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Started by Hypatia, July 09, 2007, 10:36:55 PM

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Hypatia

I am in a debate on another message board. People have started posting stuff I'd never heard before: Arguments saying that "SRS is not effective." They posted a cite to a 2004 British study to this effect: http://society.guardian.co.uk/mentalhealth/story/0,8150,1272093,00.html

Now they are challenging me to provide a cite to the contrary. I've been hearing for years that scientific studies proved that we have a huge rate of satisfaction post-op. OK--where are these studies? I need specific cites to peer-reviewed research published in journals. I've been looking all over the place and can't find anything. If I come up with nothing, I will be forced to admit defeat.

This is a debating community where they hold everyone to the same standard: Anyone who makes any factual scientific claim has to provide a cite. What have we got to counter the above study?
Here's what I find about compromise--
don't do it if it hurts inside,
'cause either way you're screwed,
eventually you'll find
you may as well feel good;
you may as well have some pride

--Indigo Girls
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Keira


TS with no problems tend to drop off the map after SRS and live their lives as woman as far away from the medical process as possible, so its very hard to get a follow-up.

Only those with much problems after, will tend to stay in contact with the clinics. Only government clinics really could get a true follow up anyway, all those going the private way (and there are many) won't be followed adequately.

The studies I know about dissatisfaction are from the 70's and were very heavily biased.

I could look into this. But, founding for studies on transexuals is minimal and that's why there is so little studies.


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Sandi

Quote from: HypatiaI need specific cites to peer-reviewed research published in journals.

Why should you? They site a study that acknowledges they used unreliable data. (Excerpt below form the article):

QuoteIts review warns that the results of many gender reassignment studies are unsound because researchers lost track of more than half of the participants. For example, in a five-year study of 727 post-operative transsexuals published last year, 495 people dropped out for unknown reasons. Dr Hyde said the high drop out rate could reflect high levels of dissatisfaction or even suicide among post-operative transsexuals. He called for the causes of their deaths to be tracked to provide more evidence.

But in spite of them using a source deemed unreliable by the researchers that did the study, they say your rebuttal needs to be peer-review evidence. Tell them to give you a peer-reviewed study, instead of admitted flawed data for you to rebut.

This is how silly this lack of workable data sound to me. There are a bunch of valuable coins buried in a secret place, by multiple people who are no longer available. I'm saying that  there were 4 sliver coins and 8 gold coins. If you disagree with me, prove me wrong with peer-reviewed evidence. It cannot be proven, or disproved by any side one would wish to argue.

It is just too hard to follow transsexuals that want to disappear and blend. There is no way to do scientific research without the proper data, which likely isn't even be available. Especially if many transsexuals have blended and don't want to be surveyed.
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Keira


the incredible thing is that the 500 who dropped off are assumed to have killed themselves or dissatisfied!!!! Wow, what a leap! Just saying they didn't want to keep in contact with the clinics was not enough!
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Buffy

Firtsly let me say that I wouldn't agree with anything that is written in the Guardian. It hasin the past been a very trans (and homophobic) newspaper and July 2004 is before the time that the press commission enforced standrds regarding the reporting of minority groups.

The recent case in the UK, surrounding Russell Reid and his appearance before the British Medical Council again raised this issue of dissatifaction and effectiveness of both the system and Gender reassignment. The fact that 3 of his patients regretted the decision to undergo SRS (out of many who had successfully transitioned). A very small percentage of the number that go through transition.

The numbers that are TS, undiagnosed and either don't transition (or commit suicide), will probably not be known

Figures I have seen is that there is a >98% success rate in the treatment of transsexuals that includes.

I have a 161 page report (in pdf format) issued 2006, by the TRENT Regional Health Authority (a district in the UK, which covers 5 GIC's) entitled - Evidence Based Commisioning Collaboration -Gender Reassignment Surgery, that reviews the effectiveness and treatment (including SRS) of people within this region. It does conclude that 10-15% of patients have "unsatisfactory" SRS surgery.

The report links to previous studies and has over 200 references to other studies carried out on both MTF and FTM TS.

If anyone would like this... e-mail me Buffy@susans.org and it is yours.

Buffy
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asiangurliee

I found 3 studies (i am sure there are more):

The first is by Ann Lawrence:


From the Archives of Sexual Behavior. Vol 32(4), Aug 2003, pp. 299-315


Title :Factors associated with satisfaction or regret following male-to-female sex reassignment surgery.


Abstract: This study examined factors associated with satisfaction or regret following sex reassignment surgery (SRS) in 232 male-to-female transsexuals operated on between 1994 and 2000 by one surgeon using a consistent technique. Participants, all of whom were at least 1-year postoperative, completed a written questionnaire concerning their experiences and attitudes. Participants reported overwhelmingly that they were happy with their SRS results and that SRS had greatly improved the quality of their lives. None reported outright regret and only a few expressed even occasional regret.


