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Probably putting too much thought into this, but...

Started by Murbella, October 03, 2013, 03:23:16 PM

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Murbella

I'm beginning to think deeply about how best to come out to my family... for those reading, you have been warned as I said "deeply" I mean deeply.

First on a topic I feel is sometimes baffling to people just starting to go through the coming out phase of their transition.  "Why is everyone mourning my loss?!  I'm not dead!  If anything you should be happy for me as I am finally dealing with something that has been bothering me (although subconsciously) all my life."  I started searching for information and found that these are quite common feelings of those coming out to others.  It's hard from that perspective to understand why close family and friends go through this even if there are no underlying social or personal prejudice at play.  After lots of research and reflection, I now tend to relate this all back to the idea of how the human mind perceives reality.  Our brains do not actually view reality as it physically exists outside our head, only a simulation of reality that exists exclusively in our own mind.  The mind constantly generates simulations of people, objects and situations and uses past experience to apply properties to those simulations in order to understand how they might react to our actions or the actions of others.  As you meet a new person and get to know them, you are constantly revising your model of that person so that you can better predict their reactions to situations and better interact with them on an interpersonal level.  One of the first things that humans do when generating this simulation is attribute a gender.  In general gender brings with it many other accurate expectations (Many times these expectations are based on stereotypical gender norms though, but I think that is a topic for another time) on how a person will react to situations and actions.  This becomes a core property of your understanding of that person.  The longer you've known a person as that gender, the more foundational that becomes in how you see that person.  This can also be used to understand the trouble that many people have in interacting with androgyny.  If a person is inherently complicated to assign gender, it becomes hard for others to predict their actions as most humans lack simulations that are without gender.  The mind must start grasping for the unknown which can frequently provoke hostility and defensive behavior.

This is why people close to coming out trans* people go through such grief.  They are in effect tearing the foundation out of the simulation they have built up to represent the person they see.  With the foundation removed the rest of the structure crumbles and in order to move on, they must mourn a loss regardless of the fact that nothing physical has actually been removed.  Our own image of ourselves can evolve at many levels far more readily than that which others possess, as they have no insight as to the actual inner workings of our thought process, only the action taken by the shell we inhabit.  We may see only gradual alterations in our own personality, but they see it as a sudden and profound change in everything that once made up their son/daughter/brother/sister/friend...

Now I apply this towards coming out, in my case specifically to my mother.  A mother generally is the person who has known you as your birth gender the longest.  Through changing diapers and baths she has deeply ingrained visual evidence to back that up.  She has based her image of her growing child on this central fact.  In order for me to best come out as being transgender, I in effect have to do everything I can to help her to rebuild her image of me as a person from foundation up.    In thinking somewhat constantly about how I'm going to go about doing this, I realize that is seems there are two separate tracts of how I have to come across.  First, I have done huge amounts of research into how to outline human gender and sexuality as a massive multidimensional probability matrix with the traditional 2 starting points of XY and XX towards opposite ends of the field (this is neglecting to mention where intersex conditions fit in).  Each axis representing some facet of gender or sexuality of which there's some statistical distribution centered on some baseline XY and XX average.  Innate gender, gender presentation, masculinity/femininity personality, attraction to masculine/feminine personality, attraction to masculine/feminine gender presentation.  All the above, and more than I have neglected to mention, have their own axis in this probability space and the fact that you were born with a Y chromosome or not merely sets which distribution they are a member of.  Some points in this matrix are more likely than others but that in no way implies that any other point is any less valid, simply more or less unique.  I can then relate where I see myself within this space.  In my case, I am probably neutral with respect to my personality and those I am attracted to as far as masculinity/femininity.  I am neither macho nor am I girly, and I am not really attracted to personality traits traditionally possessed by those far on either side of the spectrum.  As far as physical traits, I am both attracted to and would like to see myself possessing a feminine body.  So in effect, I identify most as a slightly butch lesbian.

So now I can probably now talk for hours on this from an academic standpoint going over some of the various studies done with post mortem autopsies and how brain features in trans* people are statistically in the same distribution as their chosen gender identity, but there is the far more important emotional side that has to be tackled when coming out.  All that grief that comes with the feeling of loss must be dealt with in order to move on.  So I have attempted to classify tactics that I can take in easing others through each stage of loss.

