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Name/gender marker change questions- Court tommorrow!

Started by Konnor, January 09, 2014, 07:22:31 AM

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Konnor

I have my court date tommorrow for my legal name change. I have everything in order to change my name and gender marker on my DL and passport after that. I feel very unprepared for court though. What will it be like? How dressed up do I need to get? How many original copies of the name change will I need? What documents should I take into my hearing with me? And after that... What all other places do I need to inform of the changes? Does anyone have a handy list of places to change your info after the legal changes? I'm kind of freaking out. Any help is appreciated!! Thanks guys!
"It takes more courage to reveal insecurities than to hide them, more strength to relate to people than to dominate them, more manhood to abide by thought-out principles rather than blind reflex. Toughness is in the soul and spirit, not in muscles and an immature mind." --Alex Karras
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DriftingCrow

 Where you live makes a huge difference in answering those questions. I am not sure if you live in the USA or elsewhere, and in the USA probate courts vary widely by state.

In RI, USA, you can go to probate court in jeans if you want, its a very casual court. Just don't go in ripped jeans and an old t-shirt. Overall, I'd recommend khakis and a polo. Tuck your shirt in.

I also do some work at a family & probate court in MA. Procedure is very different there from RI but recommended dress is the same.
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Konnor

I live in Ohio. Apologize for forgetting to mention that!
"It takes more courage to reveal insecurities than to hide them, more strength to relate to people than to dominate them, more manhood to abide by thought-out principles rather than blind reflex. Toughness is in the soul and spirit, not in muscles and an immature mind." --Alex Karras
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DriftingCrow

QuoteI feel very unprepared for court though. What will it be like?

I am only familiar with RI, MA, and CT probate courts. I am a paralegal in a RI firm with MA and CT lawyers as well as RI barred attorneys

Generally though, you'll go in, sit down. (If OH is like RI and probate is in a town hall, you'll check in with the town clerk before going inside). You'll wait awhile, then the sheriff (or town clerk) will come out and say something like "turn off your cell phones, be quite. . . .". THen, the judge comes in, you all need to stand up until the judge tells you to sit. Usually the judge will then give a brief summary of the order he/she wishes to proceed in, which you need to pay attention to. In small probate courts, they'll usually try to get quick/simple matters (like name changes) out of the way and save the bigger stuff for last, that way they're not making everyone sit around all day.

Sometimes while doing the brief summary of events, the judge (this is only in big courts that they'd do this) will have a pile of all his/her files and call everyone by name, which you'll need to stand up and say "Here" and then sit back down. Make sure you do this, or else you'll be marked absent. If you miss it, try to waive the sheriff over later and tell him/her that you're there.

When they get to you, they'll call your name, you'll stand up and walk over to wherever the sheriff or town clerk tells you to stand. Usually there's a table or little podium. The judge will ask you some questions, mostly to determine that the reason you're getting a name change is not because you're a criminal or running away from creditors, and to make sure all your info matches what's on your petition. Just say you're trans and you're changing it to your preferred name. You should've already submitted a BCI, and possibly a credit check if that's what OH wants too.

If should be quick and simple. You might feel nervous about the whole trans thing, but don't worry. No one there in court really cares, everyone who's waiting has their own problems in court to deal with. :)

QuoteWhat documents should I take into my hearing with me?

Since I am unfamiliar with OH, you may want to check with a clerk at the court before you go in to see what you need. Clerks are really nice (haha sometimes) and helpful, so just call the day or so before, say you're getting a name change with judge so-and-so and ask what you need. You probably should bring in a copy of your petition for name change, maybe a print up version of your credit check that you can get on-line. It wouldn't hurt to bring in your SS card and birth certificate, drivers license/other legal ID.

I am not sure how much originals you'd need.

QuoteWhat all other places do I need to inform of the changes? Does anyone have a handy list of places to change your info after the legal changes?

Once its granted, you'll need to notify the state to change your legal docs, SS, creditors, employer, schools, etc. The other guys here will help you figure that out.
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sneakersjay

Our probate court in a medium-sized town was small and private, and there were no other people. I was called into a conference room (long table, lots of chairs) but it was just me and the judge. He went over the legal stuff, made sure I wasn't trying to defraud creditors.  It was obvious he had done this before, and obvious why I was changing my name.  He did mention that this name change order was not enough to get my gender marker changed on other documents (which I already knew).  I wore khakis, and a button shirt.   Then I drove immediately to the DMV and got my license and gender marker changes (already had the other documentation I needed for that). It was a good day.  :)

Jay


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Konnor

Thanks Jay and Learned! I live in a pretty small town so I imagine it will be a private court with just the judge. I didn't have to submit anything for a background or credit check, unless the court just does that on their own. I'll try to get ahold of someone at the court today to determine if I need to take any documents.
"It takes more courage to reveal insecurities than to hide them, more strength to relate to people than to dominate them, more manhood to abide by thought-out principles rather than blind reflex. Toughness is in the soul and spirit, not in muscles and an immature mind." --Alex Karras
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aleon515

I'm in NM, and we had to go to county court. It is a pretty small court (although a big court house) and when I got in I was the only person there (aside from the judge and court reporter. The judge insisted on calling me Miss, but didn't refuse. I got asked 3 questions whether I was doing this to avoid the law, whether I was trying to avoid creditors, and whether I had "a good reason" which I think was silly (but I have heard various other questions, also silly-- like you are asked 3 magic questions. I think I wore a button down shirt and black jeans. I also got my driver's license changed including the gender marker which is a simple form in NM.

--Jay
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