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Started by sam79, January 25, 2014, 02:41:13 AM

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sam79

For the last couple of weeks, I've not entirely been feeling myself, or at least the way I'd gotten used to feeling. A libido has come out of nowhere, and my dreams are getting more vivid and intense, and I'm feeling more emotion than ever.

Today hasn't been great. I've isolated myself off from most of the world. All because I don't understand what's happening, and I find it very scary. :(

HRT had been magical in destroying my libido for a very long time ( and I wanted it destroyed ). And while it had been more difficult to get to sleep, I chalked that up to the stresses of transition. Dreams were no more vivid than usual, though did occasionally play upon fears and concerns relating to transition. But that seemed normal to me and my therapist.

Starting with the dreams, for the last two weeks they've been very intense, and last night was the most intense yet. I'm pretty sure I was screaming in my sleep last night in one dream about one of my sisters refusing to use my new name or respect my wishes. In reality, she's doing something along those lines, so it's somewhat based on real issues. Other dreams last night were just the usual random ones, but still so very vivid that I've no doubt that I was vocal and not still in my sleep.

Also in the last two weeks, I've been having vivid intimate dreams, and waking with erections. Again, I've not had those for such a long time. And I do not want such dreams or physical responses. They're a big psychological cause of angst for me... I don't want these dreams, and I want the thing below dead and lifeless. I hate it and can't bare it doing anything. I've not touched it in so long, and the "boys" have major atrophy.

With those intimate dreams, a libido has also come out of nowhere. It's not as intense as the former one from my old life, and I ignore it most of the time. Again, this is something I don't want yet. Because there's nothing I feel able to do about it. Until SRS I won't date, and will avoid all intimacy because I'm not comfortable with myself being pre-op. One minor blessing though, it confirms my orientation.

On top of this, I've been feeling more than ever. It's like emotions are being magnified. And right now that's leading to anxiety because of the above :(.

I originally thought that a hormone imbalance was the cause of this. I had associated libido with T as libido previously only spiked when T did. But a blood test showed that my hormones are perfect. The best yet actually... with T at 0.6 and a healthy E count.

I don't know what to do. Transition is hard enough without more basic urges, and without disturbed sleep or worry on the mind. And it's starting to cause me issues & further stress.

Has something like this happened to any other girls?
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stephaniec

I've  been on HRT for 4 months, Don't have erections or any thing during sleep like  I use to, thankfully. But I do have intense dreams . I've always had intense dreams that calmed down for awhile when I started HRT. I like my dreams and they don't bother me . I like to analyze my dreams so I'm glad they're still there.
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TinaMadisonWhite

Wow! I hope you find some peace.  I was never so happy as when I found the off-switch to that second brain down there.  I can't imagine having it return.

I cannot comment on your specific dreams.  But I have experienced some extended periods of sleeplessness as I struggled with recurring nightmares and fantasies.  It was brutal.

With time, I have learned to welcome these episodes as painful but crucial stages in my transition.  Rather than fight and question them, I have learned to allow them to run their course.  My mind is trying to work through something very important.  What is it?  The less I struggled to fight it, the more quickly my mind seemed to figure things out.

If your issue is something hormonal, then I wouldn't sit passively by.   But you might ask yourself the question: is there something important your mind is trying to come to peace with?

Good luck!
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Natalia

About the libido part.

For me HRT killed my libido completely and I could spend a long time without spontaneous erections and nothing of that male urge of masturbation...

But from some weeks ago until now I've been experiencing a comeback of that libido. I don't welcome it as well...I was living so peacefully with myself but now I feel that sexual calling from time to time...argh...I hate it! Before HRT I felt like if my mind was a kind of slave and I had to obey the urges coming from those things between my legs....and when I got my freedom I was so happy...but those thoughts are returning...  >:(

Must be normal though...it is normal to have a libido...

About the dreams part...I've been experiencing some vivid dreams too...not every night, of course. On my last dream I remember I had a pretty and sexy female body, but I was in some strange planet and wearing science-fiction clothing (like Seven of Nine from Star Trek) lol
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SunKat

Quote from: SammyRose on January 25, 2014, 02:41:13 AM
Starting with the dreams, for the last two weeks they've been very intense, and last night was the most intense yet. I'm pretty sure I was screaming in my sleep last night in one dream about one of my sisters refusing to use my new name or respect my wishes.

