Please tell me this hairloss can be reversed.

[l0nghairdontcare]

Yes everything is prescribed to me from my endo.

He never diagnosed me with hair loss he just said we could prevent it with Avodart.

Lupron Depot shuts down the testes so my body currently has orchiectomy level T, so although i do not take spiro my T is lower than if I did.

Do you think after my orchie I should take a small does of spiro as well as continue taking Dut?

Min is very not something I want to do unless I would have to to get regrowth. Plus I have heard it dosen't work on the hairline and can actually make people's hair loss worse.

[Jenna Marie]

I don't lie to people (if anything, I'm too blunt, which is why I am trying to learn to say nothing if I can't be nice!). I honestly cannot see what you're worried about. Your part looks like my wife's, and the shorter hairs are *normal* b/c when hair falls out - and it does so naturally when it hits the end of its life cycle - new hairs grow back in. For someone with long, straight, fine hair, that WILL stand out as short flyaway hairs. It's something I've seen in my wife for years and years.

This sounds like OCD, and while I sympathize totally, I'm wondering if some mild anti-anxiety medication might do more good than (in addition to) the anti-hair-loss regime. Crying until you vomit over something that other people can't even see isn't healthy, or good for you.

[l0nghairdontcare]

I don't lie to people (if anything, I'm too blunt, which is why I am trying to learn to say nothing if I can't be nice!). I honestly cannot see what you're worried about. Your part looks like my wife's, and the shorter hairs are *normal* b/c when hair falls out - and it does so naturally when it hits the end of its life cycle - new hairs grow back in. For someone with long, straight, fine hair, that WILL stand out as short flyaway hairs. It's something I've seen in my wife for years and years.

This sounds like OCD, and while I sympathize totally, I'm wondering if some mild anti-anxiety medication might do more good than (in addition to) the anti-hair-loss regime. Crying until you vomit over something that other people can't even see isn't healthy, or good for you.

Yes I can understand that the part may not look as bad as I had thought, but hair loss is progressive. Ask any bald man. I can guarantee you they had a full head of hair once. Hairloss can continue rapidly also. It may not look that bad today, but what about a month or year from now? or 5 years? That's what I am worried about. I know today it may not look completely awful but I do not know what will happen soon. This could be the first stages of it that aren't that noticeable that's why I am asking if it is early enough to reverse it.

Also I know a lot about hair. When it is thinning the hair becomes lighter and the growing phase shortens and the hair miniaturizes until it is gone. The hair that is shorter because it is being effected by MPB and its see through because it is thinning. If i was just a regular growth cycle there wouldn't be a large enough area to see a bunch of short hairs or any thinning, it would just look normal.

If i push against the top of my hair at the hairline and throught my scalp I can feel like there are many broken hair poking out against my finger, I am 99.9% sure that is because those hairs are being effected by DHT and the DHT shortened the growth cycle and is slowly thinning it.

I do have anxiety but I am anxious about this because I know whats happening and I feel so powerless and cant bare to see it continue.

The only thing that gives me any type of hope is that others seem to experience regrowth and a reversal of the thinning, but I do not know if I will. Its really terrifying.

I CANNOT pass without my own hair

[peky]

Well, I agree with everybody that your hair is just fine but that seems of little value to you...

So, here is a place where you can find some help

http://www.artashair.com/?gclid=CJLRmqLm77sCFYtQOgodGDIAjQ

I am sure they can fill your partition line...

Good luck!

[l0nghairdontcare]

@JordanBlue

I will post the message you personally sent me

"Yes, you're young but that's no excuse.  You're insulting every M2F who has REAL hair loss.
I don't appreciate it, but I don't run this forum.  If I did, you wouldn't be here. 
You need help."

I understand that maybe your hair loss is worse than mine and maybe you are bitter about it but that does not mean I do not deserve to be here.

It also does not mean that I do not have hair loss and that I shouldn't be allowed to ask about it.
One member already agreed that she saw some of my hair loss and what I was talking about.

Last I checked you were "outta here" anyways.

This is a place people come to when they HAVE no where else to go. I came here because my extreme fear of my hair loss has gotten to the point that I cannot function on a daily basis. My boyfriend is fed up with me talking about it to him and is getting really angry. I have lost all of my friends since transitioning. My family does not understand me. So I have NO ONE else to talk to about this except on this forum and another trans forum I post on as well.