The second study is by Lobato, Maria Inês Inês1; Koff, Walter José1; Manenti, Carlo1; da Fonseca Seger, Débora1; Salvador, Jaqueline1; da Graça Borges Fortes, Maria1; Petry, Analídia Rodolpho1; Silveira, Esalba1; Henriques, Alexandre Annes1



From the Archives of Sexual Behavior. Vol 35(6), Dec 2006, pp. 711-715

Title  Follow-up of sex reassignment surgery in transsexuals: A Brazilian cohort.

This study examined the impact of sex reassignment surgery on the satisfaction with sexual experience, partnerships, and relationship with family members in a cohort of Brazilian transsexual patients. A group of 19 patients who received sex reassignment between 2000 and 2004 (18 maleto- female, 1 female-to-male) after a two-year evaluation by a multidisciplinary team, and who agreed to participate in the study, completed a written questionnaire.

None of the patients reported regret for having undergone the surgery. Sexual experience was considered to have improved by 83.3% of the patients, and became more frequent for 64.7% of the patients. For 83.3% of the patients, sex was considered to be pleasurable with the neovagina/neopenis. In addition, 64.7% reported that initiating and maintaining a relationship had become easier. The number of patients with a partner increased from 52.6% to 73.7%. Family relationships improved in 26.3% of the cases, whereas 73.7% of the patients did not report a difference. None of the patients reported worse relationships with family members after sex reassignment. In conclusion, the overall impact of sex reassignment surgery on this cohort of patients was positive.




The third one is by Cohen-Ketteinis, Peggy T.1; van Goozen, Stephanie H. M.

Title: Sex reassignment of adolescent transsexuals: A follow-up study.

From: Journal of the American Academy of Child & Adolescent Psychiatry. Vol 36(2), Feb 1997, pp. 263-271


Abstract: Investigated postoperative functioning of the 1st 22 consecutive adolescent transsexual patients of a gender clinic who underwent sex reassignment surgery. Postoperatively the group was no longer gender-dysphoric; they scored in the normal range with respect to a number of different psychological measures and they were socially functioning quite well. Not a single S expressed feelings of regret concerning the decision to undergo sex reassignment.
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Hypatia

Ah, this is great! Thank you so much, sisters! You rock!
Here's what I find about compromise--
don't do it if it hurts inside,
'cause either way you're screwed,
eventually you'll find
you may as well feel good;
you may as well have some pride

--Indigo Girls
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LostInTime

Not an exact match but:

"Title: Symptom profiles of gender dysphoric patients of transsexual type compared to patients with personality disorders and healthy adults.

(Acta Psychiatr Scand 2000 Oct;102(4):276-81, 0001-690X, Haraldsen IR; Dahl AA, University of Oslo, Aker Hospital, Department of Psychiatry, Norway.)

OBJECTIVE: Gender dysphoric patients of transsexual type (TS) have been considered to have severe psychopathology. However, these notions have a weak empirical documentation. METHOD: TS patients (n = 86), patients with personality disorder (PD, n = 98) and adult healthy controls (HC, n = 1068) were compared by means of the Symptom Checklist 90 (SCL-90). All patients were diagnosed by structured interviews (Axis I, II and V of DSM-III-R/IV). PD patients were further characterized according to the LEAD-standard. RESULTS: TS patients scored significantly lower than PD patients on the Global Symptom Index and all SCL-90 subscales. Although the TS group generally scored slightly higher than the HC group, all scores were within the normal range. CONCLUSION: TS patients selected for sex reassignment showed a relatively low level of self-rated psychopathology before and after treatment. This finding casts doubt on the view that transsexualism is a severe mental disorder."

Posted on: July 11, 2007, 13:04:29
A psycho-endocrinological overview of transsexualism

A Michel, C Mormont1 and J J Legros
Department of Clinical Psychology, University of LieÁge, LieÁge, Belgium and 1Endocrinology Service, Unit of Psychoneuroendocrinology,University of LieÁge, LieÁge, Belgium

(Correspondence should be addressed to A Michel, University of LieÁge, Department of Clinical Psychology, Boulevard du Rectorat ± B33, B-4000 LieÁge, Belgium; Email: aude.michel@ulg.ac.be)

European Journal of Endocrinology (2001) 145 365±376 
ISSN 0804-4643

Post-transformation
It is impossible to compel the transsexual to follow
long-term assessment (129). Indeed, a major obstacle
in conducting follow-up studies is that it is very difficult
to find transsexuals who have been operated on, and
even more difficult to find those who accept reassessment
(130±132). Therefore, those few who do
agree to participate in follow-up studies do not
constitute a representative sample of the population
of transsexuals who have been operated on.

Apart from this methodological problem, since the
first publication by Hertz et al. (133), a large number of
studies have examined the consequences of sex change
and these have been the subject of several reviews (59,
134±141). In the great majority of cases, transsexuals
seem satisfied with their transformation, with only
about 10% of subjects being unsatisfied. This percentage
is lower in FM (6% (135); 9.7% (137); 3% (139))
compared with MF subjects (8.1% (135); 10.3% (137);
13% (139)).

