Re: The sticky

[chuck]

I petition that the sticky is removed for inaccuracy. Anyone else on board? Mods? As a post meta and post phallo guy, I am willing to collaborate for a new and accurate sticky.

[Adam (birkin)]

I agree 100%

[Devlyn]

I suggest that it be left for historical perspective. Start a new thread and request that it be stickied as well? Hugs, Devlyn

[aleon515]

I suggest that it be left for historical perspective. Start a new thread and request that it be stickied as well? Hugs, Devlyn

Well Devlyn, what kind of message does that give, unless you could say "FOR HISTORY SAKE". I personally don't agree with this view. If you want a history of trans surgeries, you can google it.

--Jay

[Devlyn]

I'm not knowledgeable enough about the procedure, are we talking about something that was wrong when it was written, or something that is now outdated? And I must disagree that Susan's wouldn't be the place for a history of trans surgeries, we're a resource and support site for transgender issues.

Hugs, Devlyn

[Adam (birkin)]

I'm not knowledgeable enough about the procedure, are we talking about something that was wrong when it was written, or something that is now outdated?

Edit: forgot to state right out - I think it's both wrong and outdated, depending on which part you talk about, and I think even keeping outdated info is a bad idea, this is why

It's just that something I have noticed that is prevalent in online FTM circles is misinformation about surgery - many people spread things like "if you have phalloplasty you will have no sensation, you will have tons of scarring, it's not realistic looking or functional..." but they say this having done limited research. They look at phallos that are very old, or that are in the first stages of healing, and make a snap judgment about what the end product is going to look like. If you talk to actual guys who have had phallo and have healed, most will say they have sensation and can orgasm, that the scars heal, and the penis is realistic looking and functions well for their purposes.

I know that as someone who was initially researching phallo, I came across a lot of this old information, or snap conclusions that were spouted as truth, and I was very depressed thinking that was my only option. Knowing the newer, and more accurate, info about phallo literally gave me a lot to look forward to. This information is not as easy to find because a lot of guys don't want to share phallo results now because guys look at the semi-healed versions and bash the results without knowing more about the procedure. I think keeping an old thread would really just help to continue spreading misinformation on the topic. Trans men need to know what is available now, not was they could have had 20 years ago type of thing.

[aleon515]

I'm not knowledgeable enough about the procedure, are we talking about something that was wrong when it was written, or something that is now outdated? And I must disagree that Susan's wouldn't be the place for a history of trans surgeries, we're a resource and support site for transgender issues.

Hugs, Devlyn

Wrong and outdated. I don't have a problem with history in this site, I said google it because it's my response to stuff like that. But if it's historical you could have a history section but it shouldn't be a sticky that everybody reads coming in and doesn't know it's a historical reference. I'm more of an advocate here and less of a patient, in the sense that I am not a surgery candidate here. But I need accurate info to refer other people to, and some outmoded reference.


--Jay

[Devlyn]

OK, thanks for explaining it, guys. Hugs, Devlyn