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Started by Natalia, November 08, 2013, 07:25:03 AM

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Natalia

Hello everyone!

On my introduction topic a point was made, if I could have an intersex condition because I am having kind of a good response to MTF HRT. That made me remember a few things that were buried inside my brain for a long time.

- When my mother was expecting me, for a long time the doctors told her that I was going to be a girl. That made all my family buy girl clothes, pink blankets and such. When my mother was on the last months she was told by her doctor that I was actually a boy.

- I was born a healthy normal baby with normal genitals, but I always had short height to my age. When I was about 6-7 years old, a doctor diagnosed me with an undescended testicle. I quite don't remember very well, but I remember that it was usual for my mother to ask me to verify if the two testicles were at my scrotum or just one. Eventually things got right without the need of a surgery.

- But my height problems continued and I never got really tall, ending with 5.5 feet. My puberty was kind of delayed too, I always felt like 2 years or more behind the other boys at my age. I only started to present acnes and beard with around 18 years old and kept presenting acnes until I was around 22 years old. It was kind of strange to present acnes that late.

- Maybe it should be important to post that well, my sexual organs are kind of small too, specially my scrotum (ok, this was the most difficult part for me to tell *breathe*)

- I was always a bit overweight, my corporal mass index was around 26-27 for a long time and, perhaps because of that, I don't know, but when I was around 10 years old I started to present gynecomastia (mostly unilateral) and they never got smaller, even when I lost weight.

- My thighs and butt were always big too, what gave me a slightly female shape to my body, mainly bellow the butt.

But what I would like to ask is:

Could any of those facts that happened to me be related to my current condition as MTF? Could I have an intersex condition and I never realized that?

I don't know if intersex condition applies, because I saw on some internet sites that people with those conditions don't present baldness, or beard, and may be very tall. I am short and had baldening on my corners. But beyond that, some things seems to apply.

I am going to ask my doctor about it, but my next visit will be only next year! Can someone help me?

Kisses and hugs!  ;)
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LordKAT

Maybe, but in the end does it really matter?
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Natalia

Quote from: LordKAT on November 08, 2013, 07:47:24 AM
Maybe, but in the end does it really matter?

For me, not really, but it could help my family to understand why I am doing what I am doing. I am sure my mother will freak out when I tell her and perhaps she will tell me I am crazy and that I am not a a female, that something must be wrong with my mind and such...but perhaps they can see my condition as something not only related to my mind, but related to all my body, to my genes.

For me it will not change anything, but I got curious too  ::)
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LordKAT

Understandable, I would be curious too. I didn't worry much over family, probably cause I was older.
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Nicolette

Your puberty sounds pretty much within the norms to me and like mine. I think the idea of being intersex is a compelling one, for obvious reasons. I think it's probably been considered by many mtf at some point or other in their lives. It's an extremely rare condition, and a test would most probably disappoint. I always thought there was something up with me when growing up. I had a delayed puberty, could never could grow a beard, minuscule upper body strength, had very soft features and was always extremely sensitive. Oh, I also had an undescended testicle which had to be corrected with surgery. It's a different experience (perhaps a beneficial one for an m2f), but still within the bounds of normal development.
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JLT1

Quote from: Natalia on November 08, 2013, 07:54:35 AM
For me, not really, but it could help my family to understand why I am doing what I am doing. I am sure my mother will freak out when I tell her and perhaps she will tell me I am crazy and that I am not a a female, that something must be wrong with my mind and such...but perhaps they can see my condition as something not only related to my mind, but related to all my body, to my genes.

For me it will not change anything, but I got curious too  ::)

In the short run, it can help.  However, over time, it may come back and bite you.  Then, it is even worse.

If you really think you are intersexed, get tested and deal with it appropriately.

I don't mean to discourage you and I really do wish you well.  Be what you are. 

Hugs,

Jen
To move forward is to leave behind that which has become dear. It is a call into the wild, into becoming someone currently unknown to us. For most, it is a call too frightening and too challenging to heed. For some, it is a call to be more than we were capable of being, both now and in the future.
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Northern Jane

Intersex is, by definition, a physiological abnormality and as such can only be diagnosed by a doctor based on medical examination. Abnormal chromosomes, DNA variations, or anatomical abnormalities that don't fall within the normal range indicate the presence of an Intersex condition but variations within the normal range do not.
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Sammy

Quote from: Nicolette on November 08, 2013, 08:19:38 AM
Your puberty sounds pretty much within the norms to me and like mine. I think the idea of being intersex is a compelling one, for obvious reasons. I think it's probably been considered by many mtf at some point or other in their lives. It's an extremely rare condition, and a test would most probably disappoint. I always thought there was something up with me when growing up. I had a delayed puberty, could never could grow a beard, minuscule upper body strength, had very soft features and was always extremely sensitive. Oh, I also had an undescended testicle which had to be corrected with surgery. It's a different experience (perhaps a beneficial one for an m2f), but still within the bounds of normal development.

Yup, Your story sounds similar to mine :). Delayed puberty - my chest started sporting hair around my mid 20-ties and never really developed there... I never could grow out facial hair - I had to shave twice per day, but if I just let it grow everything would just stop after 3-4 days and having it on my face was unbearable sensation. I could not develop big muscles no matter I did, but I developed a different kind of upper body strength eventually. I always had extremely flexible body, but had no issues with testicles :(. My karyotype tested as normal 46 XY male, but I never did tests for MAIS. I really hoped that I might be intersex to explain things to my family and other people, but that did not work.
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Natalia

Thanks everyone for the answers!

Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on November 12, 2013, 08:26:33 AM
Yup, Your story sounds similar to mine :). Delayed puberty - my chest started sporting hair around my mid 20-ties and never really developed there... I never could grow out facial hair - I had to shave twice per day, but if I just let it grow everything would just stop after 3-4 days and having it on my face was unbearable sensation. I could not develop big muscles no matter I did, but I developed a different kind of upper body strength eventually. I always had extremely flexible body, but had no issues with testicles :(. My karyotype tested as normal 46 XY male, but I never did tests for MAIS. I really hoped that I might be intersex to explain things to my family and other people, but that did not work.

Hmm this is really interesting!

I see many of us share similar histories and they can be more common that I had imagined - delayed puberty, less facial and body hair, difficult to gain muscles and so on. While that may not be directly related to being intersex, probably it has something to do with our condition as MTFs, don't you think? That may be a good subject to a monography!

But it is definitely a shame, because an intersex condition could help a lot when explaining our condition to our family, friends, to everyone. But well, the important is to know that we are females, our brain works on a female pattern and for me it is all that matters. :)
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Sammy

It could be also Mild Androgen Insensivity Syndrome for it is very tricky to diagnose, besides infertility is also not a mandatory prerequisite for it as in case of Complete AIS or Partial AIS... And I know many, many other MtFs who had similar stories. One rather crazy theory which I had was that our mind is much stronger and capable than we think and we might subconsciously re-programme our bodies so that male puberty would deal less damage to us...
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