A Purpose For Being Transgender?

[Chaos]

I like Del's comments although the part about a rib is a bit assumed by many theologians but not entirely accurate. The scriptures indicate that God put Adam in a deep sleep and from his side He brought forth Eve. This would make a lot of sense and not be seen as ludicrous as a woman being made out of a rib bone and adds credence as to why born males have both an X & Y chromosome. God literally drew the female forth from Adam and it may just be that Adam in his original form was both male and female as the scriptures say that he was created perfect and in the image of God. We talk about whether God would be male or female, well in that you have a plausible answer.

I wish to correct you on a few points if I may.God his self is neither male or female. But spirit alone.God did however create. Angels to be both genders so that they may protect,love and help ALL of man kind but you are close on a few points.if you think about it like this,God his self showed with eve what he is capable of.He pulled a female from within a male and she manafested to complete him.this can also be seen as being transsexual in a sense.two,much isn't know about his dna but we do know that they were the only two beings created and since adam had no mother,yes where did his female dna come from? Also the rib was picked by God because it is the only bone that rebuilds its self.when broken,it rarely needs binding because of its structure.it will literally regrow.its truelly amazing what God lays out before us so that we may see his purpose.

[Shantel]

I wish to correct you on a few points if I may.God his self is neither male or female. But spirit alone.God did however create. Angels to be both genders so that they may protect,love and help ALL of man kind but you are close on a few points.if you think about it like this,God his self showed with eve what he is capable of.He pulled a female from within a male and she manafested to complete him.this can also be seen as being transsexual in a sense.two,much isn't know about his dna but we do know that they were the only two beings created and since adam had no mother,yes where did his female dna come from? Also the rib was picked by God because it is the only bone that rebuilds its self.when broken,it rarely needs binding because of its structure.it will literally regrow.its truelly amazing what God lays out before us so that we may see his purpose.

Yes, good thinking and I will stand corrected on the rib comment I made, I think you and Del are probably correct. I had not considered that about the properties of a rib and initially thought it was ludicrous, I was probably mistaken.

[Chaos]

No worries my dear ^ I thought this was an interesting topic lol we all have a purpose.some from God and some not (meaning religiously thinking) but that's important is that we have one.The word of God is a complex place that requires your soul to have ears to hear.I encourage everyone to get lost in the word and allow him to show his purpose and truth for their lives.as a saying goes 'some are born that way and some are created but all know birth'

[Shantel]

No worries my dear ^ I thought this was an interesting topic lol we all have a purpose.some from God and some not (meaning religiously thinking) but that's important is that we have one.The word of God is a complex place that requires your soul to have ears to hear.I encourage everyone to get lost in the word and allow him to show his purpose and truth for their lives.as a saying goes 'some are born that way and some are created but all know birth'

Excellent point well made!

[gennee]

Yes, God did make me transgender for a purpose. I have an internet radio program sharing
God's love to the TGLBQI community.

[Shantel]

Yes, God did make me transgender for a purpose. I have an internet radio program sharing
God's love to the TGLBQI community.

[Kendall]

This is the very reason antagonists of trans refuse to accept any born-that-way evidence... because of this very biblical verse. rather they will always say it is a matter of choice or something learned.

[Satinjoy]

Then they are going to have one heck of a time with us when they figure out the physical side of it.  There is a physical side, and God doesn't screw anything up, there is purpose within everything He does.

There is most definitely a physical transition in me, in the womb, and they keep finding out more stuff about that, as well as medically for those that were born TS without the DES factors.

I believe they don't understand the verse and they miss the whole content of the psalm, which is priceless stuff there.

It is obvious that a life of pain and loneliness and self conflict is not good fruit in the will of God.  I look at the fruit of testosterone and it increases in me massive temptation, sin, bad fruit.  On E, it is completely different and I can live Biblically without temptation driving me nuts.  Nothing against it for our transmen and their wonderful insights on these topics, but it does not agree with me personally, I can't handle testosterone.  I guess they can, and that is part of Gods design.

[Satinjoy]

Also those that hurt us, even if they think they are trying to help, are going to be extremely embarrassed and uncomfortable when they reach the throne of grace, and realize what they have inadvertantly or deliberately done.  And then Jesus will heal both them and us and there will be peace and joy anyway in heaven.  This world is the blink of an eye and we have a ticket out of here to paradise.

I so dislike legalism and rigidity, the misunderstanding of the heart of Christ, look how He reacted to the pharisees of the time.  He wasn't very happy with them at all. 

