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Started by Simon, February 22, 2014, 01:50:09 AM

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Simon

Hey guys, I haven't been on much lately since Spring semester started but I come bearing good news. I have scheduled my top surgery consult with Dr. Emerson in NC for March 13th! If I feel comfortable with him I'll be scheduling my surgery for late July, then I can get it done after my Summer classes are over. I am super stoked about it. Probably going to be the longest five months of my life.  :D

If you guys can think of any 'must ask' questions let me know. I'll definitely be writing them down because I'm really dysphoric about having to show my pre op chest during the consult. Definitely will be scatter brained the whole consult.
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Kreuzfidel

Congrats, that's amazing!  The time will really fly!
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Simon

Quote from: Kreuzfidel on February 22, 2014, 01:52:39 AM
Congrats, that's amazing!  The time will really fly!

Thanks, and I sure hope so.

Congrats to you, just seen you had your surgery! Bet it feels amazing.
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Kreuzfidel

Thanks, mate!  It sure does as you'll soon find out.  ;D  Most definitely worth the wait!
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LordKAT

healing time, expected time off, method of surgery, what are his specific requirements, do you need someone with you and if so, for how long.

Just thoughts.
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CursedFireDean

Since I live in NC, I'm pretty interested to hear how it goes!





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Bimmer Guy

Simon,
Congrats on scheduling the consult!  After the consult you will go nuts on the waiting.  It is like you are at the starting line after you do the consult, so the excitement is really high!

I know that you mentioned going to a surgeon near you before.  Was it this person?  I can't remember if you told us they did many of these surgeries or not.  Do they have a website we can check out?

I would suggest bringing someone with you to the consult.  When we are anxious, we don't process information as well as we would when relaxed.  You don't want to miss anything!
Top Surgery: 10/10/13 (Garramone)
Testosterone: 9/9/14
Hysto: 10/1/15
Stage 1 Meta: 3/2/16 (including UL, Vaginectomy, Scrotoplasty), (Crane, CA)
Stage 2 Meta: 11/11/16 Testicular implants, phallus and scrotum repositioning, v-nectomy revision.  Additional: Lipo on sides of chest. (Crane, TX)
Fistula Repair 12/21/17 (UPenn Hospital,unsuccessful)
Fistula Repair 6/7/18 (Nikolavsky, successful)
Revision: 1/11/19 Replacement of eroded testicle,  mons resection, cosmetic work on scrotum (Crane, TX)



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Simon

Quote from: Brett on February 22, 2014, 09:33:36 AM
I know that you mentioned going to a surgeon near you before.  Was it this person?  I can't remember if you told us they did many of these surgeries or not.  Do they have a website we can check out?

I'm not completely sure if I mentioned this guy or not, because I was also considering MacPhee in Raleigh and Zinsser in Virginia. I found Emerson through word of mouth. He doesn't have anything trans related online except a thing I found where he was replying to someone who was asking about top surgery. A guy I know just had a consult and told me Emerson said he has done twelve of these surgeries so far. Doesn't sound like much right? lol

I got interested in him after talking to and seeing a chest of one of his patients. This guy is around my size/build so it's a good idea of what I might get. If my results end up as good as the guy I seen I will be ecstatic. His peri is flawless but his double incision is also really good (I'll be having DI).

 
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Bimmer Guy

Quote from: Simon on February 22, 2014, 11:28:31 AM
I'm not completely sure if I mentioned this guy or not, because I was also considering MacPhee in Raleigh and Zinsser in Virginia. I found Emerson through word of mouth. He doesn't have anything trans related online except a thing I found where he was replying to someone who was asking about top surgery. A guy I know just had a consult and told me Emerson said he has done twelve of these surgeries so far. Doesn't sound like much right? lol

I got interested in him after talking to and seeing a chest of one of his patients. This guy is around my size/build so it's a good idea of what I might get. If my results end up as good as the guy I seen I will be ecstatic. His peri is flawless but his double incision is also really good (I'll be having DI).



Yes, MacPhee is the name I remember you mentioning.  Did you ever consult with him/anyone else?  Is Garramone off your list now?

12 surgeries is better than no surgeries!
Top Surgery: 10/10/13 (Garramone)
Testosterone: 9/9/14
Hysto: 10/1/15
Stage 1 Meta: 3/2/16 (including UL, Vaginectomy, Scrotoplasty), (Crane, CA)
Stage 2 Meta: 11/11/16 Testicular implants, phallus and scrotum repositioning, v-nectomy revision.  Additional: Lipo on sides of chest. (Crane, TX)
Fistula Repair 12/21/17 (UPenn Hospital,unsuccessful)
Fistula Repair 6/7/18 (Nikolavsky, successful)
Revision: 1/11/19 Replacement of eroded testicle,  mons resection, cosmetic work on scrotum (Crane, TX)



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Simon

Quote from: Brett on February 22, 2014, 12:50:04 PM
Yes, MacPhee is the name I remember you mentioning.  Did you ever consult with him/anyone else?  Is Garramone off your list now?

