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Parting words and my feelings of betrayal from this community

Started by jussmoi4nao, February 19, 2014, 03:16:08 PM

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Tori

Aloha justmoi,

I wish you the very best.

Seems this last week, our community went to war with one radical feminist and her invisible army.

So sorry to see there has been collateral damage.

You did nothing wrong. You will be missed.


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stephaniec

Quote from: Tori on February 19, 2014, 09:05:47 PM
Aloha justmoi,

I wish you the very best.

Seems this last week, our community went to war with one radical feminist and her invisible army.

So sorry to see there has been collateral damage.

You did nothing wrong. You will be missed.
ditto
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kathyk

Quote from: jussmoi4nao on February 19, 2014, 07:24:15 PM
But anyway, yeah, this has all left me emotionally drained. All I did was try to stand up for someone who was getting a lot of backlash for sharing a personal experience of harrassment. If you wana hate on me for that, okay, I don't want you on my side anyway.

But yeah seeya guys, bye.

Hugs for a bright young lady.
Peace and love.  Katherine





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sad panda

haha. the sad part is the only reason anyone puts up with the OP's post is cuz she's pretty. If you say that stuff without a picture here, people freak and ban. But post your femmey face and ya get the affection of the vicarious masses who wanna spend another life in your clique. Let's be honest, it's not the fringe of the trans community. The whole MTF board oozes sex most of the time, whether it's T&A bs, weird internalized sexism/objectification, or just graphic sexualizing of people. Not even saying it's anyone's honest intention and not saying it's everyone here, just most. It's just warped, weird and overbearing views about women and about being a woman that are so out of touch. And yeah, wayyyyyy too much guilty libido. Freud would have a field day up in this place.... and it seems like even "hormones killing my icky man sex drive" (oh please) isn't enough for most...
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Jamie D

Quote from: sad panda on February 20, 2014, 12:38:53 AM
haha. the sad part is the only reason anyone puts up with the OP's post is cuz she's pretty. If you say that stuff without a picture here, people freak and ban. But post your femmey face and ya get the affection of the vicarious masses who wanna spend another life in your clique. Let's be honest, it's not the fringe of the trans community. The whole MTF board oozes sex most of the time, whether it's T&A bs, weird internalized sexism/objectification, or just graphic sexualizing of people. Not even saying it's anyone's honest intention and not saying it's everyone here, just most. It's just warped, weird and overbearing views about women and about being a woman that are so out of touch. And yeah, wayyyyyy too much guilty libido. Freud would have a field day up in this place.... and it seems like even "hormones killing my icky man sex drive" (oh please) isn't enough for most...

Do you think what you are saying applies to me?

I'd like your honest opinion.  I've been so dispirited lately, by what I see, I am ready to pull the plug.
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TerriT

Quote from: sad panda on February 20, 2014, 12:38:53 AM
haha. the sad part is the only reason anyone puts up with the OP's post is cuz she's pretty. If you say that stuff without a picture here, people freak and ban. But post your femmey face and ya get the affection of the vicarious masses who wanna spend another life in your clique. Let's be honest, it's not the fringe of the trans community. The whole MTF board oozes sex most of the time, whether it's T&A bs, weird internalized sexism/objectification, or just graphic sexualizing of people. Not even saying it's anyone's honest intention and not saying it's everyone here, just most. It's just warped, weird and overbearing views about women and about being a woman that are so out of touch. And yeah, wayyyyyy too much guilty libido. Freud would have a field day up in this place.... and it seems like even "hormones killing my icky man sex drive" (oh please) isn't enough for most...

Redacted post, I was out line.
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Tori

Sigh...

I am gonna' take a self-imposed time out.

The internets are getting WAY too serious.


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sad panda

i have posted my pic here a million times and that's a million times too many.... how I look is totally irrelevent but it changed how people treat me when I really have a horrible personality and I know it.... I mean that happens everywhere in the world it's just kinda especially bad in the trans community. let's be honest, all people care about when it comes to a trans girl is looks. It boils down to sex and sexiness. Especially in the general public but even people in the trans community, even if they're nice to unpassable trans people they're a little extra nice to very passable trans people. if you don't pass as a trans girl the worldhates you and if you pass the world doesn't know just how much soul crushing ->-bleeped-<- you are struggling through and you have to try so hard to feel like a human being but you aren't one. girls aren't human beings, they are bodies, esp if they're pretty bodies. Bad enough as a cis girl but as an outwardly cis girl with a massive hole inside you have to desperately hide from everyone it is impossible and the worst part is that NOBODY understands. Not trans people, nobody. They understand trans lesbians, husbands, fathers, army vets, hot blooded american dudes, act or not... they understand maleness and male history and life experience. They understand women in the context of sex and the greatest sin here is uncannily resembling an actual woman. Cuz all you are anywhere is a (passable) body. whatever.

jamie... I hope you're ok... :( my post isn't personal to anyone.... actually it's personal to me. This is my personal experience and it is a mix of things and I just wanna scream it sometimes.

tbh I am feeling pretty bad right now too so i shouldn't be posting... 
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Cindy

OK people.

