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Started by Bimmer Guy, December 28, 2013, 10:42:57 AM

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Bimmer Guy

Quote from: Brett on March 25, 2015, 11:09:21 PM
It will get better.  unfortunately, some part of mine stayed pink in color.

Quote from: Elijah on March 26, 2015, 12:11:55 AM
My nipples had discoloration too. Dr G said that it was hyper pigmentation. Pre Op they were pink in color, now one of them is mostly pink and the other is half pink, half brownish pink in color. I first noticed this about 1-2 months in, and Its still there, unfortunately time has not changed it. It kinda bums me out but I'm still just grateful to have had surgery.

I got it backwards.  I meant to say that unfortunately mine stayed brown in some areas.  Like you mine are pink with brown.

Quote from: makipu on March 28, 2015, 10:24:50 AM
So I got ScarGuard (what I was told to get) and the smell is just unbearable. Not only do I need to put on a mask but I need to protect my eyes too because I get this burning sensation.
And it peels off within minutes of application so how do I even know if it's doing its thing?  I noticed it being more expensive than all the other products available at the stores too but it's so inconvenient.

By the way, I was told to start scar therapy after 1 month (I am not sure why the wait time was because isn't starting sooner the better?)

Anyways before I even started scar care, I noticed what seems like hyper tropic scars ONLY on the edge areas (where the arms are) of the incisions and not anywhere else.  I am just worried that it will take over the entire incisions because I don't even know what caused it in the first place. 

Do you guys think using hypertropic scar specific product like Kelocote as soon as possible not just on those areas but the normal looking parts would help more in terms of preventing it from occurring more?

I would strongly, strongly, strongly suggest using kelocote.  It will not only help with keeping the regular scarring from happening, but it will help if your scars start to go hypertrophic as well.  Scar Guard is crap.

The other one that a lot of guys used (and I used for the first 6 months) was Scar Away.  I think this is a fine choice, but if I had to do it over again, I would use the Kelo cote, due to my hypertrophic scarring.  Thing is though, you can't keep hypertrophic scarring from happening.  If it is going happen it is going to happen, but it may be relieved a bit, or not be as bad if you use the Kelo cote.  I still use the Kelo cote daily.

Garramone said start scar tx two weeks after bandages come off, which equals to 4 weeks from day of surgery.

Top Surgery: 10/10/13 (Garramone)
Testosterone: 9/9/14
Hysto: 10/1/15
Stage 1 Meta: 3/2/16 (including UL, Vaginectomy, Scrotoplasty), (Crane, CA)
Stage 2 Meta: 11/11/16 Testicular implants, phallus and scrotum repositioning, v-nectomy revision.  Additional: Lipo on sides of chest. (Crane, TX)
Fistula Repair 12/21/17 (UPenn Hospital,unsuccessful)
Fistula Repair 6/7/18 (Nikolavsky, successful)
Revision: 1/11/19 Replacement of eroded testicle,  mons resection, cosmetic work on scrotum (Crane, TX)



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makipu

Yes,Scarguard is horrible. I wish they at least had the sheet form at the stores.  I was also looking at ScarAway because I personally prefer adhesive on the surgery site to have a visual protection (I am afraid if the incisions OR the nipples touch the clothing directly something bad will happen) but the mention of it being not sterile made me a bit hesitant.  Or is this fine?

Does Kelo-cote only come in gel form?

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I don't have to look or act like one therefore.
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AleksiJason

I wasn't holding it open for you, who holds the door open for a man?!?

Well I thought it was a nice gesture....BUT I GUESS I WAS WRONG!!!!!
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aleon515

It comes in only a gel type form. It's not too messy, also you use just a tiny bit. More is not better.

--Jay
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makipu

Thanks guys, I will get that next then. 

Can you guys recommend anything for the swelling to go down?  I am using Arnica cream for this whole time 3 times a day and I honestly can't say I see any difference. I even took pictures from how it was in the beginning to now but nothing.
I am male because I say so and nothing more.
I don't have to look or act like one therefore.
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aleon515

I believe arnica is effective for bruising but not necessarily for swelling. It just takes time, actually took a LONG time for me, months and months. NOt sure there is much to do with this. Time and patience. It WILL go away.

--Jay

Quote from: makipu on March 30, 2015, 09:23:38 PM
Thanks guys, I will get that next then. 

Can you guys recommend anything for the swelling to go down?  I am using Arnica cream for this whole time 3 times a day and I honestly can't say I see any difference. I even took pictures from how it was in the beginning to now but nothing.
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AleksiJason

You dont need any product for swelling.  Swelling is natural and goes away on its own.  It took me about 5 months post op for all my swelling to go down.  3 months for 90% of it to go away.
I wasn't holding it open for you, who holds the door open for a man?!?

Well I thought it was a nice gesture....BUT I GUESS I WAS WRONG!!!!!
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newyorker75

Quote from: Brett on March 28, 2015, 11:48:48 AM

I would strongly, strongly, strongly suggest using kelocote.  It will not only help with keeping the regular scarring from happening, but it will help if your scars start to go hypertrophic as well.  Scar Guard is crap.

