach, and being size 8 / 10 makes it soo much easier (and more fun) to buy nice clothes  .  I really feel that its my figure that makes me passable, (narrowish waist, thin feminine arms with soft skin etc.), not my face which is "so-so".

In affluent, health concious "London area" UK one feels that there is almost as much weight discrimination (body facsism) as there is ts discrimination, why make it hard for yourself on both fronts !

Best of luck "Yellowboy", hope things work out well for you.  Keep in touch with the forum to let us know what you're doing ....

Hugs 

Laura x

[Keira]

The truth is that if your abdomen is wider than your hips, I'm not even talking slimmer, then passing becomes hard if your tall and broad too. People will tend to see this first. If you can slim the abdomen to the size of the hips, they will notice the height first, which is further slimming.

I wasn't talking about 5 hours of exercise per day, I don't know why someone assumed that.

Eating healthy gives a lot of leway in what you eat and exercise can be a 30 minute walk a day at a moderate pace (not slow). Walking is one of the best exercise when you have a lot of weight to lose because its low impact on the articulation and allows you to go at your own pace.

[Nero]

I wasn't talking about 5 hours of exercise per day, I don't know why someone assumed that.

I was exaggerating lol.
It's not even just this thread, or those who posted in it (have a habit of bringing frustration buildup from other threads;have to stop doing that).
I realize you ladies were just trying to be helpful.
What it is  - is that anyone who dares have the balls to mention that they're not of the ideal weight in this forum or any TS forum, is immediately subjected to an avalanche of unsolicited diet and exercise advice. And quite frankly, it pisses me off.

The real question is - Do we want to be men and women? Or do we want to be perfect men and women? Gorgeous men and women?

[Laura Eva B]

The real question is - Do we want to be men and women? Or do we want to be perfect men and women? Gorgeous men and women?

I'll go for "gorgeous woman" pleeease    !?!??

Laura x

[Nero]

The real question is - Do we want to be men and women? Or do we want to be perfect men and women? Gorgeous men and women?

I'll go for "gorgeous woman" pleeease    !?!??

Laura x

lol

[MeghanAndrews]

Yellow, I hope didn't take offense to my comment, I've just talked to a lot of people who have transitioned and they were recommending that I be at my target weight before hormones.

Of course, they I was pretty health-obsessed anyway. Anyway, no offense.

Louise, I'm 5'6".  I can't be much lower than 140 because I'll look anorexic and that's not going to make me feel good about myself.

I guess in the end that's really what it's all about. I wouldn't be surprised if so many TS seem health obessessed due to negative self image or at least trying to overcompensate for perceived imperfections in themselves. 

[Keira]

The weight you should be depends in great part on fat % and frame size.
In my case, I wouldn't be able to wear size 7 pants at 170 pounds if my frame was not slight and I wasn't athletic.

[Nero]

Yellow, I hope didn't take offense to my comment, I've just talked to a lot of people who have transitioned and they were recommending that I be at my target weight before hormones.

Of course, they I was pretty health-obsessed anyway. Anyway, no offense.

Nah, probably didn't offend her, just me (teasing lol ). You were just trying to be helpful by passing on advice given to you. I'm just a bit sensitive concerning this issue.

[Berliegh]

The fat will not redistribute, it just looks like that.
Estrogen will make fat accumulate on the hips / thighs / buttocks / breasts, etc.
Fat will not accumulate around the belly.

So, if you eat healthy, exercise, in time, the fat around the belly will be used for energy and your shape will look more female. At 300 pounds, it will take a major effort.

I would recommend starting pre-HRT, because HRT willl make your muscle mass lesser which will make it harder to lose weight.

You seem to know your stuff Keira and I need some advice. I have been on hormones for over 6 years yet I am unable to gain any fat re- distribution. I find all the fat goes on my belly and it looks like a beer belly. I do an awful lot of excercise everyday (play tennis, jog, walk etc) but the fat still acumilates in the wrong area's.

My legs are a little fatter but the lower part of the legs are very boney. I don't have any hip development although I have noticed weight loss in the upper body which is good. I have very little breast shape or development. It may be that it's taking more time with me than most people but I am dissapointed so far..

[Keira]

If you eat less than you take and you exercise, the beer belly should go away.

If your T level is too high, E too low, or you eat too much fast digested carbohydrates (insulin tends to favor accumulation around the abdomen), you'll get parts or all of your fat going towards the abdomen. Stress leads to cortisol being released by the body which also favors abdomen accumulation.

If you do exercise in those cases, the fat could be used up on your lower body instead (since those factors keep the abdomen fats as storage).

Are you sure your T and E levels are all right; I think you said you are taking ethinilyestradiol (I recommended a switch, especially if you boost dosage).

Try to see how many calories you eat in a day for a week, take a notepad with you and note everything, then cut just 300 calories from that (you can do that by slightly cutting every portions during the whole day). Eat less rafined carbos (soft drinks, etc), and more carbos that take a long time to digest, this will push down you insulin level. Try to relax more, yoga?

[Nero]

The fat will not redistribute, it just looks like that.
Estrogen will make fat accumulate on the hips / thighs / buttocks / breasts, etc.
Fat will not accumulate around the belly.

So, if you eat healthy, exercise, in time, the fat around the belly will be used for energy and your shape will look more female. At 300 pounds, it will take a major effort.

I would recommend starting pre-HRT, because HRT willl make your muscle mass lesser which will make it harder to lose weight.

You seem to know your stuff Keira and I need some advice. I have been on hormones for over 6 years yet I am unable to gain any fat re- distribution. I find all the fat goes on my belly and it looks like a beer belly. I do an awful lot of excercise everyday (play tennis, jog, walk etc) but the fat still acumilates in the wrong area's.

My legs are a little fatter but the lower part of the legs are very boney. I don't have any hip development although I have noticed weight loss in the upper body which is good. I have very little breast shape or development. It may be that it's taking more time with me than most people but I am dissapointed so far..

Hi Berliegh.
There's also the possiblity that your body just favors a masculine fat distribution as some genetic females have.
I do - all my weight goes to my stomach.

[Melissa]

TS do not need to be health nuts. As for me, I'm already at the male risk for all that junk that testosterone is going to cause anyhow. There's certainly no need for me to start existing on rabbit food.
I'm not transitioning for a life of deprivation.

We don't *need* to be, but if we are going to go through such a difficult thing as transition, why not try to prolong our lives?

[Berliegh]

I am 21 and want more than anything to be a woman. I am currently 6'2" and almost 300lbs. I was wondering with me being so big would my fat still redistribute or will it just stay in the same place?

It Stays in the same place usually.....with HRT it builds on the areas that are already fat....I only had fat on my belly and it kept acumilating in that area.
After 7 years on hormones it hasn't improved much but you have to work at it and excercise in the right places.