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Alone the rest of my life!!

Started by Just Shelly, May 16, 2014, 09:54:05 PM

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Just Shelly

I guess I will just be alone the rest of my life!!

I can pass, blend, assimilate, and be as authentic of a woman that even most do not believe it when I tell them my born gender. My life these last 3 years has become more normal than I could ever imagine. I am just another typical female to all, even if I don't look my best! I have seemed to attract attention from many men (I don't think I'm anything to brag about) and I have been intimate with a few men without them knowing. I get asked out here and there but do not pursue things because its someone from work or someone that may have knew me in my past. I am a normal women in every part of my life, except when it comes to dating. The truth is I can't compete with the "real" thing!!!

I finally met a man that I felt deserved to know the truth. We had been seeing each other for about 3 months, we shared quite a few intimate moments and even slept together 3 times. I insisted that he don't touch down below, he respected that. The guilt of hiding my past and the fact I was falling for him made me feel I needed to tell him, after telling him I got the typical questions like "why don't you search for someone like you"? or "you should find a good woman" blah blah blah.....I spent the next 2 days in bed in deep depression. He finally did talk to me again and told me he missed me very much and was willing to give it a try, but I'm not sure what his meaning of "try" is!!

Seems I was good enough to be by his side like some trophy....or even in his words "look good on the back of his Harley" but once I told him about my past all that changed. I was very happy that after we talked quite a bit he did decide to give me a chance, but what type of chance is this when I'm now treated very differently!

I hate being trans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The day I finally get surgery is the day I stop telling ANYONE about my past!!
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Carol2000

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Quote from: Just Shelly on May 16, 2014, 09:54:05 PM
I guess I will just be alone the rest of my life!!

I can pass, blend, assimilate, and be as authentic of a woman that even most do not believe it when I tell them my born gender. My life these last 3 years has become more normal than I could ever imagine. . . . .
I hate being trans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The day I finally get surgery is the day I stop telling ANYONE about my past!!

Just one question. Why wait until you have had the surgery before you stop telling people you are trans? I agree, it's nothing to be ashamed about, but if you want to lead a "normal" life, stop telling people.

Your biker could be the one for you, but he may be worried if he knows you have a tendency to tell people your secret.

I transitioned at work in the early 80s and when I left there to join another company post-op in 1985 I told no one. My husband and I first met as work colleagues in 1987, he was married. But we lost contact for a while after he changed jobs after which he had divorced his wife. We hooked up again in 1997 and now he was single we decided to share our lives together despite the fact he didn't know the truth about my past. I have two children and I realised it was going to be difficult to keep that a secret. So, rather than him finding out by accident, six months after we had moved in together I told him my secret.

Sure, he was very shocked and I thought the relationship wouldn't survive it, but a couple weeks later he gave me a hug and gradually it was ok. We married in 2006 and will be celebrating our eighth anniversary next month. None of his side of the family know my secret and they never will.

Remember, if you want a "normal life", stop telling people. It's not for everyone and no doubt some on here will disagree with me. I am not ashamed of my past -- let's face it, if I was I wouldn't have told my husband, but as a result we are leading a normal life as a married couple, and that was my dream.

Live the dream

Caroline
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stephaniec

Quote from: Caroline2000 on May 17, 2014, 02:42:07 AM
Just one question. Why wait until you have had the surgery before you stop telling people you are trans? I agree, it's nothing to be ashamed about, but if you want to lead a "normal" life, stop telling people.

Your biker could be the one for you, but he may be worried if he knows you have a tendency to tell people your secret.

I transitioned at work in the early 80s and when I left there to join another company post-op in 1985 I told no one. My husband and I first met as work colleagues in 1987, he was married. But we lost contact for a while after he changed jobs after which he had divorced his wife. We hooked up again in 1997 and now he was single we decided to share our lives together despite the fact he didn't know the truth about my past. I have two children and I realised it was going to be difficult to keep that a secret. So, rather than him finding out by accident, six months after we had moved in together I told him my secret.

Sure, he was very shocked and I thought the relationship wouldn't survive it, but a couple weeks later he gave me a hug and gradually it was ok. We married in 2006 and will be celebrating our eighth anniversary next month. None of his side of the family know my secret and they never will.

