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Is it a loss or a gain at work since transitioning

Started by Gina Taylor, May 22, 2014, 02:25:40 AM

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Gina Taylor

The other evening I was watching a program on the Discovery Channel about transsexuals, and one section that really caught my interest was when a transsexual had started the RLT and she found that her six figure salary was cut because she's now a woman and nobody would listen to her opinion. So after that first year, because of what had happened, she happily returned to her male life. Has anyone run into situations like this?
Gina Marie Taylor  8)
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Ms Grace

Fortunately my work place will pay me the same - whether I'm male or female. Unfortunately, that's still not very much! :)
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Cindy

Well Australia has strong anti-discrimination law so I feel fairly safe, but that said there was a not very subtle attempt by one very senior person of my organisation to 'limit' my career. However once I found out about it and reported it that person was dealt with very harshly.

Work wise I feel I am more powerful and respected than 'he' was, partially because having dealt with my problems I am more capable of dealing with my rather high pressure position. My self confidence is also very high and I am happy, two character traits that tend to overcome most obstacles.

There is a factor in this that isn't always understood, high paid jobs, and yes I am one of a few people on six figures, are extremely competitive. There is very little forgiveness and your colleagues are looking for ways to advance themselves, and you are the person in the way, if there is a perceived weakness that someone can exploit, they will. There are few women in my organisation at my level, and I am very well acquainted with the only trans*person at that level  :laugh:. I use that to my advantage, someone else may find that type of pressure and publicity difficult to cope with.

That said if I detransitioned (not something that will happen) I would expect to be slaughtered.
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Gina Taylor

Quote from: Ms Grace on May 22, 2014, 02:29:19 AM
Fortunately my work place will pay me the same - whether I'm male or female. Unfortunately, that's still not very much! :)
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Hey that's good to hear that some places still believe in equal rights! :)
Gina Marie Taylor  8)
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Gina Taylor

Quote from: Cindy on May 22, 2014, 02:49:40 AM
Well Australia has strong anti-discrimination law so I feel fairly safe, but that said there was a not very subtle attempt by one very senior person of my organisation to 'limit' my career. However once I found out about it and reported it that person was dealt with very harshly.

That's good that you were able to nip that problem in thehat you bud and thanks to the higher powers of your organization.


Work wise I feel I am more powerful and respected than 'he' was, partially because having dealt with my problems I am more capable of dealing with my rather high pressure position. My self confidence is also very high and I am happy, two character traits that tend to overcome most obstacles.

This was bound to happen, once you were able to express your true self, I'm sure that your self confidence was just over beaming! :)

There is a factor in this that isn't always understood, high paid jobs, and yes I am one of a few people on six figures, are extremely competitive. There is very little forgiveness and your colleagues are looking for ways to advance themselves, and you are the person in the way, if there is a perceived weakness that someone can exploit, they will. There are few women in my organization at my level, and I am very well acquainted with the only trans*person at that level  :laugh:. I use that to my advantage, someone else may find that type of pressure and publicity difficult to cope with.

That said if I detransitioned (not something that will happen) I would expect to be slaughtered.
Gina Marie Taylor  8)
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suzifrommd

Quote from: Cindy on May 22, 2014, 02:49:40 AM
There is a factor in this that isn't always understood, high paid jobs, and yes I am one of a few people on six figures, are extremely competitive. There is very little forgiveness and your colleagues are looking for ways to advance themselves, and you are the person in the way, if there is a perceived weakness that someone can exploit, they will.

Can I add that the criteria for qualification for these jobs are often rather fuzzy? Easy to tell if someone can be an accountant or a computer programmer. But ability to be a leader of people who needs to exercise judgment is highly subjective. To be promoted into the highest levels of an organization requires acceptance by whoever holds the power there. They need to trust your judgment and be comfortable working closely with you.

Think how much harder that is when you're "different" in some way. If you're a woman among mostly men, a person of color among mostly white people, an immigrant among mostly native-born, etc., it becomes harder to be accepted/trusted.

Couple that with the fact that in a lot of people's eyes we are mentally ill (never mind the newest DSM, which most people haven't heard of) and lumped with sexual deviants, and the road becomes much longer and steeper for us, right?
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Cindy

Quote from: suzifrommd on May 22, 2014, 07:51:54 AM
Can I add that the criteria for qualification for these jobs are often rather fuzzy? Easy to tell if someone can be an accountant or a computer programmer. But ability to be a leader of people who needs to exercise judgment is highly subjective. To be promoted into the highest levels of an organization requires acceptance by whoever holds the power there. They need to trust your judgment and be comfortable working closely with you.

Think how much harder that is when you're "different" in some way. If you're a woman among mostly men, a person of color among mostly white people, an immigrant among mostly native-born, etc., it becomes harder to be accepted/trusted.

Couple that with the fact that in a lot of people's eyes we are mentally ill (never mind the newest DSM, which most people haven't heard of) and lumped with sexual deviants, and the road becomes much longer and steeper for us, right?

Very true, my weakness are looked for. I am aware of that, and I know there is no forgiveness, nor do I ask or expect any. But every day I am me, everyday I am myself successfully doing what I do in a very public arena then every young trans*person who follows me in my journey, no matter at what level, will find that path a little easier. Or at least I hope so.
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FTMDiaries

I haven't (yet) experienced that mythical rise in income that testosterone is supposed to bring, but I haven't experienced any detriment either. I've just had my first salary increase in two years... but then again, so has the rest of the company.

I do find that people take me more seriously though. Especially clients and suppliers. My colleagues seem a bit more at ease with me too, apart from the odd person who treats me like, well, an odd person.

It'll be interesting to see what happens when I move on to my next company, particularly if I'm stealth there.





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Gina Taylor

A few months ago, I got into a conversation with an editor who had published a book on transsexuals and we discussed this possibility, but I assured her that I would not run into this problem, because I'm on disability and I'm paid either way by the government.  :)
Gina Marie Taylor  8)
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EmmaD

I am not out at work and hope that January 2015 will see that day arrive.  however, I am in the "6-figure" group and am a specialist in my field.  Compared to a uni graduate, I am under-qualified.  What I have is 30 years experience in my field in 2 countries so I would hope that is valued just the same.  In a city of over 4 million, there are very few jobs like mine (maybe 8) and I know each of them!  Not much opportunity if things go pear-shaped.

What is stressing me out is to get to 2015, I have a difficult job to manage AND transitioning.  To be honest, my work performance is suffering under the weight at the moment.  This is one reason why I am thinking of letting work know what is coming because I am struggling.  I am going over a timeline for the next 9 months with my therapist in 2 weeks as I want FFS before going full time at work.

I just hope it all works out.



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Gina Taylor

Quote from: EmmaD on May 22, 2014, 03:52:03 PM
I am not out at work and hope that January 2015 will see that day arrive.  however, I am in the "6-figure" group and am a specialist in my field.  Compared to a uni graduate, I am under-qualified.  What I have is 30 years experience in my field in 2 countries so I would hope that is valued just the same.  In a city of over 4 million, there are very few jobs like mine (maybe 8) and I know each of them!  Not much opportunity if things go pear-shaped.

What is stressing me out is to get to 2015, I have a difficult job to manage AND transitioning.  To be honest, my work performance is suffering under the weight at the moment.  This is one reason why I am thinking of letting work know what is coming because I am struggling.  I am going over a timeline for the next 9 months with my therapist in 2 weeks as I want FFS before going full time at work.

I just hope it all works out.

As long as you have everything scheduled properly, I'm sure everything will go well for you. :)
Gina Marie Taylor  8)
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