12 surgeries is better than no surgeries!

I had a friend who did a consult with MacPhee tell me his honest opinion. He said looking through her pics he was asking himself if he could live with her worst result if that is what he got. He said he couldn't. I decided to save my two hundred bucks (what she charges for a consultation) and look elsewhere.

This will be my first consultation. I'm not too fond of the thought of having to take my shirt off pre op with anyone, including a doctor. I like the result the guy I talked to has. It looks really nice. Emerson measures everyone and specifies the chest to your body instead of using a template like some surgeons do, I like that. I'm about 95% certain Emerson will be my surgeon. If I see a bunch of results that are wonky of course I'll reevaluate my plans. I don't see that happening though. His techniques aren't typical of other top surgeons. He doesn't make guys flat as a board unless it compliments their body type. He contours pecs on guys who are larger or have the muscles there to do it. That makes sense to me personally. I want to look as natural as possible and cis guys don't have completely flat chests unless they're tiny, I'm not a little guy.

Dr. Garramone and Dr Raphael are still on my list if things don't work out with this surgeon. I'm not ruling out the possibility that I might not feel he's a right fit, it happens. If I do decide to go to Florida or Texas it's going to take me six more months to do so. Have to save for travel, kennel my dog, wait for a Fall break in school, etc. I also have kidney scans coming up this Fall. If the Urologist says it's time for another kidney surgery then top surgery has to go on the back burner. I really hope everything works out with Dr. Emerson next month. He's only a little over an hour away so there's the convenience factor, it's cheaper, no travel, my dog can stay at home, and I can get it done before I have to get my kidney scans. That will be a huge stress relief in itself.
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CursedFireDean

Peri is in the realm of possibility for me, and I'd certainly love it if I could stay close to home for good results (even if I get DI, I'm not dead set on peri). Is there anywhere online possible to see some of his results or would I have to talk to guys he's operated on?





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Bimmer Guy

Quote from: Simon on February 22, 2014, 02:17:54 PM
I had a friend who did a consult with MacPhee tell me his honest opinion. He said looking through her pics he was asking himself if he could live with her worst result if that is what he got. He said he couldn't. I decided to save my two hundred bucks (what she charges for a consultation) and look elsewhere.

This will be my first consultation. I'm not too fond of the thought of having to take my shirt off pre op with anyone, including a doctor. I like the result the guy I talked to has. It looks really nice. Emerson measures everyone and specifies the chest to your body instead of using a template like some surgeons do, I like that. I'm about 95% certain Emerson will be my surgeon. If I see a bunch of results that are wonky of course I'll reevaluate my plans. I don't see that happening though. His techniques aren't typical of other top surgeons. He doesn't make guys flat as a board unless it compliments their body type. He contours pecs on guys who are larger or have the muscles there to do it. That makes sense to me personally. I want to look as natural as possible and cis guys don't have completely flat chests unless they're tiny, I'm not a little guy.

Dr. Garramone and Dr Raphael are still on my list if things don't work out with this surgeon. I'm not ruling out the possibility that I might not feel he's a right fit, it happens. If I do decide to go to Florida or Texas it's going to take me six more months to do so. Have to save for travel, kennel my dog, wait for a Fall break in school, etc. I also have kidney scans coming up this Fall. If the Urologist says it's time for another kidney surgery then top surgery has to go on the back burner. I really hope everything works out with Dr. Emerson next month. He's only a little over an hour away so there's the convenience factor, it's cheaper, no travel, my dog can stay at home, and I can get it done before I have to get my kidney scans. That will be a huge stress relief in itself.

Simon, it sounds like you have really, really thought this through.  Seems like a very sound decision.  I hope that you like him, so you can go with him as your surgeon.  Good luck!

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chipper, great list!
Top Surgery: 10/10/13 (Garramone)
Testosterone: 9/9/14
Hysto: 10/1/15
Stage 1 Meta: 3/2/16 (including UL, Vaginectomy, Scrotoplasty), (Crane, CA)
Stage 2 Meta: 11/11/16 Testicular implants, phallus and scrotum repositioning, v-nectomy revision.  Additional: Lipo on sides of chest. (Crane, TX)
Fistula Repair 12/21/17 (UPenn Hospital,unsuccessful)
Fistula Repair 6/7/18 (Nikolavsky, successful)
Revision: 1/11/19 Replacement of eroded testicle,  mons resection, cosmetic work on scrotum (Crane, TX)



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Simon

Quote from: CursedFireDean on February 22, 2014, 06:32:52 PM
Peri is in the realm of possibility for me, and I'd certainly love it if I could stay close to home for good results (even if I get DI, I'm not dead set on peri). Is there anywhere online possible to see some of his results or would I have to talk to guys he's operated on?