A temporary dissatisfaction can be observed immediately
after the sex change. Certain transsexuals and
themselves confronted with various difficulties (postoperation
pain, surgical complications, dissatisfaction
with surgical results, departure of the partner, loss of job,
familial conflicts, etc.) and experience a phase of
dissatisfaction that can lead to regret in some cases.
However, most often this dissatisfaction disappears during
the year following the surgical transformation where no
other intervention was deemed necessary (142).


Posted on: July 11, 2007, 13:09:06



Psychiatric Aspects of Sex Reassignment Surgery
Charles Mate-Kole/Maurizio Freschi, Charing Cross and Westminster Medical
School, London


Evidence from the majority of studies to date suggests that SRS is followed by an improvement in psychological status. Lundstrom et al (1984) in a general review of the literature reported as follows:
  Satisfactory outcome to some degree is dependent upon good cosmetic outcome and functional results of surgery, but other variables can affect the patient's perception of overall satisfaction.
  Personal and social instability are correlated with unsatisfactory results and this is an indication that the transsexual should be supported both preoperatively and postoperatively if SRS is to be considered.
  There is an inverse relationship between increasing age at the time of request for surgery and favourable outcome.
  Not only do secondary transsexuals have a higher frequency of unsatisfactory outcome, but it is indicated that when such patients are refused surgery they manage their lives reasonably well and tend to give up their pursuit of SRS.
  SRS is the treatment of choice for carefully selected genuine primary transsexuals only. Caution should be paid to patients with unstable backgrounds and diagnostic criteria should be consistent. There is no doubt that transsexualism is an extreme form of gender dysphoria. However, whether SRS is the treatment of choice is equivocal. Therefore, future studies should adopt a multidisciplinary approach ranging from psychiatric and neuropsychological evaluation to sociological and physiological investigations to improve the definition of indications and predictors for SRS.


Posted on: July 11, 2007, 13:11:23

Sex Reassignment of Adolescent Transsexuals: A Follow-up Study
AM. ACAD. CHILD ADOLESC. PSYCHIATRY, 36:2. February 1997
Accepted May 15, 1996.
From the Department of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, Rudolph Magnus Institute of Neurosciences,
Utrecht, The Netherlands
0890-8567/97/3602-0263503.00/0©1997 by the American Academy. of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry.
PEGGY T. COHEN-KETTENIS, PH.D., AND STEPHANIE H.M. van GOOZEN, PH.D.

Discussion
In this adolescent group, 1 to 5 years after surgery, sex reassignment seems to have been therapeutic and beneficial. SRS has resolved the patients' gender identity problem and enabled them to live in the new gender role in quite an inconspicuous way. Socially and psychologically these adolescents do not seem to function very differently from nontranssexual peers, perhaps with the exception of a greater reluctance among those in the FM group to get involved in short-term or incidental sexual encounters. Relief of gender dysphoria, however, does not necessarily mean relief of unhappiness in general. In some cases, after SRS, certain non-transsexualism related problems had disappeared, such as shyness or bad school grades. But in other cases such changes had not occurred, or the new situation had created new problems, such as (in the majority of the FMs) living as a man without a penis. This condition may cause practical problems, e.g., showering in a group setting after sports activities, and emotional problems, e.g., being frustrated because of the impossibility of having "real sex" with one's girlfriend. The extent to which such unfavorable factors hamper postsurgical functioning depends largely on the individual's psychological strength. That the group functioned quite well from a psychological point of view suggests that they were capable of handling their problems adequately.
In the previously mentioned study of adult Dutch transsexuals who had undergone SRS (Kuiper and Cohen-Kettenis, 1988), SRS was also found to be an effective treatment for transsexuals. Several similar instruments were used in the two studies and all subjects were treated in the same country. Therefore, data from our study are easier to compare with data from this adult group than with data from non-Dutch samples.
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Hypatia

I've finally found the answer I was looking for.

Pfafflin F, Junge A (1992) Sex Reassignment: Thirty Years of International Follow-Up Studies after SRS -- A Comprehensive Review, 1961-1991. English translation (1998) available on the Internet at http://209.143.139.183/ijtbooks/pfaefflin/1000.asp.
Pfafflin and Junge concluded that SR treatment was generally effective in relieving gender dysphoria, and that its positive results greatly outweighed any negative consequences. They found overall that the results of SR in FMs were somewhat more favorable than in MFs. Pfafflin and Junge noted that satisfactory results of SR were reported in over 70% of MFs and in nearly 90% of FMs in the earliest reviews, conducted through 1984. Those results improved to 87% satisfactory results in MFs and 97% satisfactory results in FMs in a more recent review by Green and Fleming (1990), which considered only studies performed after 1980. (from a paper by Lawrence A -- much more at http://www.jenellerose.com/htmlpostings/transsexual_surgery_its_pros_and_cons.htm)

and

Green R, Fleming D (1990) Transsexual surgery follow-up: status in the 1990s. Ann Rev Sex Res 1: 163-174.
(Found 87% of satisfaction for male to female transsexual and 97% of satisfaction for F to M transsexual.)
Here's what I find about compromise--
don't do it if it hurts inside,
'cause either way you're screwed,
eventually you'll find
you may as well feel good;
you may as well have some pride

--Indigo Girls
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