[Jess42]

I appreciate your well thought-out replies, Del, and I do agree that purpose or not, the most important thing is to seek God first in everything.  That's first and foremost.

Have you ever really thought about that part of your statement that I emboldened Malachite? Most cisgender people never really question anything about who they are, they are who and what they are and accept it. We on the other hand know something isn't right, that our mind or Spirit or Soul is out of synch with the physical parts of ourselves. This leads to questions, anger, depression and so on. What can we learn from a life of ease and luxury? Maybe life is supposed to be hard and difficult. Maybe being trans is a way of forcing us to question the mind, body and Soul. To feel different inside than what the physical body is outside forces us to see that there is so much more than physical perceptions.  I do think there is a purpose for being transgender. For me it forces me to separate the Spiritual and physical aspects of myself and feel that there is more to me than just the physical body. For other's it may be different but there is no denying that there is a separation, conflict or unsychronization between our minds and bodies and that we are possibly way more than what humans seem to be physically. So if we look at our own Spirit first we are actually seeking God because I believe it is our Spirit that was created in the image of God and the body is just a vessel for this planet. I know it sounds crazy but it seems plausible?

[Shantel]

I've seen so many die before my eyes and even if one isn't religious it becomes plain to see that the life force that resided in that person's body has left and gone on elsewhere. The body is merely a cabinet and when it's been severely damaged or is falling apart due to age or sickness, then that life force moves out and on to exist in a different place. Perhaps we become the perfection of what we were intended to be in another dimension beyond the confines of time and space.

[Jess42]

I've seen so many die before my eyes and even if one isn't religious it becomes plain to see that the life force that resided in that person's body has left and gone on elsewhere. The body is merely a cabinet and when it's been severely damaged or is falling apart due to age or sickness, then that life force moves out and on to exist in a different place. Perhaps we become the perfection of what we were intended to be in another dimension beyond the confines of time and space.

Me too. For me its a weird feeling. Could just be my mind though and thinking how easy it is to go from being a living breathing human to nothing more than a bag of meat and bones. But I really don't think so though. It's the eyes for me. I have seen people with dialated eyes and have seen people sleep with their eyes halfway open, just like a dead person, but it's not the same there is till something there. What does pure intelligent energy look like? Is it even possible to measure it? Do we even want to know?

[thevaliantx]

That's a good way of looking at it and it makes me think of Galatians 3:28 where there's neither male or female since we are all one in Christ Jesus

I don't interpret that scripture in that way at all.  They were strictly binary back then, I believe, so the writer did not say that a person was neither male or female, but was rather addressing everyone, and each person as part of the body of Christ was either male or female.

[Rachel@Work]

This is a great question and one that I would like to respond too. My particular view point on this is that of the soul searcher. This is to say that as long as your soul being is what you believe you are, than you are what you are. So for me being male to female, it would make sense that if my soul is female, then I must certainly be female. Thus allowing the physical body modification process to just be a medical alignment process that I must go through. Just as any individual who has depression would take meds I will take meds to help fix the overwhelming issue that is effecting my soul on an emotional level. God gave birth to life if you will. My belief is that he gave birth to our souls. Our physical body's are not nearly as important as the inner self. And as transgender people we understand this very well. Because we search for ourselves and wish to be authentic with the world about who we really are more than anything. Thus, if you truly feel as tho you are something, you must be it.

[King Malachite]

Have you ever really thought about that part of your statement that I emboldened Malachite? Most cisgender people never really question anything about who they are, they are who and what they are and accept it. We on the other hand know something isn't right, that our mind or Spirit or Soul is out of synch with the physical parts of ourselves. This leads to questions, anger, depression and so on. What can we learn from a life of ease and luxury? Maybe life is supposed to be hard and difficult. Maybe being trans is a way of forcing us to question the mind, body and Soul. To feel different inside than what the physical body is outside forces us to see that there is so much more than physical perceptions.  I do think there is a purpose for being transgender. For me it forces me to separate the Spiritual and physical aspects of myself and feel that there is more to me than just the physical body. For other's it may be different but there is no denying that there is a separation, conflict or unsychronization between our minds and bodies and that we are possibly way more than what humans seem to be physically. So if we look at our own Spirit first we are actually seeking God because I believe it is our Spirit that was created in the image of God and the body is just a vessel for this planet. I know it sounds crazy but it seems plausible?

Intresting answer.  I have thought about the bolded statement because as far as my identity is concerned, I'm a Christian first and transgender second so naturally I'd try to seek God and the Bible first to see of both of them can be reconciled and luckily for me, I feel that they are. 