Remember, if you want a "normal life", stop telling people. It's not for everyone and no doubt some on here will disagree with me. I am not ashamed of my past -- let's face it, if I was I wouldn't have told my husband, but as a result we are leading a normal life as a married couple, and that was my dream.

Live the dream

Caroline
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I agree with you. the important part is you were honest with your husband , that's really all that matters.
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BunnyBee

I am so sorry Shelly.  The sad thing is I think most men are this way, but there are some out there that aren't so there is some hope to have.  But I know that feeling.  Last summer I had similar happen to me like four times I think it was and I still feel kind of scarred by it.  I was telling people before the first date though, so I am sure this rejection feels so much worse for you.  But you know, if he is one of these kind of men, and is willing to even try to get past his prejudice, that tells you how amazing you must be!  Even if he isn't able to, I hope you take that much from it.  You do deserve somebody that doesn't have that kind of prejudice to start with though.
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defective snowflake

Hey, at least you're trying. I don't even have the nerve to.
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Just Shelly

Quote from: Caroline2000 on May 17, 2014, 02:42:07 AM
Just one question. Why wait until you have had the surgery before you stop telling people you are trans? I agree, it's nothing to be ashamed about, but if you want to lead a "normal" life, stop telling people.

Your biker could be the one for you, but he may be worried if he knows you have a tendency to tell people your secret.

I transitioned at work in the early 80s and when I left there to join another company post-op in 1985 I told no one. My husband and I first met as work colleagues in 1987, he was married. But we lost contact for a while after he changed jobs after which he had divorced his wife. We hooked up again in 1997 and now he was single we decided to share our lives together despite the fact he didn't know the truth about my past. I have two children and I realised it was going to be difficult to keep that a secret. So, rather than him finding out by accident, six months after we had moved in together I told him my secret.

Sure, he was very shocked and I thought the relationship wouldn't survive it, but a couple weeks later he gave me a hug and gradually it was ok. We married in 2006 and will be celebrating our eighth anniversary next month. None of his side of the family know my secret and they never will.

Remember, if you want a "normal life", stop telling people. It's not for everyone and no doubt some on here will disagree with me. I am not ashamed of my past -- let's face it, if I was I wouldn't have told my husband, but as a result we are leading a normal life as a married couple, and that was my dream.

Live the dream

Caroline
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I agree! I did the same thing you did, but the big difference is I am not post op!! In the end you did tell him though, this is what I also did and would like to still do in the future, but when it gets to that point it seems the men forget all that has happened prior to telling.

I was wanted and even needed to the point of almost having to say "hey I need some space" now I am not needed nor wanted and I'm the one saying "hey what about me" I do realize what I have told him is a lot to grasp....I'm not stupid!! But he did say he would give things a chance....how is virtually ignoring me giving me a chance. I'm done!!
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Just Shelly

Quote from: Jen on May 17, 2014, 06:54:00 PM
I am so sorry Shelly.  The sad thing is I think most men are this way, but there are some out there that aren't so there is some hope to have.  But I know that feeling.  Last summer I had similar happen to me like four times I think it was and I still feel kind of scarred by it.  I was telling people before the first date though, so I am sure this rejection feels so much worse for you.  But you know, if he is one of these kind of men, and is willing to even try to get past his prejudice, that tells you how amazing you must be!  Even if he isn't able to, I hope you take that much from it.  You do deserve somebody that doesn't have that kind of prejudice to start with though.

Thank you Jen!! :)

I think I do need to tell much earlier on....but for me it takes a couple of times to feel someone out to see if this person would try to use it against me. In this case I met him as a customer that was coming in where I work, it took him about 8 months to ask me out....I'm sure he would of earlier but I did not give him any openings until later. Once I went out with him I was fairly certain about who he was but was still unsure of telling him early since I am stealth at work. He ended up being one of the "nice guys" and I felt it only fair to tell him. I do think much of his reluctance is the fear of others knowing. I have assured him that only my family and a few people know.

The thing that I feel will be the real deal breaker is that I think he thinks I am post op....I never told him I was but he asked when abouts I made the change...I told him it was some years ago but now that I think of it I think he thinks I meant completely. He doesn't know about all this trans stuff....what straight guy does!!

