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Feel like flunking out of my third trial of HRT =/

Started by Ultimus, December 02, 2013, 12:04:08 AM

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Ultimus

Quote from: musicofthenight on December 02, 2013, 03:30:08 PM
Ultimus, the kicker is that you're not comfortable with your fantasies, you wish you didn't have them, they're not you.  They are "ego-dystonic thoughts," in psychological jargon.

It's entirely possible your gender identity might not be typically male.  But I think the distress you're feeling is keeping you from identifying yourself to your satisfaction.

So, let's talk about intrusive thoughts.  They're part of anxiety disorders, especially OCD.  Medication has some effect, but the current best treatment is behavioral therapy.

The outline typically goes something like this
- identifying what triggers these fantasies
- deciding what you want your reaction to be 
- practicing it so that
- it becomes a habit and
- you feel confident that your intrusive thoughts don't define or control you

As that confidence builds, I think you'll be ready to decide how little or how much to transition.


From what I've read it's all too common for this sexual-identity subtype of OCD to be misdiagnosed.  Please look into it and bring it up with a therapist, okay?

That's really good advice, thank you. And that's something I have never looked into before. Coincidentally enough, I happen to see both my psychiatrist and therapist on Wednesday. I will bring this up and see what they think.

Perhaps the psychiatrist will try medication and the therapist can try the cognitive behavior therapy.

Honestly, I don't want to let my crossdreaming and crossdressing define me. They are such a small fraction of life as a whole.

But thanks again, and I can report back what they say.
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Dana88


Quote from: Ultimus on December 02, 2013, 04:06:17 PM
That's really good advice, thank you. And that's something I have never looked into before. Coincidentally enough, I happen to see both my psychiatrist and therapist on Wednesday. I will bring this up and see what they think.

Perhaps the psychiatrist will try medication and the therapist can try the cognitive behavior therapy.

Honestly, I don't want to let my crossdreaming and crossdressing define me. They are such a small fraction of life as a whole.

But thanks again, and I can report back what they say.

Yep! Exactly. I was gonna say for me, my cross-sex fantasies tend to be quite positive. Sometimes when I lucid dream and I'm a girl in the dream I just don't want to get up because I'm so content in that moment, and then when I do get up I get depressed that it was all a dream. So if dreams like that cause you upset and anxiety that may be a sign that as was previously said, that it's because it feels somehow adverse to your actual gender identity.

For me I often have doubts about transitioning, but most are linked to external factors (will I pass? what will others think? can I deal with potential discrimination?) but if I could snap my fingers and magically be completely female I would do it in a heartbeat without ever looking back. That alone says something. It's the actual act of transitioning that scares me and occasionally instills doubt, however I know for sure that I'm not a man so I don't really have a choice since trying to be one has gotten increasingly difficult. So if you feel that male identity fits you and you are a man, but the crossdreaming bothers you, then it probably is more of a psychological issue than an identity one.

All of this said, I think that there's a general avoidance of talking about sex with trans people. Sex being at all a motivator for transition has become taboo and because of this I at one point convinced myself I just must have a fetish and that's that. I am attracted to men and always have been, and even now pre-transition, the idea of being a woman having sex with a man turns me on. So I would always masturbate thinking about that and then I would feel guilty afterwards. So I was like, well I fit right into the crossdresser box. But it ignored that my desire to be female still continued despite orgasm, and it was not driven by a compulsion to dress up, have an orgasm and then go back to being a man. Eventually I sorta went... Girls have a sex drive and sexual fantasies. Straight girls fantasize about having sex. So if I'm female identifying, my desire to have sex as a woman doesn't mean that my issues are a compulsion or fetishistic in nature. Now of course it becomes problematic if, the idea of being a woman having sex with a man turns you on and your motivation to transition is to fulfill a purely sexual fantasy. In my case it was that I convinced myself it was just a sexual fantasy, partially to avoid transitioning and convince myself I didn't need to, but in fact sexual desire was just one part of my altogether female identity.

I guess what I'm trying to get at here is! O:-) don't feel the need to put yourself in a box. There's no checklist of what makes someone trans or not, or a paraphiliac or not, or whether transition is right for someone or not. I think that exploring the OCD aspect is definitely worth it, as it seems like from what you're saying, the crossdreaming partially bugs you because it seems at odds with your gender identity.

Good luck!
~Dana
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Dana88

Oh also! There's an OCD/GID thread floating around which may be helpful for you. I can't link it cause I'm writing from an iPhone app, but it's in the mtf transsexual board.
~Dana
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Jamie D

Quote from: kiaraja on December 02, 2013, 11:24:54 AM
i agree with shelly, i kind of believe you're probably not transgender and your just a crossdress, if you don't want to fully live your life as a female in every aspect(everything other than sexually),

when your fantasizing about being a woman, its just like when someone is fantasizing about sleeping with someone of the opposite sex, its a role play fantasy not a lifestyle like being transgender, being transgender is when you feel icky everyone tells you look like a handsome man, and you just secretly hate yourself for being that way, or you just don't want to partake in certain "boy" typical hobbies,

if this is not the case then it will probably a medication issue, when i was on cyproterone my trans feelings when away, or they just got overshadowed by depression, when i started hrt the second on this time on spironolactone i felt much better and i feel amazing since then, 8 months later

hope that helped

Whoa Nelly!  You just eliminated a good portion of the transgender community with that definition.  :(

First, on this site, crossdressers are part of the transgender community.

So are those who identify as non-binary or androgyne.

Hobbies have little to do with gender identity.  "Boy" hobbies and "girl" hobbies are largely a social construct.

For the purposes of this site, transgender is described as:

(T)he state of one's "gender identity" (self-identification as woman, man, or neither) not matching one's "assigned sex" (identification by others as male or female based on physical/genetic sex). "Transgender" does not imply any specific form of sexual orientation; transgender people may identify as heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, pansexual, polysexual, or asexual.
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LizMarie

One issue that some experienced trans therapists see is the patient who thinks they are trans, gets on HRT, starts to feel better, thinks they are cured, stops HRT, goes back to living male, then becomes dysphoric again, and requests HRT. This cycle can happen repeatedly. I am not suggesting this is you, Ultimus, but it's something to consider.
The meaning of life is to find your gift. The purpose of life is to give it away.



~ Cara Elizabeth
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Madison (kiara jamie)

Quote from: LizMarie on December 09, 2013, 04:01:28 PM
One issue that some experienced trans therapists see is the patient who thinks they are trans, gets on HRT, starts to feel better, thinks they are cured, stops HRT, goes back to living male, then becomes dysphoric again, and requests HRT. This cycle can happen repeatedly. I am not suggesting this is you, Ultimus, but it's something to consider.

thats my story, i won't be stopping ever again


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