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DES babies?

Started by Emmaline, April 13, 2014, 09:50:14 AM

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Emmaline

Hi all.  I am researching about d.e.s at the moment as I fit the symptoms exactly (varicocele, testicular cysts, sex atypical features, low T and... ba ba ba boom- transgender).  I am trying to track down my medical records in the uk- but considering the number of miscarriages prior to my birth and the year (1975)- it is looking very likely that I am a des baby.

So any others know this, maybe have sought legal compensation or have tracked records down in the uk who have tips that would be peachy.

Body... meet brain.  Now follow her lead and there will be no more trouble, you dig?



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justpat

   Welcome to the crowd. There seems to be quite a few of us here and several good posts have been made since you became a member. There is a lot of good information available but I guess after being overwhelmed by it I just accepted it and have been happy ever since.I can't change the past and I feel lucky to have been born this way.  Good Luck on your journey.  Pat  DES 1950
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Dee Marshall

I have no idea, but strong suspicions. My mother had at least 5 pregnancies, 7 children and only 3 of us survived. Also I was the last and was conceived AFTER she had surgery and was believed sterile. Good candidate to be  a DES son. I've had a lot of the known symptoms, but, no records, and Mom is long dead. I'll never really know. Does anyone else find themselves getting angry at the possibility that you're going through all of this because of medical laxness? I came to terms with being trans only recently. Wondered if I might have been intersexed at birth. Wondered, given the twins in my family, if I might be a mosaic chimera. Just wondered without real answers. I guess nothing really matters except that somehow I'm trans whatever caused it, but the thought that someONE not someTHING made me this way makes me SO angry!

Where did that rant come from?
April 22, 2015, the day of my first face to face pass in gender neutral clothes and no makeup. It may be months to the next one, but I'm good with that!

Being transgender is just a phase. It hardly ever starts before conception and always ends promptly at death.

They say the light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train. I say, climb aboard!
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Jessica Merriman

Quote from: Dee Marshall on April 13, 2014, 12:07:57 PM
the thought that someONE not someTHING made me this way makes me SO angry!
I  hear you on that! DES 1965.
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Emmaline

Amazing story isn't it?  Proved ineffective for miscarriages and still being prescribed a decade later.  Horrifying.
Body... meet brain.  Now follow her lead and there will be no more trouble, you dig?



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Sydney_NYC

DES 1970 (US) baby here. In my case my mother didn't even know she was taking it as it was in her prescription prenatal vitamins that her doctor had given her. She had no history of miscarriages either. In the US they were suppose to stop using it in 1972, but I'm not sure about the UK.

My HRT doctor look one look at my body (had feminine hip/waist even before HRT) and suspected DES before I even mentioning it. I was going to ask her about it too.
Sydney





Born - 1970
Came Out To Self/Wife - Sept-21-2013
Started therapy - Oct-15-2013
Laser and Electrolysis - Oct-24-2013
HRT - Dec-12-2013
Full time - Mar-15-2014
Name change  - June-23-2014
GCS - Nov-2-2017 (Dr Rachel Bluebond-Langner)


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Emmaline

Early eighties in the uk.  Plus we had des in beef production to increase meat yield.  Aaaaand I grew up on a cattle farm. 
Body... meet brain.  Now follow her lead and there will be no more trouble, you dig?



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Jill F

Probable.  I had persistent Mullerian duct syndrome and my brother had cryptorchidism.

I was born in 1969 and I knew something was wrong when I was 4.
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Northern Jane

Not sure here. Born 1949 with many developmental problems (heart, respiratory, etc.) XY, uterus, ambiguouse genitalia, assigned male, identified female from before earliest memory, thought I was a transsexual - didn't find out about the other stuff until my 50's. Never though of suing anyone - just a shtyie break.
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Ms Grace

It's probable, Emmaline. I have those symptoms and born in Australia 1966. My mother and father had tried for several years to have a child and I was their first but if there were miscarriage concerns I've never been told. My mother did ask if my "condition" might have been caused by something she took during pregnancy (without elaborating on what that might have been). I told her no, partly because I don't want her to beat herself over it and also because I'm happy enough to be me without finding a cause or excuse. Besides, if it was that DES stuff that caused me to be trans* I owe it my gratitude, I'd rather be a transwoman than a cis man.
Grace
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Transition 1.0 (Julie): HRT 1989-91
Self-denial: 1991-2013
Transition 2.0 (Grace): HRT June 24 2013
Full-time: March 24, 2014 :D
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