The other one that a lot of guys used (and I used for the first 6 months) was Scar Away.  I think this is a fine choice, but if I had to do it over again, I would use the Kelo cote, due to my hypertrophic scarring.  Thing is though, you can't keep hypertrophic scarring from happening.  If it is going happen it is going to happen, but it may be relieved a bit, or not be as bad if you use the Kelo cote.  I still use the Kelo cote daily.


Brett, can you tell us more about why you think kelo-cote is better? I'm currently 3 months post-op and my scars are fairly red/purple and raised. Though there seems to be a lot of confusion between keloid vs hypertrophic, I'm almost certain these are hypertrophic (I guess the big difference is that keloids can spread to beyond the original wound site).

I've been using the ScarAway strips pretty religiously for the past two months so it's almost time to re-up my supply. That's why I'm curious about the advantages of kelo-cote. I also have the ScarAway gel but the strips are really convenient so I haven't used it much.

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aleon515

I don't think kelocote is better than the sheets. I think it is advantageous to do the sheets as they help keep the incision line flat. That said, I did go to the kelocote for various reasons. It certainly is easier, imo.

--Jay
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JandJ

Good Afternoon All -

I am both excited, and a little nervous to be joining this thread.  I'm not recovering yet, but I had my Pre-Op appointment yesterday :)  My surgery is scheduled for April 13th.  I am getting more nervous and antsy every day.  I find that my doctor's lack of interest in my medical soundness a little unnerving.  My doctor assumes his patients are healthy and does zero pre-op workup!  No lab work, no EKG, no Mamo, NOTHING!  I even reported that I have had blood clotting issues and they didn't even ask.  I have talked to a couple of local guys that have used this surgeon and all speak very highly of him, but I find it very odd and unsettling.  I am 50 and have never had a Mammogram.  I am actually fine with that part, but my family feels very uncomfortable that the surgeon is not requesting one.  I am most unsettled with the fact that they did not even ask about my clotting issues.  I was supposed to be on Coumidin for the rest of my life, but quit taking it about two years ago.  I do have a filter in place, so that allows me to feel somewhat OK, but still feel like they should have asked!  The surgeon does not even know that I have a filter or use to take Coumidin - only that I do not take it now.  I answered all the questions on the medical forms completely and honestly so I guess I should just be grateful that he is not ordering a bunch of tests that I don't need?  When I asked about lab work and mammogram at the consult I was told that 'we assume you are healthy'!  I have actually only spent about 5 minutes with the surgeon (combined time of my two office visits).  He seems very rushed and set in his ways to me.  He just recently decided to change his preparation to include having his FTM's stop taking their Testosterone two weeks prior to surgery.  I'm not thrilled about that!  He admitted that he is still undecided if he will keep this policy, but is evaluating the situation now.  His reasoning is that he has seen a lot of issues with hematoma's and THINKS he MIGHT see less of this problem if the T is stopped.   I also wanted to talk with him about the drains, as I know there are some surgeons that do not use them and my growths are less than a B cup.  I would have been a good candidate for a Peri procedure - had I had this done 30 years ago, before age and gravity started taking effect.  I know that most say the drains are the worst part of recovery.  Anyway, he would not even discuss it!  I did not even get to present my case before he cut me off and said it was not up for discussion!

At any rate...  I guess I just wanted to vent a little.  Thanks for listening.






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AleksiJason

I used ScarAway GEL for 7 months....I'm a year and 1 month post op now and my scars are completely flat and faded to the point they are barely noticeable

The strips are a waste of money.....they fall off and dont stick......they say u can take them off when u shower, wash them and put them back on and keep doing that with the same strips for 6 days.....but they dont stick for more than 8 hours before they start falling off

I used them for a few weeks and was leaving a trail of strips all over my house

The gel has no smell....its not uncomfortable and great for massaging your scars....washes off in the shower.....does not peel at all or become crusty....its like putting aloe gel on your scars
I wasn't holding it open for you, who holds the door open for a man?!?

Well I thought it was a nice gesture....BUT I GUESS I WAS WRONG!!!!!
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makipu

Quote from: AleksiJason on April 01, 2015, 02:35:58 PM


I used them for a few weeks and was leaving a trail of strips all over my house

This is what happened to me with Scarguard.
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I don't have to look or act like one therefore.
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aleon515

Advantages of ScarAway aka Kelocote. You stated them well.