Have you ever heard of Sleep paralysis?  It can cause something similiar to a regular nightmare but much more intense.
I've had this on and off for my entire life but usually no more than 2 to 3 episodes a year.  For me it manifests as the sort of dream where someone is trying to break into your house or hurt you.  You can feel yourself trying to run or fight back, but your body just won't respond.  Or you try to scream, but nothing comes out.  Sometimes you are lucid during the dream...you know that you are dreaming... and try to wake up but can't.  Or you think you wake up only to find that you are still dreaming.
These are terrifying every time that I have one.

What is happening, from what I understand, is that while dreaming portions of your nervous system become active and serve to keep your body from actually moving to match the actions of your dreams.  This is normal.  This 'freezing up' is also same mechanism that causes morning wood.  It has nothing to do with arousal. It's just your body's way of keeping you from thrashing about as you sleep.  When this mechanism doesn't work you get cases of sleep walking.  When it is working very well, even though you are partially aware and awake, you get these sleep paralysis nightmares.  (Again, this is just how I understand it. I'm sure there is more science behind all of this.)

If this is an isolated incident, then I would probably just ignore it.  It just happens sometimes.  Mr. Happy is not coming back to life. He's just responding to something else that is going on with your parasympathetic nervous system.

If you are having these dreams on a regular basis, you may want to look at any meds you are taking, particularly any sleeping pills or anti-depressants.  These can include allergy meds like benedryl.  It can also be brought on by stress and poor sleeping habits.

I don't know if that explains any of the libido issues while you are awake, but I hope it helps explain some of the dream issues.  In any case,I hope it gets better for you.
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sam79

Thank you all for the responses, this does help.

Last night was still intense with dreaming ( again screaming at someone ), but there were no intimate dreams and there was no response from the thing down there. Thinking about this some more, I wonder if those intimate dreams are like the others, playing on my fears, of which intimacy is currently one. In fact, I think that is the case, because those dreams are far from enjoyable. And then the physical response is probably similar to my screaming/kicking etc while dreaming, which again wakes me up. Yes, that does make sense.

In terms of the return of libido, I suppose it is normal for women to have some form of sex drive. I just don't understand why it turned up now. Seemingly at the same time as the horrible dreams. While I don't appreciate it yet, it is easy enough to ignore for now.

I guess this might all be par for the course. With HRT actually physically altering our brains, I'm sure they do get a little out of order at times. I've certainly had periods of ditzyness beyond what is normal for me.
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Natalia

Quote from: SammyRose on January 25, 2014, 04:52:11 PM
I guess this might all be par for the course. With HRT actually physically altering our brains, I'm sure they do get a little out of order at times. I've certainly had periods of ditzyness beyond what is normal for me.

Wow, Now that you mentioned it...I feel terribly dizzy sometimes...I close my eyes and I feel like I will faint if I can't find a place to sit immediately...
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sam79

Quote from: Natalia on January 25, 2014, 05:00:21 PM
Wow, Now that you mentioned it...I feel terribly dizzy sometimes...I close my eyes and I feel like I will faint if I can't find a place to sit immediately...

I'm not sure feeling dizzy is good... could indicate other issues.

Sorry, the word I used was ditzyness. Extreme blondness ( no offense meant ) or temporary stupor and/or forgetfulness. 
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Ms Grace

Has your medication level changed recently? If you are on E injections you can experience considerable ups and downs between injections as your E levels will be in free fall before the next injection, thereby increasing libido. I had that problem when I was on Primogen Depot injections, it was a long time ago now so I can't remember if they were monthly or fortnightly. I also can't remember if the roller coaster started before or after the shot, but it was a roller coaster alright!

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sam79

Quote from: Ms Grace on January 25, 2014, 05:20:51 PM
Has your medication level changed recently? If you are on E injections you can experience considerable ups and downs between injections as your E levels will be in free fall before the next injection, thereby increasing libido. I had that problem when I was on Primogen Depot injections, it was a long time ago now so I can't remember if they were monthly or fortnightly. I also can't remember if the roller coaster started before or after the shot, but it was a roller coaster alright!

