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Started by Annaiyah, December 04, 2013, 03:51:27 PM

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Annaiyah

So I practiced my female walking patterns today.

I learned that as men walk with their legs and feet farther apart than women at a faster speed, that is what keeps their pelvis in that straight V shape. So with that said, it's not unreasonable to think that as women walk with their legs and feet closer together than men at a slower speed, that is what keeps their pelvis wide in a more circular shape.

In my practice today, my legs and muscles did ache a little and it did get a little sloppy at times but that's only because my body isn't yet used to my woman walk but it will become second nature if I do it long enough.

But do any of you think my woman walk can broaden my pelvis a little?
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Isabelle

Just walk however comes naturally to you... "Putting a walk on" will just look weird.
I doubt anything will change your pelvis.
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Just Shelly

I don't know if I walk like a typical female.....I never tried to walk any differently...but I know I don't walk like a typical guy!! As far as speed....this is just a per person type of trait. I am a fast walker, have rarely seen anyone walk faster than I....until recently. Two women from work walk as fast in not faster than I....or maybe I'm just slowing down in my old age :)
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saznat

I was once asked what was different between the way males and females walk. I found that showing the person concerned this http://www.bml.psyc.queensu.ca/Demos/BMLwalker.html got the image across better than any wordy explanations!
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Christine167

You can train yourself to walk like woman/girl. I attended a class for it while at SCC. Even before then I picked up on different walks in ROTC by marching in coed units.

Not sure of where one might find good lessons on the topic but I'm sure that I just haven't searched the internet enough yet.  ;)
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Mogu

Quote from: saznat on December 17, 2013, 04:16:52 PM
I was once asked what was different between the way males and females walk. I found that showing the person concerned this http://www.bml.psyc.queensu.ca/Demos/BMLwalker.html got the image across better than any wordy explanations!
Yes. This I looked at closely for a bit, I'd recommend it for anyone trying to learn.

Generally I just keep my legs more together, trying to step more inward instead of outward, look up instead of down (if safe).

Most likely walking will not change your pelvis.
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Mx Pippa

Quote from: saznat on December 17, 2013, 04:16:52 PM
I was once asked what was different between the way males and females walk. I found that showing the person concerned this http://www.bml.psyc.queensu.ca/Demos/BMLwalker.html got the image across better than any wordy explanations!

That's just magic Saznat, one of the best links ever. Thank you. I do tend to think these things are so important, I think if you do go over the top, yes it will look silly. I found Denae Doyle very good @ http://www.femimage.com/

My personnel advise is just to make sure that your inner legs always bush each other around the knee area, as you walk. I also find that on walking home at night the shadow cast by the street lights help me to get my hips just nice. Don,t know if it helps develop them much, but often thought about it.
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Ms Grace

I find posture plays a big part. Generally though when I'm walking behind a woman in the street (not directly behind, maybe ten meters or so) I'll try to mimic the way she's walking for a little while, just to get the feel for it. I try to make sure there aren't too many other people behind me or coming in the opposite direction though!
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V M

Quote from: saznat on December 17, 2013, 04:16:52 PM
I was once asked what was different between the way males and females walk. I found that showing the person concerned this http://www.bml.psyc.queensu.ca/Demos/BMLwalker.html got the image across better than any wordy explanations!

Very interesting and helpful  8)
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Ms Grace

Quote from: AnnaiyahStarr on December 04, 2013, 03:51:27 PM
I learned that as men walk with their legs and feet farther apart than women at a faster speed, that is what keeps their pelvis in that straight V shape. So with that said, it's not unreasonable to think that as women walk with their legs and feet closer together than men at a slower speed, that is what keeps their pelvis wide in a more circular shape.
Actually I'd wager that men and women walk the way they do because of the shape of their pelvis, rather than to create the shape in the first place.
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Shawna777

You would be using/developing different muscles than your normal walk...
I used to walk with my toes pointed out then after a serious back injury my Chiro adjusted my pelvic bone and over the next few weeks and after several adjustments I found it harder on my legs but now my feet pointed straight
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SciNerdGirl

Quote from: saznat on December 17, 2013, 04:16:52 PM
I was once asked what was different between the way males and females walk. I found that showing the person concerned this http://www.bml.psyc.queensu.ca/Demos/BMLwalker.html got the image across better than any wordy explanations!