I think the one I struggle with the most is denial, as I suffer from it myself still.  Why can't I just cope with being depressed and move on with my life, they make medication for that.  I think for this I generally have to fall back upon stories of others in similar situations.  My understanding of gender dysphoria is that things get worse with time.  Sometimes it takes longer for someone to come to terms with their issues which is why you see people going through their transitions starting at 30, 40, 50, and years beyond.  Some may have known about their issue and chosen to not do anything about it due to various concerns.  Social acceptance, employment, family, children, and any number of other concerns play into this but the end result seems that depression remains and generally results in either deteriorating health or mental state.  I don't want to suffer when there is a treatment that results in a 95% reported positive outcome.  No other mental condition has such a success rate as using gender transition for transgender patients.  Add on the fact that making the transition later in life also tends to bring with it further health complications and reduces the degree of expected feminization or masculinization that can be expected through HRT and I have what I feel are two potent reasons to help with denial in myself and others.  The question of "why now?" will probably come up as well.  I think the best I can do here is try and place her in my shoes.  I am not feminine, I don't hate my penis, and I like girls, guess I'm not trans as the only portrayal the media allowed me to experience is either the badly passing crossdressing sex worker.  Those that do pass can blend in as feminine women who lure straight men into bed to act out some sense of revenge.  This isn't the only option though as there are many transwomen who are like me and are now living full and happy lives and it took me until several years ago to find the other option.

Anger/blame is probably going to be tough with my mother.  She doesn't care for my wife, she doesn't care for the fact that I moved out of state and have been distant, and she absolutely hates my father.  All of these will probably collect some sense of her blame as causal factors in me putting her through this.  The best I can do here is site that even though it took me forever to come to terms with why I have always felt different, it has been a persistent issue throughout my life.  Blame should be assigned to society as a whole for badly representing transgender issues and applying such a stigma on those who attempt to alter their presentation to reflect their reality, but there is no single person nor collection of factors in my own life that can be blamed.

Bargaining is easy, nothing she can do here.  Followed by depression... Best I can do here is keep in frequent contact so that she knows that this path is making me happy (assuming that it will which I still have no clue about).  I feel that anyone I talk to about this will never truly be able to enter into acceptance until viewing me as a happy functioning adult in whatever final form I end up.  It is hard to accept something of this magnitude without having the ability to see it in reality.  I can't see my final reality in any sense, how do I expect others to do so either.  The best I think I can hope for from anyone at this point is empathy and support.  I fear that acceptance is something I have to first find for myself before I can find it in anyone else, but I hope some people surprise me ;D

Ltl89

Hey Murbella,

You sound a lot like me.  Not so much your lifestyle, but in the way you think.  I've always been an analytical person and have always have made large plans before taking action.  I will say, however, that over planning that delays action isn't always going to lead to the desirable result.  Sure, it's smart to plan, but don't over plan to the point that you are only anaylzing and making assumptions before taking action and living.  In short, don't become me, lol. 

On the mother issue, I very much share your pain.  I'm really hoping that things go better than what you fear.  Again, make plans and be prepared, but don't hold yourself back forever to find the perfect strategy.  Sometimes the image we develop in our head isn't the case which you seem to realize.  In my situation, the reaction from my mother was much more negative than I could have ever imagined.   Hopefully, your situation will be much more positive than you could have imagined. 

Wishing you lots of luck and hope it goes well! :)
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Murbella

Don't worry about inaction, essentially I've got somewhat of a deadline set for myself already.  The wife, kids and I are taking a road trip in a month to see some national parks (if they're open ;D ), do some hiking and visit my family.  There still is the chance that I will chicken out, but I am doing my best to take care of this when I see them.  I have started talks with my therapist on how I feel it best to start the discussion with my family, and writing things out tends to help me flesh out my thoughts.  This kinda ended up well written and perhaps it might help others.  I know all about procrastination, as that is something I'm really making an effort to change about myself through this as well 

Thank you for reading :)

Robin Mack

Quote from: Murbella on October 04, 2013, 11:12:34 AM
...
  This kinda ended up well written and perhaps it might help others.  I know all about procrastination, as that is something I'm really making an effort to change about myself through this as well 

Thank you for reading :)

Thank you for writing this, Murbella.  Your have organized many, many of the points that I have been collecting in preparation for coming out to my own mother.  From there, hopefully with her guidance, I will attempt to come out to the rest of the family.  In one convenient location, you have outlined beautifully the reasons it is important for a trans* person to transition.  I greatly appreciate your candor and your willingness to share.