I'm back, extremely tired so will not be doing much tonight but ................

I'm saddened, and my sadness will be actioned.

I'm very disappointed.

Cindy
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Michelle69

Quote from: sad panda on February 20, 2014, 02:48:59 AM
i have posted my pic here a million times and that's a million times too many.... how I look is totally irrelevent but it changed how people treat me when I really have a horrible personality and I know it.... I mean that happens everywhere in the world it's just kinda especially bad in the trans community. let's be honest, all people care about when it comes to a trans girl is looks. It boils down to sex and sexiness. Especially in the general public but even people in the trans community, even if they're nice to unpassable trans people they're a little extra nice to very passable trans people. if you don't pass as a trans girl the worldhates you and if you pass the world doesn't know just how much soul crushing ->-bleeped-<- you are struggling through and you have to try so hard to feel like a human being but you aren't one. girls aren't human beings, they are bodies, esp if they're pretty bodies. Bad enough as a cis girl but as an outwardly cis girl with a massive hole inside you have to desperately hide from everyone it is impossible and the worst part is that NOBODY understands. Not trans people, nobody. They understand trans lesbians, husbands, fathers, army vets, hot blooded american dudes, act or not... they understand maleness and male history and life experience. They understand women in the context of sex and the greatest sin here is uncannily resembling an actual woman. Cuz all you are anywhere is a (passable) body. whatever.

jamie... I hope you're ok... :( my post isn't personal to anyone.... actually it's personal to me. This is my personal experience and it is a mix of things and I just wanna scream it sometimes.

tbh I am feeling pretty bad right now too so i shouldn't be posting... 

What the...

I had decided not to post anything unless I had transitioning questions, but...

Coming to the conclusion that I no longer desire women, losing my libido because of it, realizing it's because I feel like I am a woman, and then after months of denying it I decided to be a woman on the outside as well as in -  is this all that's left for me. If the stars align, the tide is right and god is answering prayers that day... I end this process actually looking to the world like the woman I feel inside and that is waiting? What's the point? Not able to live as a man, this is what I have to look forward to by becoming a woman.

Thanks for the imagery, the gun is starting to look good again.

I resent your broad spectrum remarks on how the world and particularly the trans community look at, and treat women though. Child, man and now a woman I have never even thought, even in the darkest part of my mind, of a woman like that.
I can't be a man, if being a woman will only bring pain, then I am done.

For all of you who have been so kind, thank you. I think I may not come back to this site.
If I decide to get out of bed today, and still decide to go through the process of living, I will do it as a woman. It is becoming increasing clear, however, that I will have to do it on my own.

Good bye.




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Cindy

OK. I've just got back from a long flight, had to deal with emergencies at home and now read all this rubbish.

Until my brain has caught up please everyone take a break.

No one excludes anyone from this site except GMs and Admin.

Everyones opinion is valid.

Everyone is welcome unless they break ToS and then staff will deal with it.

No one else.

So calm down and give me a chance to recover.
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Dahlia

Quote from: jussmoi4nao on February 19, 2014, 03:37:56 PM



@Sarah7,

if I struck a nerve.

You did. But if you read her last, very extensive post/rant on *that* thread you'll see that's she's competing with the OP over who's the most 'victimised victim'....and trying to shut her up by using all kind of 'arguments' as some kind of 'inverted bragging'.

Quote from: jussmoi4nao on February 19, 2014, 03:16:08 PM


perhaps the product of years of immersion in masculine socialization many on this site endured is to blame for some of the disbelief.

the effects of being top dog in a sexist society for so long may have left some users out of touch on the reality of sexism and harrassment.

there are users on this board who have lived masculine lives for 40+ years, etc. and are not as attuned to what sexual harrassment and intimidation feels like. This is a reality.



The utmost hilarious thing about all this is....that some of  those MTF call themselves 'feminists' making *that* sound like some kind a (newly found) 'fetish'.

Perhaps you've noticed several posters leashed out at the OP first, calling her a liar  and then at me.....as I fully expected ;-)

And then there/were are some gruesome MTF stories about MTF sexually harrassed by MTF which, of course, were totally ignored.

Anyway, I'd like to thank you for your frank, honest posts and wish you all the best!

*non sexual* hug! ;-)



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