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The Hidden Impact of Obamacare and the Economy

Started by Jamie D, December 22, 2013, 04:28:58 PM

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amZo

QuoteOn the point about unemployment, I have to disagree that most don't do much to secure employment.

Couple points on that. There have been studies in various countries that show there is a huge spike in employment just prior to the end of benefits, regardless of the length of benefits. For example, if it's two months versus 24 months, there's low employment of these people until the very end, pretty good evidence. Plus, numerous people admit to it. I hired a painter this summer to paint my home and I asked him about his crew, their experience, etc. He mentioned how difficult the hiring process is because ninety percent who apply don't want a job, but rather are looking for proof of job 'searching' to remain on unemployment benefits.  NINETY percent... his estimate anyway, he may have been exaggerating but it makes sense. If you're able bodied, you should be able to find something in short order to get off taxpayer assistance, unless painting houses is 'beneath' them, sure isn't for me. 

QuoteAll I can say is the ACA was a lifesaver for me because it allowed me to go on my mother's policy when I was in need.

But I want the beneficiaries to understand there are people losing their insurance because of this 'law'. A lot of young people's parents are losing their health insurance and the young are being asked to pay double and triple appropriate premiums for them to pay for the elderly. That's not right.

Again, I believe in helping those who can't afford health insurance. But how many of these people gave up cable television and their expensive phone plans before forgoing health insurance? I don't know, but it's not zero.

Blowing up the whole system to deal with 5-10% of the population who many can afford but choose not to insure is ridiculous.
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amZo

QuoteI don't mind plans being cancelled if they lacked certain standards and were just insurance in name only, but I do know that deductibles and premiums for many of the decent plans have changed.

You don't mind that I'm soon to be uninsured, but I do. I don't need maternity coverage, etc.

I feel you're in the group that if it benefits you, you support it and if it doesn't you won't, but I could be wrong but it sounds correct.

I'm not in that group. I'm against this law even if I got the world's biggest exemption (and there are many for Obama's favored constituents like unions, etc.) and got it for free.

The only good thing for me personally though is, I no longer regret not going into medicine.

I believe in freedom and it's our greatest asset that we're giving up. I'm cool with you choosing to do that, but I'd like to be free to choose freedom. It works best every time it's tried. Plus, you don't need tall barbed wire fences to keep people from escaping, that's a nice bonus feature IMO.  ;)
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V M

Hi friends  :police:

This conversation is getting a bit too heated folks

Time to take a break and find something else to do with yourselves awhile

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Thank you

V M
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