This is like the best demonstration of the differences between male and female walking.  While seeing the difference is an important first step, there are some techniques that I have found to improve my feminine movement.

1. VERY IMPORTANT.  Don't try to force yourself to make your hips sway when you walk.  If you do, it will look awkward and forced and you will look like a man, trying to walk like a woman.

2.  Learn to walk properly in heels.  There are tons of videos on how to do this properly (start low and slowly work up).  Properly walking in heels forces your gait into a natural feminine form.  To walk gracefully in heels, you need will need to walk with your feet in front of one another, rather than side-by-side.  It's a lot like walking on a balance beam.

3. Stretch, stretch, stretch.  Women are naturally more flexible than men, and this flexibility shows in how they walk.  Especially the hip flexors and outer thighs.

4. Dance.  Most women love dancing (and it shows in their natural movements).  Most men hate dancing (and it shows in their natural movements).

5. don't ignore your arms when walking.  Men tend to swing their arms at the shoulders and women tend to swing their arms at the elbows.

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Ashey

Quote from: Ms Grace on December 18, 2013, 05:48:00 AM
Actually I'd wager that men and women walk the way they do because of the shape of their pelvis, rather than to create the shape in the first place.

Probably. As wide as my pelvis is, I could never walk like a guy. It'd always end up like a weird waddle, or like an awkward ape. I guess that's hard to explain. xD But it caused me grief when I was closeted around my parents, because I didn't want them seeing me walk in a feminine way while trying to hide that side of me from them, even if I naturally walked that way. It made me really paranoid and self-conscious. And in fact, they DID notice at times when I slipped, and mentioned it when I came out. I was so mortified! But yeah, I walk with my legs pointing inward, and in more or less a line, while my whole pelvic region 'wobbles' around, and walking that way gives me so much more balance. Crossing my legs and moving my hips one way or the other helps me turn, instead of I guess leading with my shoulders? I really can't understand how guys walk, and never became good at it. And trying to turn corners is the worst when trying to walk like a guy. >_< So glad I'm out to my parents, I can walk normally around them for once.
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noleen111

Learning to walk in heels is important.. That was the only adjustment to my style of walking.

Learning to walk in heels takes practice and practice.. As mentioned before.. Plenty of videos online

I wear heels virtually daily.. As my work uniform has 3inch heels as part of the uniform. I work in a upmarket clothing store. My feet are use to them and don't really hurt in heels. I can even run in heels. My roommate says I seem so natural in heels, it's like I have been wearing them all my life. I only tried my first pair on 5 years ago.
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anjaq

Quote from: noleen111 on December 20, 2013, 04:44:42 AM
Learning to walk in heels is important.. That was the only adjustment to my style of walking.
If you want to wear heels you need to practice probably, just like every woman does. I saw some women who did not and it looks totally awful. I try to avoid heels, they are just a pain

Quote from: Ms Grace on December 18, 2013, 05:48:00 AM
Actually I'd wager that men and women walk the way they do because of the shape of their pelvis, rather than to create the shape in the first place.
Yes - and I think this is a key issue - sadly for most the pelvis will probably be different and the changes with HT even with progesterone are not massive. For me I found that I do probably not have the smallest pelvis and I have changed a lot in muscle and fat patterns to get a different weigth distribution and center of gravity. So I think what totally made sens to me and maybe to someone else is not to think this through and try to analyze female walks now - it would be like acting and thats not good - rather do some mimicking like young girls do when they look at other women and just do what they do with time. But the most important thing for me was to focus on your pelvis while walking and "walk with your pelvis". Imagine yourself to have an "extreme female" bodya shape with very wide hips and strong legs but only little weight above that, focus on a low center of gravity just a bit under the waistline. for me that worked great - basically I did not change that much but I just became more aware of my body and used its abilities and made myself aware of the female body shape which I was trained not to do through years of not having that and not being allowed to think of myself as having it.

A fun fact was that once I did that focus on the pelvis and allowing it to move freely when walking, I suddenly walked a lot faster than before, when I could barely keep up with other people walking LOL.

As with many things - see it as a liberation of your own way to act and not as something that has to be trained or analyzed. Act with "feel" rather than with "think".

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