Jen I think you should wait until at least a couple dates...let them know your more than just a pretty face. Telling them right off the bat may intrigue a guys interest only for sex. Either way it still stinks and really hurts. I am very sorry you have gone through even more hurt than I :( The thing is even if I was post op it wouldn't make a huge difference...I can't hide my past!!
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jhajha marie

well, in my experience... i am very passable as a woman.. my voice.. y feminine small built. feminine voice....
but the bad thing if u are a transender here in the Philippines is that you could never hide it from everyone. we dont have laws where we would be allowed to change our name and gender...

however, when i go to other parts of the country, away from my city where i dont need to tell people my real name and gender and nobody knows me.... i decieve them... i get men's attention easily and some may even ask me out.. but i do tell them right away on the first night and it makes me sad how they change their way of treating me.. from being special to just a "sex toy" or even a someone to suck money from...  and i basically havent got anyy boyfriend.... and i just think that im still 19, still very young to be in a relationship..
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Just Shelly

Quote from: jhajha marie on May 18, 2014, 08:48:15 PM
well, in my experience... i am very passable as a woman.. my voice.. y feminine small built. feminine voice....
but the bad thing if u are a transender here in the Philippines is that you could never hide it from everyone. we dont have laws where we would be allowed to change our name and gender...

however, when i go to other parts of the country, away from my city where i dont need to tell people my real name and gender and nobody knows me.... i decieve them... i get men's attention easily and some may even ask me out.. but i do tell them right away on the first night and it makes me sad how they change their way of treating me.. from being special to just a "sex toy" or even a someone to suck money from...  and i basically havent got anyy boyfriend.... and i just think that im still 19, still very young to be in a relationship..

I know it stinks either way you do it. The thing is I can understand how a man can feel after telling them, I don't expect someone to just go, "oh, sure that's no problem" I think that's why I like to get to know someone a little bit before telling them....but it doesn't seem to work either. UGH!! it just sucks!!!! I guess I should do like I was told by the man that just left me. "why don't you search for someone similar to you" Ya sure ok...Why doesn't he then!! and then after knowing that wasn't the nicest thing to say...he then tells me I should try and find a good woman! ok this is such nice stuff to hear!! I know he really didn't mean these things and is struggling with what I just told him, but it sure hurts.

Like I said earlier....you or I can be treated as good or even better than some cis females but when all is known we are treated 100% different than any cis women would be!!
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Jessica Merriman

Shelly, you are only alone for the rest of your life if that is what you choose sweetie! :)
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bubbles21

I go through this everyday. It makes me extremely upset but then i realise I have other things to worry about in my life other than men. Some guys can be really really harsh. I tell the guys straight away, whether they choose to stay or not is their choice but if im straight up at first then it is like I dont lose anything to begin with. Alot of people have different ways of going about this, but yeah its very cruel at times.
Blossoming with my Happy Pills :)
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mandonlym

I've gone out with a ton of people and have only had this type of rejection experience once, with someone who had a lot of childhood bullying trauma so it really wasn't about me in retrospect. And publicly disclosing doesn't seem to have affected people's interest.

The things I can say are that apart from living in a liberal area and looking like a cis woman is that I've come to a point when I really don't need a guy to accept it and the men I meet can sense that. Post-transition, it's really important to get over this no one is ever going to love me feeling because that's precisely what alienates potential lovers, the idea that you're just with them because you're desperate rather than you actually appreciating them for who they are. I dislike it when other people make me feel that way so same goes the other way around.

Oddly enough, I think Facebook and being out helps in this regard in the sense that men who are interested in me see other, seemingly normal, professional, intelligent guys on my Facebook who are exes, good friends, etc. So the whole idea of potentially dating a trans woman becomes more normal to them, and they also know that I might move on if they don't take the chance. So for me, being out has actually led to more rather than fewer opportunities. I totally adore my boyfriend and am quite loyal to him, but we're non-exclusive so I like having cute boys around to flirt with!
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Just Shelly

Thank you Mandonlym! This is something I need to hear!

Even though I am not ready to be out to the world, I do know that in reality it probably wouldn't make a huge difference. What I fear the most is not being treated the same as any other female. I am treated very cis like now and I would fear it would be awkward for many if they knew.