I don't interpret that scripture in that way at all.  They were strictly binary back then, I believe, so the writer did not say that a person was neither male or female, but was rather addressing everyone, and each person as part of the body of Christ was either male or female.

I interpret that scripture in a similar way.

This is a great question and one that I would like to respond too. My particular view point on this is that of the soul searcher. This is to say that as long as your soul being is what you believe you are, than you are what you are. So for me being male to female, it would make sense that if my soul is female, then I must certainly be female. Thus allowing the physical body modification process to just be a medical alignment process that I must go through. Just as any individual who has depression would take meds I will take meds to help fix the overwhelming issue that is effecting my soul on an emotional level. God gave birth to life if you will. My belief is that he gave birth to our souls. Our physical body's are not nearly as important as the inner self. And as transgender people we understand this very well. Because we search for ourselves and wish to be authentic with the world about who we really are more than anything. Thus, if you truly feel as tho you are something, you must be it.

Nice answer and I agree with a lot of it.  I view my transgenderness as a birth defect. I believe my soul to be male so I want to line my body up with it as much as I can.

[Satinjoy]

Rather than birth defect I prefer to see it as a birth anomoly.  Defect is negative.  I don't want to label how I was made as a defect.  Even though it requires work, still not a defect, just a planned scenario from above, as the psalmist said, to live out Gods plan including our transition, and motivate us to search the thoughts and heart of God.  Others are helped by this.  Some are hurt and we have the challenge of bringing that to God too.  But had I not been born trans, what kind of person would I have become?  Intolerant, not needing God, selfish?  Impossible to know.  But there is good fruit from this and I wish to bring to the harvest.

I used to say birth defect but now I don't think so, I only use that term for self protection from those who do not understand things with us much.

Good thread.

[Constance]

Birth anomaly. I like it.

[Jess42]

Intresting answer.  I have thought about the bolded statement because as far as my identity is concerned, I'm a Christian first and transgender second so naturally I'd try to seek God and the Bible first to see of both of them can be reconciled and luckily for me, I feel that they are. 

See Malachite? For me it was the other way around. Being trans led me to a lot of questioning and the answers that I would usually get, I wasn't very satisfied with. Then I started to understand that the body is physical and that we do have a Spirit and that Spirit can be different from the body it inhabits. For whatever reason being trans led me to a greater belief in God. Although I ain't Christian in the accepted views of Christianity, mainly because I believe in reincarnation, I do believe that Christ was a great teacher and that the Spirit of Christ is much more advanced than man's. I do believe in the return of Christ but again it's not the return that is usually accepted by Christian churches. But we are all different but I do believe that everything that happens, happens for a reason and that reason is to advance our Spirituality more toward God.

[Shantel]

Some people say there is no God and other's say that they believe thus and so, or that I believe this way and go to this church, while you believe that way and attend that congregation. When Christ met the Samaritan woman at the well she said, "You Jews worship at the temple, but we worship over on that mountain!" same old argument isn't it, I believe this way and you believe that way? Christ said in essence, "If you knew who was standing here before you all of that would seem meaningless, because the day is coming when mankind will not worship in specific places or in buildings made by human hands, but will worship in spirit and in truth" (this is a paraphrase of that conversation as I understand it)
Later he said, "I am the way, the truth and the life, no man comes to the Father but by me!"

This is the reason I am not religious but spiritual instead because of having accepted Christ on His terms not on my own. I believe in spirit and in truth rather than sit, kneel or bow prostrate on the floor in a building or specific place each week or beat myself with chains because that is simply practicing religion trying to reach God on man's terms. When in reality God reached down instead to man coming into the world as Christ who then willingly bled and died on the cross for a purpose and as a sign. At that moment the sky went black and a bolt of lightening cut the temple veil that separated the Holy of Holies from the congregation from top to bottom, it was made of heavily woven materials. This was to signify that God would no longer be meeting mankind on man's terms and in buildings made of human hands, but would come in spirit and indwell him as each man's heart is open to him. Christ said, "Behold I stand at the door and knock, and whoever opens I will come in and sup with him and he with Me." He is clearly alluding to the Passover in Egypt when the blood of a lamb without blemish was sacrificed and the frame of each Hebrew doorway was marked by the blood and that family was passed over by the spirit of death but the first born in each house not so marked died that night. When we meet Christ on His terms and not on our own, He marks the entryway to our own hearts, His spirit then abides within each of us and we are positionally passed over by an unhappy fate in the next life. Not my rules, not my plan, God's plan that we can either accept or reject.

[thevaliantx]

Shantel, that is absolutely beautiful!

Is there anything more beautiful than God's love for us?