--Jay

Quote from: AleksiJason on April 01, 2015, 02:35:58 PM
I used ScarAway GEL for 7 months....I'm a year and 1 month post op now and my scars are completely flat and faded to the point they are barely noticeable


The gel has no smell....its not uncomfortable and great for massaging your scars....washes off in the shower.....does not peel at all or become crusty....its like putting aloe gel on your scars
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MacG


Quote from: JandJ on April 01, 2015, 01:37:23 PM
Good Afternoon All -

I am both excited, and a little nervous to be joining this thread.  I'm not recovering yet, but I had my Pre-Op appointment yesterday :)  My surgery is scheduled for April 13th.  I am getting more nervous and antsy every day.  I find that my doctor's lack of interest in my medical soundness a little unnerving.  My doctor assumes his patients are healthy and does zero pre-op workup!  No lab work, no EKG, no Mamo, NOTHING!  I even reported that I have had blood clotting issues and they didn't even ask.  I have talked to a couple of local guys that have used this surgeon and all speak very highly of him, but I find it very odd and unsettling.  I am 50 and have never had a Mammogram.  I am actually fine with that part, but my family feels very uncomfortable that the surgeon is not requesting one.  I am most unsettled with the fact that they did not even ask about my clotting issues.  I was supposed to be on Coumidin for the rest of my life, but quit taking it about two years ago.  I do have a filter in place, so that allows me to feel somewhat OK, but still feel like they should have asked!  The surgeon does not even know that I have a filter or use to take Coumidin - only that I do not take it now.  I answered all the questions on the medical forms completely and honestly so I guess I should just be grateful that he is not ordering a bunch of tests that I don't need?  When I asked about lab work and mammogram at the consult I was told that 'we assume you are healthy'!  I have actually only spent about 5 minutes with the surgeon (combined time of my two office visits).  He seems very rushed and set in his ways to me.  He just recently decided to change his preparation to include having his FTM's stop taking their Testosterone two weeks prior to surgery.  I'm not thrilled about that!  He admitted that he is still undecided if he will keep this policy, but is evaluating the situation now.  His reasoning is that he has seen a lot of issues with hematoma's and THINKS he MIGHT see less of this problem if the T is stopped.   I also wanted to talk with him about the drains, as I know there are some surgeons that do not use them and my growths are less than a B cup.  I would have been a good candidate for a Peri procedure - had I had this done 30 years ago, before age and gravity started taking effect.  I know that most say the drains are the worst part of recovery.  Anyway, he would not even discuss it!  I did not even get to present my case before he cut me off and said it was not up for discussion!

At any rate...  I guess I just wanted to vent a little.  Thanks for listening.
I'm staying over night, will have leg compressors, and have a prescription for a couple shots of Lovenox to take after surgery. All this because I have a blood clotting issue. I've had one PE and am not on Coumadin.
I'm 44, had a recent mammo (mandatory for this surgery with my surgeon) and will have pre-op blood work done.
I don't understand your surgeons perspective. If YOU don't feel comfortable with him, I'd really reconsider using him.

AleksiJason

Quote from: aleon515 on April 01, 2015, 11:16:22 PM
Advantages of ScarAway aka Kelocote. You stated them well.

--Jay

ScarAway Gel is the same as Kelocote?  i wasnt aware of that.....anyways yes its extremely fantastic

ive had many surgeries in my life and im also an ex-cutter and my scars dont naturally heal well

but my top surgery scars are flatter and look better (more skin colored) than the scars i have from 10-15 years ago and im only a year post op

i didnt use anything on all my other scars and they still look terrible but my top surgery scars are seriously amazing
I wasn't holding it open for you, who holds the door open for a man?!?

Well I thought it was a nice gesture....BUT I GUESS I WAS WRONG!!!!!
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AleksiJason

I wasn't holding it open for you, who holds the door open for a man?!?

Well I thought it was a nice gesture....BUT I GUESS I WAS WRONG!!!!!
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AleksiJason



If this photo works u can see the scars lines near my armpits still have some slight color because the scars were thicker by my pits.....but my surgeon joined my scars in the middle of my chest....but u can see the scars arent noticeable in the middle of my chest

so about 85% of the scarline is not even noticeable right now
I wasn't holding it open for you, who holds the door open for a man?!?

Well I thought it was a nice gesture....BUT I GUESS I WAS WRONG!!!!!
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AleksiJason

I wasn't holding it open for you, who holds the door open for a man?!?

Well I thought it was a nice gesture....BUT I GUESS I WAS WRONG!!!!!
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Konnor

Alexsi, you have to upload your picture to a site like photobucket, then use the little photo icon on your post (above the smilies) to insert the image tag. Hope that helps!

In regards to scaraway gel vs Kelocote, why is Kelocote more expensive? I already got the scaraway strips, but would like to get a gel too. Any experiences of scaraway gel vs Kelocote gel, or am I fine to get the scaraway?
"It takes more courage to reveal insecurities than to hide them, more strength to relate to people than to dominate them, more manhood to abide by thought-out principles rather than blind reflex. Toughness is in the soul and spirit, not in muscles and an immature mind." --Alex Karras
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makipu

I just want to make sure I am going to buy the better product.  The actual Kelo-cote brand:
http://www.makemeheal.com/mmh/product.do?id=201180
is the one worked better for you guys?

While the Scar Away gel that mentions the word "Kelo-cote' http://www.target.com/p/scaraway-treatment-gel-20g/-/A-14092656 is just as effective?
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I don't have to look or act like one therefore.
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