*hug*
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izzy

You are very insightful and i like your thinking. Problem with my family is they have gendered me for so long, I feel when I come out they want believe me at all that I am female. I think the only way to prove to family you are in fact trans is by living it and being happy, but family itself creates roadblocks, with expectations of what you should do or be who you are based on the gender they percieve. I would like to come out to my mom next week. i just cant do it now with all the wedding anniversaries coming this week, i dont want to make them angry on a happy day. At the same time, I feel like depressed for keeping it a secret.
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Robin Mack

Quote from: izzy on October 04, 2013, 02:28:17 PM
You are very insightful and i like your thinking. Problem with my family is they have gendered me for so long, I feel when I come out they want believe me at all that I am female. I think the only way to prove to family you are in fact trans is by living it and being happy, but family itself creates roadblocks, with expectations of what you should do or be who you are based on the gender they percieve. I would like to come out to my mom next week. i just cant do it now with all the wedding anniversaries coming this week, i dont want to make them angry on a happy day. At the same time, I feel like depressed for keeping it a secret.

*hug*  I know the feeling.  I feel bad all day, every day at work, knowing that as soon as my contract is up I'm leaving this place.  I also have pretty much cut myself off from my family because *I* could not be honest with *myself* about who I am... but I knew that even just my bisexual nature would be painful to my mother/the rest of the family given their puritanical beliefs.  Now I'm committed to a path of transition, and I *must* at least come out to my mother (my only surviving parent).  If for no other reason than that now I *know* why I've dropped out of her life, and she deserves an opportunity at least to be a part of my new one. 

She may very well reject the new me... I believe her religious views will compel her to reject the idea that I am her daughter and have always been.  But at least I will have tried... and, who knows?  She may very well surprise me, as she has a habit of doing when given the chance.

*hugs*
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izzy

Quote from: robinmack on October 04, 2013, 02:44:50 PM
*hug*  I know the feeling.  I feel bad all day, every day at work, knowing that as soon as my contract is up I'm leaving this place.  I also have pretty much cut myself off from my family because *I* could not be honest with *myself* about who I am... but I knew that even just my bisexual nature would be painful to my mother/the rest of the family given their puritanical beliefs.  Now I'm committed to a path of transition, and I *must* at least come out to my mother (my only surviving parent).  If for no other reason than that now I *know* why I've dropped out of her life, and she deserves an opportunity at least to be a part of my new one. 

She may very well reject the new me... I believe her religious views will compel her to reject the idea that I am her daughter and have always been.  But at least I will have tried... and, who knows?  She may very well surprise me, as she has a habit of doing when given the chance.

*hugs*
hugs to you, she may not reject you as what you may think. She might be upset with you for awhile but she may not cut off contact with you. I think that is a hard thing to do for a parent no matter how strong their religous beliefs are. I dont know too much about my mom and sisters reaction. But I have a good reason for one or another, they will eventually come through. I have a lot of faith in that now.
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Murbella

And an update!

Just got back from our whirlwind 2 and a half week long vacation to some national parks and visit family and friends.  This was also used as an opportunity for me to have the talk with people important to me.  It went mostly as expected...  mostly ;-p

I have 8 weeks of extra paid vacation from work for every 7 years of employment as a sabbatical, and we used to take the two little cute ones on their first road trip.  As planned, we would be away from home for a bit less than 3 weeks.  Starting in Portland, we made a grand loop of half the country.  Through eastern Oregon (wife's father), Idaho (wife's grandfather and aunt), Yellowstone (stinky water park, as my toddler now calls it), Colorado (my family), Moab (I love Arches National Park), Vegas (friends, not gambling), San Diego (pick up wife's brother), and finally Sacramento to see our new nephew (so cute!).  The wife picked up the stomach flu in Colorado, which hit me in Moab, and spread to our daughters in Vegas.  It was fun.