I try not to seem so needed and at times I do feel like "hell, its his lost" But because I have been alone for the most part of my life it really hurts and I tend to blame myself more than anyone or anything else. It doesn't help that now I also have more than just normal things one would be rejected for. If I wasn't trans I would be wondering what it was about me, he didn't like, but its fairly obvious what it is that has turned him away.
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jhajha marie

Quote from: Just Shelly on May 18, 2014, 09:59:24 PM

Like I said earlier....you or I can be treated as good or even better than some cis females but when all is known we are treated 100% different than any cis women would be!!

but there are a lot of men now who are into transwomen... the ->-bleeped-<- ->-bleeped-<-s.. though i dont want to calll them right now.. you just need to go to filter them for some guys just want you because of your package and that sucks.... some men just see us as a solution to their fetishes...

however, there are some ladyboy friends of mine who have been in a relationship with an American men not because they are transexuals but because some men now see transexuals as people who can be more loving and more caring thatn cis women...
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mandonlym

Hi Jhayla. By the way I grew up in the Philippines; marunong pang mag-Tagalog. ;)

I've had a pretty broad range of lovers and reasons why they like me, though I don't think I've had a real ->-bleeped-<- per se since I was pre-op, since I don't really hang around trans social circles. My boyfriend now is just really liberal and enjoys challenging social assumptions. He didn't know when we started dating, and we went through a two-week period when he thought I meant I was just female-assigned genderqueer when I told him I was trans. But actually, our relationship has grown since he found out.

And as much as trans women fetishize the classic female figure, there are also a lot of guys who are into the athletic, kinda boyish body type, which is what mine is. I think confidence in your body is a bit turn-on for a lot of people, and I do sincerely love mine so I communicate that.
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Allyda

I'm a little different in that I only date other women, but I think the principal here is still the same. With everyone I've been with including my current SO of over 4 and a half years, the moment we decided to become serious about our relationship and make a commitment to one another I was upfront with my SO that I'm a transgender woman in transition, and that I intend to fully transition meaning I'll be having Gender Reassignment Surgery after a reasonable time on hormones. I've found in my experience that as soon as the two of you become serious about each other that honesty is the best policy. Now, once I'm post-op I may wait a little longer before sharing my secret to ensure the stability of the relationship, but I still will share it with my SO before any engaugement or other very serious commitment is made. Keeping secrets in a relationship can be very hazardous to any long term committed relationship and if kept long enough and should your SO discover the truth by either accident or worse...?? can derail even the strongest of bonds you may have between you.

With your situation Shelly, he may just need a little time to let it sink in. If your biker friend truly likes you and enjoys your company he'll ventually come around. If he doesn't, you've saved yourself a lot of heartache down the line.

Best Wishes Hun.

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jhajha marie

Quote from: mandonlym on May 19, 2014, 06:56:52 AM
Hi Jhayla. By the way I grew up in the Philippines; marunong pang mag-Tagalog. ;)

I've had a pretty broad range of lovers and reasons why they like me, though I don't think I've had a real ->-bleeped-<- per se since I was pre-op, since I don't really hang around trans social circles. My boyfriend now is just really liberal and enjoys challenging social assumptions. He didn't know when we started dating, and we went through a two-week period when he thought I meant I was just female-assigned genderqueer when I told him I was trans. But actually, our relationship has grown since he found out.

And as much as trans women fetishize the classic female figure, there are also a lot of guys who are into the athletic, kinda boyish body type, which is what mine is. I think confidence in your body is a bit turn-on for a lot of people, and I do sincerely love mine so I communicate that.

well, for me.. most filipino men that I dwell with admire my feminine petite look.. i think they just can't accept the fact that i also have a package and they're afraid to be judged by the society considering that filipinos are so religious...
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Shantel

Shelly, the title of this thread "Alone the rest of my life" just doesn't suit you and frankly I just don't see it happening. I'm going back in my memory to a rather attractive little woman sitting in a patio lounging chair near a pool with her hair all messy and a grumpy look on her cute little face and I thought OMG she is just so real and so human and there is no pretentiousness to be seen in that woman, which in a way encapsulates something very special about you, and that's why I commented about "Just Shelly" back then and why Just when there is no Just about someone so special. I don't see you being alone forever, when you begin to exude a more positive self image others will see it and it will be magnetic.
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Just Shelly

awwww thank you so much Shan :) :)

You are absolutely right, I need to own who I am!!! I am a somewhat attractive younger than I look caring woman....I need people to see the real me!!!

Thank You!!

Decided to even post a recent pic that was during a proud moment in my life! It will be in the you look fabulous thread.....just for S & G's
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