I'm on oral E and AAs, twice a day to try and smooth it out. Generally I'm very good at taking them at the same time.
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Jessica Merriman

Quote from: Natalia on January 25, 2014, 05:00:21 PM
Wow, Now that you mentioned it...I feel terribly dizzy sometimes...I close my eyes and I feel like I will faint if I can't find a place to sit immediately...
If you are on Spiro this could be a sign it is either lowering your blood pressure to much or you are dehydrated. Increase your water consumption and see if this corrects itself. Otherwise tell your doctor immediately. :)
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Natalia

Quote from: Jessica Merriman on January 25, 2014, 05:58:26 PM
If you are on Spiro this could be a sign it is either lowering your blood pressure to much or you are dehydrated. Increase your water consumption and see if this corrects itself. Otherwise tell your doctor immediately. :)

I am drinking more water to compensate the effects of spiro, but to tell the truth it only made me visit the toilet more often on the first week.

Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on January 26, 2014, 01:44:33 PM
My GP said that it is because of lower BP and there is not really much that could be done. It usually happens with me when I am sitting down and then I stand up too sharply - everything goes black for 1-2 secs and then it clears out.

Yes, with me it happens when I stand too. I've been monitoring my BP and it doesn't seem I have any issue...mostly of the times my pressure is normal or slightly high...must be some sudden fall as it returns to normal after a few seconds.
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Rachel

I have been on HRT for 8 months and I can not remember exactly but is would say I have not had a morning erection for 7 1/2 months. However, my bad dreams have not been extreme or physical as yours.

I usually awaken from a dream 2 hours prior to my alarm (1:45 AM) and on weekends without an alarm set. Some times I can not fall back to sleep. This was the case 2 weeks ago for a week when I agonized over seeing family. I was not going to take derogatory comments and I intended to be firm and if questioned answer. I would awake feeling sick. Nothing came of it. I had some fantastic long sleep for a few days after the family event.

Last week till Friday I dreamed I am on an elevator and the company leadership is on the elevator and the CFO says your hair is very long, next you will wear a dress, change your name and get a sex change ( he is a bit of an insensitive, know- it- all smart ass). I am there speechless and trapped with nowhere to go. I am in a panic with all eyes on me and people laughing. Needless to say when at work I am self conscious about my growing breasts and they are full and growing (not too big now but my shirts are starting to stretch). I am strengthening my identity and if asked I will not hide. I need to be prepared to come out fully at work. I awake feeling in an embarrassed panic.

Point being I think about events in the past and potential events in the future and my unconscious mind processes the events and I react to them as if they are real.  I practiced with my therapist what I was going to say if something came up at the family event. Initially my response would have been way out of character. I rehearsed a measured tactful response and action if it was not observed. It never happened but I had a huge amount of psychological pressure. I am learning to address my issues by discussing them and practicing measured responses. My hope it to listen to all my fears and address them productively.

Dreams can hurt and be a signal to address the pain.

Hugs and I wish for you sweet dreams.




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sam79

Some food for thought in your post Cynthia, thank you.

I wish you lots of luck with coming out at work. I hope it's smooth as can be.

All of these dreams are based around fears, which have not changed fundamentally although situations do. I think it's normal to process difficult situations while sleeping, and I certainly have had dreams about them over the course of transition, just never as strong or intense.

Most of my fears are all about situations with people who knew me before transition. And they're all actually happening to different degrees. People using the wrong name ( that must be #1 for transwomen/men ), and people trying to force my old life on the new me. I have been distancing myself from those who do the above. But it still doesn't stop the fear.

Last night was good though. Dreaming was back to normal, where they weren't intense. Still, dreams are only one piece of the puzzle.

After a very long chat with a friend last night, I've come to think that it's normal to have a libido, so while it's still unwanted at the moment, it's been accepted somewhat and shouldn't bother me too much more. And I didn't realise the impact of waiting for FFS... after deciding to go ahead with it, I kinda want it yesterday. The wait was causing unease looking in the mirror, until last night when realising that this was happening.

It's amazing how we can be hurt by things we don't even realise. Yet once known, suddenly they can be manageable.
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Maggiee17

:-*
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nether

I get those kinds of dreams when I don't "rub one out" for lack of a better term. I think it's just your body's way of getting the old cells out so it can make new ones, as sperm cells do not have a very long lifespan.

I don't mean to sound insensitive, I feel for you dear. Estrogen can produce a very strong sex drive in a way that you've never felt before.

I think it would be good for you to take care of business and see if things do subside.

I realize that this is difficult and might not be a possibility for you, but that is all I can think of at this point in time.

Good luck Hun!
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sam79

Another day on, glad to say that I'm getting back to normal during sleep.

Accepting a small return of libido, and realising the impatience for FFS has done me the world of good.

@Nether, my body no longer produces any of that male stuff. Not that I would even if it did.
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