Dean, here is the only online source I've come across online to see his peri results. It's pretty close to perfection.



I know of one guy who is having peri with him in the next month and was quoted at a little over $5400. All of his surgeries (peri or DI) run between 5k and $6500 depending on what all he has to do in your case.
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King Malachite

Quote from: chipper on February 22, 2014, 02:45:16 PM
Not "must ask" for all... but this was the list of questions I brought to my consult. Some are more relevant than others.

has anyone died?
likelihood of developing a hematoma/ seroma?
skin necrosis- how to recognize dying skin?
other surgical complications?
how long should swelling occur before consulting a medical professional?
can i contact office about complications?

how far in advance should one quit smoking?
fasting before surgery?

how many additional pre-op appointments before procedure?
is blood work/physical needed for surgery?


how does the procedure work?

scar locations/ scarring/ scar treatments?
revisions?
how long under general anesthesia?
how long is the surgery itself?
recovery timeline?
post-op recovery questions: medications, showering, driving, post-op visits, drains, dog walking, class, sex.

is total cost including anesthesiologist, facility fee, surgeons fee, consultation/post-op follow-up fees and future revisions?
how many patients require revisions?
are there ways to lower the cost of the surgery?
how much of cost is required upon booking/before surgery?
how far in advance is payment due?

I'm intrested in the bolded questions as well, minus the sex one.  Also:

1. Does he take insurance?

2. What good hotels would he reccomend?

3. Would the price of surgery cost more heavier guys (including anesthsia fees)

4. How likely would there be dog earring with his DI procedure (particularly for heavier guys)5. Does he require a therapy letter?

6. Does he require patients to be on T and/or living as a man?

7. Out of all of the guy's he operated on, were any of them POC? (Just curious about this one, but it's not too much of  a "must ask" for me)

8.  How much experience does he have with working with heavier-set guys?

9.  Do I have to stop prescription medications (like high blood pressure pills) before surgery?

10. Do I have to come in for post op appointments?  If so, how many must I attend? 

11. What is his policy on revisions?

12. Are there any private nurses he reccomends?

13. Does he charge anything for writing a medical clearance paper for going back to work?

14.  Does he offer any liposuction procedures to go along with the top surgery?

15. What amount of pain is to be expected from a DI?

16.  How long must I stay in town?

I hope he works out for you, Simon.  I'm in SC so I may consider him since he is much closer.  If you do go with him, please tell us of your experience
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Simon

Quote from: Malachite on February 22, 2014, 11:06:23 PM
I hope he works out for you, Simon.  I'm in SC so I may consider him since he is much closer.  If you do go with him, please tell us of your experience.

Thanks, yeah if I end up having surgery with him I'll share my experience and some pics of my results. I looked at the questions you put up and the patient care lady who made my appointment did say a few of those already. A therapist letter is required. It can't be a letter from an Endo or a regular doctor, it must be a therapist, psychologist, or psychiatrist. I thought I had ran into a brick wall with that but I found one who will write my letter for $250. That's going to be an expensive piece of paper.

Also, you don't have to be on T but you must have been living as male for at least a year before surgery (of course they wouldn't know unless someone divulged they hadn't). I told her I have been on T over a year and she said that was a plus. His surgery fees with everything included run between 5k and $6500. It all depends on how much lipo he is going to be doing. She didn't tell me a time frame for revisions but they are included in the price as are the follow up visits. Dog ears can typically be revised under local anesthesia (they numb you up and give you some nerve meds basically) in the surgical room on site. This group of surgeons has four locations in the area and one has surgery rooms.
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Felix

My Oregon medicaid knew I was getting top surgery because I am transgender, but told me if I wanted it within a year instead of a decade from now, I'd have to get it coded as preventative for breast cancer and have all of my breast tissue removed. I'm okay with that (do have a ton of cancer in my family), but any advice I give has to be taken with a grain of salt because my surgery was atypical for a transman.

Dogears are one of the most common things requiring followup, and it looks like you've already got that covered. I have a small one on the left side, and my insurance won't pay for revision because it was caused by an emergency re-incision and clot removal after my autistic daughter punched me in the chest a few times shortly after the first surgery. That's not at all a normal complication, but I'm not sure that insurance would treat any complications as normal even if they were.

