different identity

[kelly_aus]

I was going to respond with something pithy, but I can't be bothered..

You are a disaster waiting to happen, I'm glad I won't be around when it happens.

[bingunginter]

You are a disaster waiting to happen, I'm glad I won't be around when it happens

I appreciate your pittiness.
thank you assuming disaster is going to happen

[Allyda]

I'm done with this thread. It seems the OP has an answer for everything. Well, if you know it all why are you even here? Maybe you should start a blog, or....something.

I thank all my lovely sisters here for having better self control than I. Kelly your absolutely correct -A disaster waiting to happen.

[bingunginter]

It seems the OP has an answer for everything

Lol no, I don't have answer for everything.

Well, if you know it all why are you even here?

I'm not welcomed here ?

[Allyda]

Lol no, I don't have answer for everything.
I'm not welcomed here ?

Please don't make silly assumptions, or put words in my mouth. It's rude and unbecoming of a lady -any lady. Of course you are welcome here. That's not what I said nor meant, and I think you knew that.

[bingunginter]

Please don't make silly assumptions, or put words in my mouth. It's rude and unbecoming of a lady -any lady. Of course you are welcome here. That's not what I said nor meant, and I think you knew that.

haha ok thanks

[stephaniec]

well. I'll throw my two cents in the ring. I hope the OP got the advice the OP wanted and the reason for the post. We  are here to help if we can.

[Jessica Merriman]

I'm done with this thread. It seems the OP has an answer for everything. Well, if you know it all why are you even here? Maybe you should start a blog, or....something.

I thank all my lovely sisters here for having better self control than I. Kelly your absolutely correct -A disaster waiting to happen.

My patience is exhausted as well. After two years on HRT (self medicated) you are already permanently altered. That is a disaster and it has already happened. You are welcome here like every one else, but don't ask a question and then argue about the answers. Take the information you are given respectfully and do with it what you will. Many well respected and intelligent people offered opinions and truly tried to understand your position. You were not treated any differently from other members here. The difference is they accepted our advice and used it or not. You were given advice and told us how your superior knowledge was better than all of our advice combined. I really feel for you and hope some day you will accept any assistance to deal with whatever is bothering you. Until that time you will be stuck in what ever situation you are in. Just a word of advice for the future. If you are out in the cold and dark and a warm door opens, don't slam it shut before you go in. Take care and I truly hope you find acceptance with yourself and emerge healthy and happy.

PS-To all my family members here thank you for the suggestions you gave and the restraint you showed. It makes me even prouder to be your sister.

[bingunginter]

else, but don't ask a question and then argue about the answers. Take the information you are given respectfully and do with it what you will. Many well respected and intelligent people offered opinions and truly tried to understand your position.

I'm not arguing. I do accept all the information and the advice here respectfully. I acknowledge that traditional therapy work wonderfully for them. I'm just saying while some things work wonderfully for them, it just happen that it doesn't work for me. I will have to try different way to deal with it. I'm gladly hear other input. I don't pretend I have better knowledge than anybody.

Take care and I truly hope you find acceptance with yourself and emerge healthy and happy.

Thanks, I do accept myself.

I'm just curious why exactly you think my life is a disaster anyway? Because I identify as male on the inside ? The HRT ?

[Satinjoy]

Hi girls

I have run out of wisdom and had emotional recoil here.  The emotional recoil is the fear that if binguninter is dysphoric, then our OP is at high risk, and if I give the wrong advice, I could cut her/him off from her main support system - this forum.  That is unacceptable.    You had a glimpse of my story, it was one in ten thousand that I would survive my 20's.  This thing, when or if we hit the wall, is dangerous.  It risks self harm in many ways.

I keep finding layers of gunk and fear that blocked my true self from coming to light, starting with acceptance that I am TS.  This thread changed my center to something more healthy - the female core is starting to feel safe and another layer of denial is coming off.  I just came out of an intense session dealing with physical and emotional blocks and got more healing.  Thanks girls - all of you.