As for my special news... my father was first on the receiving end.  He kept smiling and didn't seem all that phased when I finally blurted out that I am transgender.  He is currently kinda dating a psychology professor who specializes in women's issues, transwomen included, and apparently the subject had been talked about before (not in reference to myself) as he had some understanding.  His concern of course was that I not do anything permanent that I would regret, but he was supportive and didn't say anything hurtful.  We hugged and he had to leave for a trip to Europe.

Next... the talk with my mother.  A few days later in the basement of the family home going through my old things, I say my mother down and told her.  She cried.  I was correct in my earlier post about blame.  She blamed my dad, my wife, my moving to liberal Portland, and my therapist.  She thinks that my childhood has messed me up, and my life after I moved away from her had put all sorts of silly ideas in my head.  She wants me to get a second opinion and fix the other things that are wrong with me causing me to think that I am transgender.  I did what I could to educate her on the issue, and how being transgender is far more frequently the underlying condition for other mental health concerns and not the other way around.  How those who are transgender, or any other form of queer, are born that way and while upbringing does shape who a person ends up being, general innate gender expression and attraction are established far earlier.  I don't think my message has taken hold.  She worries about my health if I start hormones and did her best to scare me away with threats of cancer.  Even through all this though, she made it apparent that she loves me and all her worries, narrow minded as they might be, were coming from a place of genuine concern for me.  She wants me to be happy and I do think she will be supportive, I just might have to drag her through some steps.

Then I talked to my sisters.  They were surprised yet supportive.  One thinks I have a hormone imbalance, I joked "yes, too much testosterone and not enough estrogen."  The other pointed out that I hate shopping, too which I replied "I hate shopping for boy clothes."  Then they each said something stupid.  One uttered the standard "but you will make for a very ugly woman,"  yes this helps me a lot, I wish all people were so supportive.  The other asked if I had contemplated suicide, when I replied in the negative she responded "good, I didn't think you were that selfish."  I then had to illustrate to her how that was the last thing you should ever say to someone dealing with any level of depression.  They now also want to come visit, and see my therapist with me, and I can't tell if this is out off a desire to better understand what I am going through, or this a mission from mom to evaluate the quack who filling my head with crazy thoughts being a girl.  Either way, probably will still be a useful appointment.

As for other updates, still just working on body hair right now.  The Tria home laser thingy appears to be working as the hair on my legs and torso that I've been zapping is getting patchy and thinning out.  So I have that going for me.  The hair my head is probably 4-5 inches now, but being very thick and curly means it's very puffed out looks stupid.  After all the coming out I've done, a new wave of doubt has hit me, but that seems to have subsided now that I'm back home.  Next up on my list of things to do; find a new doctor who I stick with post transition, find a hair stylist who can lend me tips on styles that I can use to flip between boy and girl mode, and possibly think about voice therapy.

That's it for now
<3
Murbella

Robin Mack

*hug*  Congratulations.  You've just taken another HUGE step!  No more hiding, no more excuses not to show the world the woman you are.  It sounds like your father is at least cautiously in your corner, and your mother is defensive of you, but still loves you.  Your sisters, well, they're understandably a bit shaken up... but you made it through the gauntlet alive.

Please take some time to be patient with yourself now... doubts are natural, but as others have discovered, most of the huge barriers to revealing your true self are phantoms and ghosts, nothing tangible.  With determination you can overcome them.

You obviously care for your family, and that speaks well of you.  You also have the self respect and determination to stick to your plan and work with your family members in spite of themselves...

You are a formidable woman, indeed!  You should be very, very proud.  I look forward to watching your transition with great interest!

*hug*
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Felice Aislin

Thank you, Murbella, Izzy & Robin.  I found reading this very helpful. 
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The love of my life is the most beautiful woman I've ever met, and it took extraordinary bravery for her to give me the privilege and joy of getting to know this about her
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Felice Aislin

Oops, learningtolive, I didn't mean to leave you out!  (hugs) :)
The love of my life is the most beautiful woman I've ever met, and it took extraordinary bravery for her to give me the privilege and joy of getting to know this about her
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Murbella

Felice!  Reading some of your other posts and you are the first recomendation I saw for the book "Whipping Gir" which I loved.  I'm glad my ramblings were helpful to you.