If it matters to you, you should discuss very clearly whether you are more concerned with aesthetic appearance or preservation of sensation. If I had been able to pick my own surgeon I would have prioritized nipple feeling over nipple placement. I have seen multiple cases where aesthetics were paramount, but nipple necrosis (minor or extensive) happened anyway. Same for the other way around, sensation being prioritized but left patchy or extensively lost to nerve damage.

If your psyche is at risk when you are out of your element and around strangers, you may want to ask (or warn) ahead of time about how good the surgeon or your hospital and their staff are at using the correct pronouns. I have a deep voice and an unmistakably male name, and I often forget that I'm even trans because it hardly ever comes up, but when I go to the hospital I get called "she" and "maam" pretty often. I assume it's hard to see past my medical charts and my basic anatomy, and I don't blame the staff for that. There have been times in my life when it would have been really hurtful to deal with, though.

I can't think of anything else that isn't obvious. My hospital refused to release me to another adult when they learned that we were planning to take the bus or train home, and we waited for hours until the drugs wore off enough for me to lie to them and tell them we had a car. That seems a quirky and uncommon problem, but keep in mind that the hospital will want to know how you will get home and who will take care of you while you recover.

Regardless of all the details and whether you remember everything you want to ask, congratulations. :) This is such a wonderful step and I'm glad it's on your horizon.
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aleon515

The private nurse is kind of overkill, imo. Unless you have nobody to go with you. If that's the case, you might actually try and pay a friend or acquaintance. Too bad it's Ohio. I always thought that someone might have really liked what would have been a free expenses paid trip to Florida with maybe 1 day that things might have been less pleasant. If you have a peri, I don't think the nurse would have anything whatsoever to do because for DI I didn't need that much.

It is really rare now for surgeons to require you to be on T, care whether you are living as male, etc. They usually want to know that you are wired correctly so that you aren't going to sue them or something. So a letter of some kind is usual, but not always.

To my knowledge no one has died of top surgery. It might be that someone has died from other things such as a condition that was not treated or something. You lose maybe a thimbleful of blood or something like that.

Pain and recovery time are highly individual. I know of guys who were in a LOT of pain right after surgery. I don't know personally but Leland at New Beginnings told me of guys who had the Vicodin refilled and took the whole second bottle. I did not take any Vicodin, leading me to believe old guys are tougher. LOL. I know many guys who took between 1 and 5 Vicodin. You will mostly be more sore and uncomfortable and itchy than actually hurt. I was actually more uncomfortable about 1-2 weeks after surgery as the nerves seemed to be sorting themselves out. I don't think peri is as uncomfortable as DI, there is just a lot less going on.

I can't imagine you won't come in for post op, though I don't know what the procedure is for peri. But they will remove some stitches, drains (if you need them), etc. You really don't want to keep them.

POC guys will have different looking color scars than lighter skin guys.


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King Malachite

Quote from: Simon on February 23, 2014, 12:48:26 AM
Thanks, yeah if I end up having surgery with him I'll share my experience and some pics of my results. I looked at the questions you put up and the patient care lady who made my appointment did say a few of those already. A therapist letter is required. It can't be a letter from an Endo or a regular doctor, it must be a therapist, psychologist, or psychiatrist. I thought I had ran into a brick wall with that but I found one who will write my letter for $250. That's going to be an expensive piece of paper.

Also, you don't have to be on T but you must have been living as male for at least a year before surgery (of course they wouldn't know unless someone divulged they hadn't). I told her I have been on T over a year and she said that was a plus. His surgery fees with everything included run between 5k and $6500. It all depends on how much lipo he is going to be doing. She didn't tell me a time frame for revisions but they are included in the price as are the follow up visits. Dog ears can typically be revised under local anesthesia (they numb you up and give you some nerve meds basically) in the surgical room on site. This group of surgeons has four locations in the area and one has surgery rooms.

Wow, thanks for that information!  Do you know if Dr. Emerson does phone consultation with just sending him photos of the chest? 

Also, I like what you said in another post having being able to live with the worst surgery result a surgeon has if that's the result you got.  When I think about it, that can be an excellent tool to help determine the top surgeon that's right for me.

Quote from: aleon515 on February 23, 2014, 02:02:05 PM
The private nurse is kind of overkill, imo. Unless you have nobody to go with you. If that's the case, you might actually try and pay a friend or acquaintance.

I may have one friend in another state that may be able to go with me, but I'm not banking on it since she has a busy schedule.  Other than her, I don't have any other friends or acquaintances that would go with me so I'd likely have to hire a private nurse if I went to someone outside of Garramone. :/
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Simon

Quote from: Malachite on February 23, 2014, 09:20:51 PM
Wow, thanks for that information!  Do you know if Dr. Emerson does phone consultation with just sending him photos of the chest?

That I don't know. If you call I'm sure they could tell you. I live a little over an hour away from their offices so they didn't tell me if they did that or not.
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