Be careful please Bing.  The intensity of the thread is because we understand what is at stake - ALL of us do - and there are too many tragedies among our sisterhood.  We all don't want that to happen to you - even if you are right on center, right now, we still need you to be safe.   What I am saying is don't underestimate this dysphoria.

I wish you the best of luck, peace, acceptance, and the knowledge that nobody  in here wants anything bad to happen.

Just be careful.  If it gets tricky for you, RUN for help.  If it doesn't, you are one very lucky individual.  Heed the wisdom of the board, remember it if a time of trouble comes.... your journey is your own, you are responsible for your actions.  The letter is about knowing the consequences of your actions and making a sensible decision based on that understanding.  We know where you stand on that based on the previous post.

Please be careful dear.   Don't walk the path I walked to get here- I had to get very drunk to come out and then who knew what would happen - it all get tied together and the root for me was trying to escape the pain as I could not accept my transgendered self in the early years.

Be careful with this dysphoria.   I personally cannot handle it without help.  Even now.  It is overpowering.

Best to all here, many thanks.

So nice to have so much healing .  I don't feel alone any more.

[jebee]

yet again RLE is proven to be a necessity

[Bardoux]

I must say i find it very dismaying how people insist on the need to categorise. I read the first page, and came across the comment 'you will be seen as a man in a dress'. Excuse me? Everyone is different, there are plenty of cis women who act in a very masculine manner but still identify as female. Are they perceived as men in dresses? Or perhaps the implication was that in order to 'pass' a transgendered person must fit in with gender normative behaviour. Tosh.

Skipping to the last page it seems that people have had enough of the OP because she refuses to see a therapist. Annoyed that she refuses to acknowledge that she is supposedly a 'disaster waiting to happen' (real classy with that one). Why is it that people are turned away in this way? Right from the get go, i HAD to go see a therapist in order to start transition, and i said to him matter of factly that on the gender spectrum i consider myself to be a masculine female. I identify as female, i believe my body should be female, but i don't subscribe to the whole 'women should be pretty dainty little flowers who should date men' train of thought. What on earth is wrong with that? and equally what is wrong with the OP expressing how she feels on a forum which is meant to be inclusive?

I am very, very, disappointed in a lot of you.

[Jessica Merriman]

I must say i find it very dismaying how people insist on the need to categorise. I read the first page, and came across the comment 'you will be seen as a man in a dress'. Excuse me? Everyone is different, there are plenty of cis women who act in a very masculine manner but still identify as female. Are they perceived as men in dresses? Or perhaps the implication was that in order to 'pass' a transgendered person must fit in with gender normative behaviour. Tosh.

Skipping to the last page it seems that people have had enough of the OP because she refuses to see a therapist. Annoyed that she refuses to acknowledge that she is supposedly a 'disaster waiting to happen' (real classy with that one). Why is it that people are turned away in this way? Right from the get go, i HAD to go see a therapist in order to start transition, and i said to him matter of factly that on the gender spectrum i consider myself to be a masculine female. I identify as female, i believe my body should be female, but i don't subscribe to the whole 'women should be pretty dainty little flowers who should date men' train of thought. What on earth is wrong with that? and equally what is wrong with the OP expressing how she feels on a forum which is meant to be inclusive?

I am very, very, disappointed in a lot of you.

Bardoux the issue is not with how or why the OP is like he is. Everyone to their own I say. The problem is self medication and doctor steering he is employing and the delusion that HRT is reversible and not dangerous. HRT is a very serious regimen and I state that as a professional Paramedic. Did you miss the part where he said he would "TRY Transition"? He makes it seem like a harmless game. All of us have advocated for doing it the right way with medical monitoring and support. How in the world can you be disappointed in us for caring it is done correctly and safely! We would NOT be showing proper support if we did not bring these concerns to him. The disaster we all refer to is the fact that more than likely he is now STERILE because of casually trying HRT on his own as well as other irrevocable damage. Does that not concern you at all? I think everyone showed a great amount of tolerance and caring in dealing with this topic. I am VERY PROUD of all here who attempted to understand the motivations and thought processes here.

[V M]

Hi friends 

This topic has run it's course and is locked

Thank you

V M