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Kind of a morbid question, but...

Started by Declan., January 24, 2014, 05:22:43 PM

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Declan.

I've always wanted to be buried when I die as opposed to being cremated (hopefully in another 70 years or so - I'm in no hurry, lol), but I've been thinking lately about how, if my body is dug up in a few thousand years, I don't want to be ID'd as a female. Kind of an odd thing to worry about, I guess, but will testosterone change that or would I still be ID'd as female by future archaeologists?
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Ms Grace

HRT won't change your overall bone structure so your skeleton is likely to give away your genetic origins I'm sorry to say. It's cremation for me! Either that or getting eaten by a crocodile ;)
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Transition 1.0 (Julie): HRT 1989-91
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Transition 2.0 (Grace): HRT June 24 2013
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King Malachite

Testosterone won't change your bone structure, therefore you will be identified as a biological female.

I initially had problems with this and I still do to some extent, but I'll be in a better place by then so I won't care too much.

No cremation for me though.  Anything but that, and when I say anything I mean anything, be it moral or immoral.
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Jessica Merriman

Your going to transition and this is what is bothering you? I really don't think you have anything to worry about. Of course, now that you mention it I DO want to have my proper name on the stone and everyone use the correct pronouns at the service. :) I really don't think either one of us will really be worrying about it in a thousand years though. If you want to get technical though, IF they find and retrieve your body it should be quite interesting an investigation to follow. They will figure it out on X-rays though. You will still have such things as a female pelvis and a few other landmarks that HRT will not change. You and I sure will have them scratching their heads for a while though. ;D
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Lauren5

Interesting thought.
I had a dream one night that I was a murder victim on an episode of Bones, and they could not identify my remains. Until they noticed the forehead reconstruction, leading them to revise their search, and classify my murder as a potential hate crime. I didn't see anything about the actual investigation, just the autopsy.
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Declan.

I believe in ghosts, so I think I would care even after death, lol. Even if that's not the case, I care right now, and I'd rather not dread something for the rest of my life when I could just choose to be cremated and stop thinking about it.
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Miss_Bungle1991

I don't care about some archaeologist digging me up in a few thousand years. I don't even think that humanity will be around in a few thousand years (or even a few hundred years)...just a feeling that I have.

I no longer have a desire to be cremated.

My only wishes that I want honored when I die is that I am buried and I am also buried with my dolls.

Will it be honored? Or will I just be chucked into a crematory oven?

I will never know.
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King Malachite

Quote from: Laura Squirrel on January 24, 2014, 05:42:58 PM
I don't even think that humanity will be around in a few thousand years (or even a few hundred years)...just a feeling that I have.

That's how I feel too ^
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mrs izzy

Smoke and ashes for me.

But yes HRT will not change any of the female bone structures so yes if anyone is still around in the future and wishes to dig your body up they will say you where male with a female boday. Sorry.

But i agree with Laura on "I don't even think that humanity will be around in a few thousand years (or even a few hundred years)"

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amZo

Request that you be buried wearing a jock strap, the Apes (I believe we'll be the Planet of the Apes by then) that dig you up in 2,000 years will believe you to be cis-male human. Whether they'll care or not is another matter.
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Declan.

Quote from: mind is quiet now on January 24, 2014, 06:04:31 PM
But yes HRT will not change any of the female bone structures so yes if anyone is till around in the future and wishes to dig your body up they will say you where male with a female boday. Sorry.

Don't care about that at all, as long as they know I am/was a guy. Not sure how they'd be able to tell though, not if something happens to my grave marker.  :-\
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Jill F

I'm guessing I'd be too dead to care one way or the other.

Maybe I'll look into that crocodile thing.  At least I'd be feeding a hungry creature.  :D
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amZo

Quote from: Jill F on January 24, 2014, 06:13:53 PM
I'm guessing I'd be too dead to care one way or the other.

Maybe I'll look into that crocodile thing.  At least I'd be feeding a hungry creature.  :D

I often tell people I want to be fed to sharks (but crocodiles work too), why let a perfectly good dead body go to waste?
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Amy The Bookworm

Personally... I like to think that in 1,000 years being transgender will be no big deal and they realize we're (by that point) among the first transgender people to have medical options for transitioning and living in our chosen gender. They won't have the confusion or awkwardness about it that people do today.

All I ask is ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPO7pa4VShs


... I do NOT want to die and be burried in Kansas.
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Declan.

The issue isn't knowing I'm transgender, it's them not knowing who I was, what I was like, or what my name is, and assuming by my bones that I was a woman.
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Jamie D

The Egyptians, and other ancient cultures, often buried their dead with artifacts, like an amulet.

Get a nice, non-oxidizing metal symbol of maleness and have it hung around your neck when you are interred.
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Ms Grace

I do understand what you mean, I've seen those kind of archeology shows where they dig up a skeleton and proceed to discuss the gender of the individual. And I think, how do you know, they may have been trans*? They can tell from pretty much any bone, but especially the hips and skull. If you don't want to run the risk of your bones appearing on an archeology TV show or in a museum exhibit in 1,000/10,000/100,000 years, then to be 100% sure the furnace is your only safe bet. :-\
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Transition 1.0 (Julie): HRT 1989-91
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Sheala

For me its barial. I know I will be in a better place at that time and am in now worry of how the furure may view me. yes my bones will betray that i am geneticly a male, I feel like a woman inside and out so its this life that concerns me not after.

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V M

If human's are still muckin' about in a thousand years, technology will probably be such that archaeologists will be able to examine a grave site without even digging it up

As for me I have requested to be buried at sea via flaming catapult  :D  Should be a real treat for the sharks to get a home cooked meal
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MugwortPsychonaut

Turn my ashes into a piece of pool coping! Scatter the rest at a particular state park in my home state.
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