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I'm finally coming out

Started by codepink, July 05, 2007, 11:17:30 PM

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codepink

This is my very first post so first I feel like I should say:
I am gal and I was born that way but I've always felt boyish. I have very short hair and I would say that my fashion is a bit more boyish. I am NEVER mistaken for a man but people just assume that I am a lesbian.

For a long time, I've tried to deny how I felt inside. In the past couple of years I have cut out many bad influences and other who just didn't understand including a lot of family. I have surrounded myself with people that I feel comfortable with being myself.
I now dress and act how I feel inside.
I am really really proud of myself but I find at times that I am still lonely and I've been single for too long.
Does anyone have any dating advice? I feel way too uncomfortable approaching men.
Thanks!
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Laurry

Quote from: codepink on July 05, 2007, 11:17:30 PM
This is my very first post so first I feel like I should say:
I am gal and I was born that way but I've always felt boyish. I have very short hair and I would say that my fashion is a bit more boyish. I am NEVER mistaken for a man but people just assume that I am a lesbian.

Welcome, CP!  Glad you found your way to Susan's.  Take some time to look around, ask lots of questions and, when you get a chance, you may want to expand your introduction in the Intro section.

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For a long time, I've tried to deny how I felt inside. In the past couple of years I have cut out many bad influences and other who just didn't understand including a lot of family. I have surrounded myself with people that I feel comfortable with being myself.
I now dress and act how I feel inside.

There is a real peace in giving up the denial and accepting ourselves as we are.

At the risk of being blunt, how do you feel inside?  Do you feel like a male, female, both, neither?  I admire your spirit and the actions you have taken to dress and act how you feel inside, but since my mind-reading act went bankrupt, I have to ask.

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I am really really proud of myself but I find at times that I am still lonely and I've been single for too long.
Does anyone have any dating advice? I feel way too uncomfortable approaching men.
Thanks!

Sorry CP, but I don't have any experience trying to date men.  However, I have lived a considerable portion of my life pretending to be one, so I would just suggest you start talking to one.  Talk about sports, weather, television...anything that breaks the ice.  A little friendly flirting never hurts.  If he is interested, he will take it from there...if not, think of it as practice toward getting over your awkwardness.

Hope this helps a little, and again, welcome to Susan's

........Laurry
Ya put your right foot in.  You put your right foot out.  You put your right foot in and you shake it all about.  You do the Andro-gyney and you turn yourself around.  That's what it's all about.
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RebeccaFog

Hi Codepink,

   I am a malebodied androgyne who is neither man nor woman. It is a very odd place to be. Your post reminded me that I couldn't approach girls or women when I was young. i could talk to them, but I had no clue at how to initiate romance.

  I got lucky (literally) one night and the woman seems to have been 'the one'. We've been together for 2 decades now.  I don't have any advice on how to meet men for you. I guess, just stay comfortable with yourself, find a few hobbies that might lead you to meeting men with the same interest and see what happens.

  Laurry is right about making a formal introduction in Introduction. It's a better way to announce to people that you are here.

Peace,

Rebecca
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sparkles

hi codepink great to have you on bourd, im sure you`ll settle right in here. everyones real friendly and the pace is just right to keep up with stuff.

hugs
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Pica Pica

Here's hoping things go smoothly. As for dating, no advice here - I always end up making a new friend. Damnit.
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Tay

Welcome.

Dating?  Hm... I suspect I'm the androgyne with the most dates in here (no offense guys, but being engaged to one person and Owned by another tends to get you that, and I could be wrong about having the most).

All I can offer is an OLD cliché.  Common interests.  Just keep going to common interest groups, join online clubs... Eventually, you'll find someone.  That's how I got both of my partners.
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Kendall

Hi Codepink,
QuoteDoes anyone have any dating advice? I feel way too uncomfortable approaching men.
I'll try my best to give advice based on other info in your post.

QuoteI am gal and I was born that way but I've always felt boyish. I have very short hair and I would say that my fashion is a bit more boyish. I am NEVER mistaken for a man but people just assume that I am a lesbian.

For a long time, I've tried to deny how I felt inside. In the past couple of years I have cut out many bad influences and other who just didn't understand including a lot of family. 

You know who you are, have your own expression, and feel comfortable with being yourself. Thats I think the first step in any relationship: Knowing yourself: self-awareness, self-acceptance, self-confidence, and self-image. All these things you have.

QuoteI have surrounded myself with people that I feel comfortable with being myself.

Second I think is knowing the details in potential mates, Knowing who they are, could be, or will be. Know that you know who you are, what type of person are you attracted to? What type of personality is good with you, who fits with you, who can you enjoy everyday, who is attractive to you?

Third look at people that already know you first. Look at the people around you, see who is available, that might fit in with your personality type, that knows you for who you are.

Fourth, Or if there is no one, its time to meet new people that still fit into your compatible personality type. If this is the case, besides getting to know you, revealing who you are will be part of the getting to know each other, a test of knowledge. So there is sorta a test of getting to know each other, from trivial at first, to deeply, if you find each other clicking (compatibility). Finding out if they are available, there must be a test of availibility, unless you plan on taking the offense to "steal" a mate away from someone else.  Besides the additional test of compatibility, meeting new people will require a test of acceptance (vs those that already know, are compatibile, and accept you) .

Fifth is to be or go to places where others, especially higher number of compatible/available candidates might be.
You have surrounded yourself with people that feel comfortable being yourself. I would start there. In this group of people, is there anyone that catches your interest?

QuoteDoes anyone have any dating advice? I feel way too uncomfortable approaching men.

If approaching and asking out on dates isnt your thing, try approaching and just talking. Get to know potential people, and share something about yourself. It can start out small, like bumping into each other. Or asking about something. Asking for help. Maybe ask one general question. Then you can try bumping in again, see if there is any response.  Or casually invite to something like eat together, study together, work together, or just hang out together. You might find out if they are available, compatible, and accepting all within these few encounters. As well as get to know a little about them.

Try doing things, social gatherings, and community events that naturally draws together people that feel naturally compatible with you. And dont be afraid to ask for or give out phone numbers, or introducing yourself. Or just talking to each other.

If there is any spark, then you can naturally pour on the effort and do some common things together.

Like the song said "love is a battlefield".

KK
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RebeccaFog

Quote from: Tay on July 07, 2007, 12:14:44 PM
Welcome.

Dating?  Hm... I suspect I'm the androgyne with the most dates in here (no offense guys, but being engaged to one person and Owned by another tends to get you that, and I could be wrong about having the most).

All I can offer is an OLD cliché.  Common interests.  Just keep going to common interest groups, join online clubs... Eventually, you'll find someone.  That's how I got both of my partners.

your smugness has prompted me to purchase you from your owner and transfer the deed over to William Shatner.  :o
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