I find it very offensive that you would personally attack me like this when you have no idea what I am going through. You don't know anything about my life. You know nothing.

Obviously this is a BIG issue for me. You know why?

I AM TRANSITIONING FROM MALE TO FEMALE!

I have a therapist I see weekly, I was taking xanax for 3 years for anxiety and have since gone off because it was effecting my health and mind.

You really do not know what is going on in anyone's life so before being mean and rude to someone especially in the way you did by sending me a message personally, which you obviously did because you knew you were saying something mean and rude you didn't want anyone else to see, you should take a step back and just leave your nasty comments to yourself.

[l0nghairdontcare]

@peky
No it actually means a lot, I went from being really upset to being rather calmed down about it.

I don't find the transplant thing very funny though...

[Thylacin]

@peky
No it actually means a lot, I went from being really upset to being rather calmed down about it.

I don't find the transplant thing very funny though...

I don't think that was meant as a joke.

Have you spoken to your therapist about your perceived hair loss?

[l0nghairdontcare]

@thylacin

I dont understand does that mean that I do need transplants for my part? That it is thinning as bad as I thought?

yes we have spoken about it many many times she just always tells me that i'm not loosing my hair and that I need to relax.

[SciNerdGirl]

Here is some perspective.

I started using minoxidil about 8 months ago.  I've also been using several other "experimental" topical treatments.  Additionally I have been on low dose spiro for about a month.  This is the progress:



I know it doesn't look like much, but the back top (sort of visible in the first picture) has filled in completely, and I'm seen a fair amount of new growth in the front (any amount in front is an improvement since it was fully bald before).  Hope Springs Eternal.

So,  l0nghairdontcare.  I appreciate how important your hair is and how hard it can be to loose it.  This was me in my 20s



I had resigned myself to loosing my hair at a young age (very bald family), so I didn't to anything to protect it, until recently.  Nevertheless, if you are starting Hormones now, you will never get to the point I'm at.

J.

[Cindy]

Your hair distribution is similar to how I started, except mine was also very short and grey to white

I had resigned myself to wearing wigs so I bought four of a style I liked so I could got 24/7 with them.

Just before I went FT I plucked up courage and went to a top class hair salon and explained my problem.

I said I would leave myself in their hands.

Now I get lots of comments about my hair from my female colleagues, all good, even jealous of the colour and styling I have.

I gave the wigs away!

So maybe try that approach, all women have variable hair and professionals know how to style it so we look our best.

I have a cute fringe, and the style covers my center bald bit, which I think has closed up and certainly isn't visible even after my hair is washed and still wet.

I take only Spiro and E.

So take it easy on your self!

Hugs

I think I look great and have no issues at all with my hair.

[LizMarie]

And here's another voice - if I had SciNerdGirl's head of hair, I'd be ecstatic, because that's enough to fill out via transplants to have a decent head of hair. And yes my losses are on the catastrophic side of things.

Now I am not trying to be nice at all, but in the photos that you've provided I see zero hair loss. I just don't see it.

If you are finding hairs in your comb, you're supposed to. Hairs are supposed to fall out. It's part of the normal stages they go through - anagen, catagen, telagen.

[pebbles]

It's difficult to tell in these photos but I'd say yes you did obviously you can tell better than most. I had a similar thing and it's gone now it might be worth tho adding a DHT blocker to your regime Finasteride or Dutastride.

[EmmaD]

I am Norwood 7 bald! Done, gone forever and there is only a slight chance I would get something close to a thinning male hair pattern after 1 but most likely 2 expensive transplants that would exhaust all my donor material.  So I have to face wearing wigs.  Would I give anything for your hair?  God yes, but I never will. Depressed? Nah.  Disappointed I didn't do something when the situation was recoverable?  You bet!  But I still have so much to look forward to.  Are you stressing out way too much?  I think so.  I can't see much other than variation common from one person to another.

If you are concerned (and you obviously are), get on Fin or Dut.  Fin doesn't need an outrageous dose to knock the effects of DHT.  Also, as you know from your research, MPB is a condition that goes on for a long time before the hair degradation and loss is noticeable. There is the chance some recent loss is recoverable.  HRT in general can make things much better.

If you feel you want aspects of your hair line back or just improved from what your genes have delivered, don't dismiss transplants.  They won't be large and can make a huge difference.  Not kidding.  Hairline improvement is a common MTF hair procedure.

Em.

