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Opposite of "crossdress"? (and other counterpart observations)

Started by Kaelin, February 09, 2014, 02:04:14 PM

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Kaelin

Here's a thing that's been bugging me:

We've got male, female, and a whole supply of alternative gender identities (typically grouped under the umbrella of androgyne).

We've got gay (male and female, the latter often designed "lesbian" since gay disproportionately represents male), heterosexual, bisexual, and pansexual.  Even more, we have the framings of androphile and gynephile for those who don't like defining their attractions off the interplay of their own gender with a target gender or whose gender identity falls outside the gender binary (and I'm inclined to favor those terms anyway because they're more versatile), although these are still compatible with bisexual (androphile + gynephile together) and pansexual.  These terms aren't perfect, but we have a way to name heterosexuals.

We've got Black, White, Asian, and sometimes others to designate race, and we have Hispanic and others to (sort of) designate ethnicity.

Even more to the topic, there are cisvestites as a tongue-in-cheek counterpart for ->-bleeped-<-s, the former being a word that undermines the invective often intended when someone uses the latter.  Sometimes homovestite or homeovestite are used, but Wikipedia's discussion on isomers really makes a strong case for cis- and trans- as natural counterparts: 'The terms cis and trans are from Latin, in which cis means "on the same side" and trans means "on the other side" or "across".'  By similar reasoning, everyone is either a "->-bleeped-<-" or a "cissy" (and yes, the latter is pronounced the same as "sissy").

While there is a great deal of invisibility that comes with being white, male, or heterosexual, we at least possess words that allow us to name those identities.  They possess the advantage of not being the "other," but we at least possess the language of speaking to that point.

I'm stuck when it comes to crossdress/crossdressing/crossdresser.  Cisvestite is not a true counterpart.  Cross-pollination and self-pollination does not provide a suitable answer, because the use of self- does nothing to imply a gender-related discussion.  Crossroads (in both senses), crosswords, and cross-sectional studies don't seem to have suitable counterpart names.  I feel like there's something I'm missing, but it seems like "cross" is rigged to be an "other" word, so maybe some outside-the-box thinking (and outside the root word approach) can pay off here.

I say this at the same time that I feel that crossdress, crossdressing, and crossdresser are silly words.  Whether they are invoked/invokable depends on the surrounding culture (whose expectations change over time).  They are entrenched in the gender binary.  For all the baggage and meaning attached to crossdress/crossdressing/crossdresser, the utility of the words is no better than for the words dig/digging/digger or yell/yelling/yeller.  Granted, we do assign deeper meaning to teach/teaching/teacher and paint/painting/painter, but these two are examples I feel pertain to *roles*, and digging/yelling/crossdressing don't pertain to roles in the same sense.

Nevertheless, we need a word to go opposite of crossdress to help bring balance to the world.  Any ideas?
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Danielle Emmalee

Would the opposite of crossroads not be parallel roads?  Parallel dressing?  Or paradressing, from the Greek, para, meaning beside.
Discord, I'm howlin' at the moon
And sleepin' in the middle of a summer afternoon
Discord, whatever did we do
To make you take our world away?

Discord, are we your prey alone,
Or are we just a stepping stone for taking back the throne?
Discord, we won't take it anymore
So take your tyranny away!
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Jamie D

The entire idea of crossdressing speaks purely to gender expectations and societal norms.

Since I am 1/4th Scot, which here is the crossdresser?



Is the only difference the bag you got up front?

>:-)  Sorry, couldn't help myself.  :P
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ativan

Crossdress, crossdressing, and crossdresser are no longer actual terms.
You can still use them as words, but they have lost all definition as terms.
As words, you get to pretend they have a definition or meaning, but they really don't.
Made up. Imaginary. Unicornish. A sound from the Forest.
A vague shadow you may think you saw moving along one of the unnamed paths in that Forest.
A place where the very word is nothing more than an endless fading echo, echo, echo...
That Forest where you ask out loud, "what is gender?", and countless voices call out, yet you can't distinguish a single word.
A Forest that whispers to you in a language of it's own.
A Forest where you understand it's words, yet you can't repeat them.
That place that feels like home, but you don't know where that is,... you just know it's there.
It's a magical place, and the longer you stay, the more you become a part of it.
The more it becomes you... One day it becomes all that there is and ever will be.
Crossdress, crossdressing, crossdresser will still be there, but you don't care where.
Because you know, even deep down in the very shadows of the Forest floor, it doesn't need an opposite to exist.
Ativan
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Kaelin

Thanks everyone.  I was hope to make the issue easier for me to respond to, but sometimes you've just gotta slog through it.  In this case, I'll simply have to reject its merit as a label (see "yeller").  That, and my identity and motivation's got nothing to do with wanting to "cross" or "transform" per se when fetching a garment that happens to be a dress.
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EzraNightshade

neither, in Scotland both men and women wear Kilts.

OMG!
I had tears in my eyes..as I read this thread.. laughing.

so is it something this particular grouping of gender non identifying individuals, something I hadn't considered before that is related to the way I am also might make me think the way I do? .....because I felt like I could have made anyone of the posts.. depending on my mood.

I'm new.. so.. a bit giddy

The kilt is my Favorite bit of clothing.
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MadelineB

The opposite of crossdressing is samepantsing, of course. Some of my dearest friends are lifelong samepantsers. Whatever makes them happy, I say.
History, despite its wrenching pain, cannot be unlived, but if faced with courage, need not be lived again.
~Maya Angelou

Personal Blog: Madeline's B-Hive
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