[Thylacin]

@thylacin

I dont understand does that mean that I do need transplants for my part? That it is thinning as bad as I thought?

yes we have spoken about it many many times she just always tells me that i'm not loosing my hair and that I need to relax.

Relax, please.
No, not need. I would help if you're unhappy with how it is.

[JordanBlue]

@JordanBlue

I will post the message you personally sent me

"Yes, you're young but that's no excuse.  You're insulting every M2F who has REAL hair loss.
I don't appreciate it, but I don't run this forum.  If I did, you wouldn't be here. 
You need help."

I understand that maybe your hair loss is worse than mine and maybe you are bitter about it but that does not mean I do not deserve to be here.

It also does not mean that I do not have hair loss and that I shouldn't be allowed to ask about it.
One member already agreed that she saw some of my hair loss and what I was talking about.

Last I checked you were "outta here" anyways.

This is a place people come to when they HAVE no where else to go. I came here because my extreme fear of my hair loss has gotten to the point that I cannot function on a daily basis. My boyfriend is fed up with me talking about it to him and is getting really angry. I have lost all of my friends since transitioning. My family does not understand me. So I have NO ONE else to talk to about this except on this forum and another trans forum I post on as well.

I find it very offensive that you would personally attack me like this when you have no idea what I am going through. You don't know anything about my life. You know nothing.

Obviously this is a BIG issue for me. You know why?

I AM TRANSITIONING FROM MALE TO FEMALE!

I have a therapist I see weekly, I was taking xanax for 3 years for anxiety and have since gone off because it was effecting my health and mind.

You really do not know what is going on in anyone's life so before being mean and rude to someone especially in the way you did by sending me a message personally, which you obviously did because you knew you were saying something mean and rude you didn't want anyone else to see, you should take a step back and just leave your nasty comments to yourself.

Hey guess what?   You're the one being rude and self centered by pretending your situation is worse than everyone else. Do you see other M2F on here complaining about hair loss that isn't happening?  NO.  You need to listen to your boyfriend. He's fed up with you talking about it and is getting really angry. That does not make it OK to make other people on this forum angry. This is a community of Trans people, it's not all about YOU. Please show some respect and consideration to others who have hair loss far worse than you.  What you're doing now is very offensive.  You are not the only person on earth transitioning from M2F. PLEASE try and understand that.

[JordanBlue]

yes we have spoken about it many many times she just always tells me that i'm not loosing my hair and that I need to relax.

WOW...IMAGINE THAT!

[Declan.]

Most of the cis women I know have the same part and widow's peak. The ones that don't either have unusually thick hair or don't part it down the middle.

You really need to calm down. Some of the stuff you're saying could be really hurtful to other ladies on the board who don't have such lush hair. It's akin to a skinny girl complaining about being "so fat" in the presence of her chubby friends. It's inconsiderate. There are ways to express your concern without indirectly tearing others down.

[amZo]

Your ODCing chill. nothing is wrong

I agree, I believe you when you say you see thinning, but I see none whatsoever. If you feel it's caused by HRT, it may be due to how your hair appears when it becomes softer and less course (especially where you part your hair)? You have gorgeous hair, and a lot of it! I would never tell someone that if I didn't believe it 100%.

[l0nghairdontcare]

Ok I am sorry if I have offended anyone. I do not wan't to fight on this forum with anyone or make anyone else feel bad. This problem is VERY real to me and it really has taken a huge impact on my daily life. I was just looking for opinions from random people on the internet who have no investment in lying to me to make me feel better.

I am sorry if I have hurt anyone's feelings by posting this topic.

Thank you for everyone who has been encouraging to me and replied with positive things to say.

I am feeling much much better about all of this.

[JordanBlue]

Ok I am sorry if I have offended anyone. I do not wan't to fight on this forum with anyone or make anyone else feel bad. This problem is VERY real to me and it really has taken a huge impact on my daily life. I was just looking for opinions from random people on the internet who have no investment in lying to me to make me feel better.

I am sorry if I have hurt anyone's feelings by posting this topic.

Thank you for everyone who has been encouraging to me and replied with positive things to say.

I am feeling much much better about all of this.

Speaking strictly for myself, yes - you did offend me and did hurt my feelings.  But I try not to dwell in the negative, so I forgive you.  Do I understand where your head was when you wrote this stuff? No, I'm sorry but I have to be honest and say that I really don't.  Please think before you post the next time. I hope things work out for you.