is the transgender community fated the same as an infinte expanding universe

[stephaniec]

just curious if any one really thinks there is a transgender community. The Universe is said to be expanding. I f the Universe doesn't contract at some point , the individual galaxy's will just continue to fly apart and individually become part of the  invisible blackness of the infinite void to slowly dissipate into nothingness. Dose the community have a chance to stay in existence. We are so few. maybe we are just a community as far as the big bang when we realize we're different and seek advice from others of the same fabric , but as we expand we head for the invisibility   of the empty void. The gay community grows and expands , but has the dark matter to keep the community from flying apart into oblivion. We are considered a part of the LGBT , but it seems too many want the peace that the invisible void can offer. please I have no desire to trigger or offend . I am just a curious little camper exploring my new life.

[xNatasha]

There is no comunity in my opinion.
At least the ones I do know that are around me
Aren't exactly trying to be friends. I could go on
Forever about why that is. But we know why.
Most would be far to judgement or sensitive to be
Around me. I already faced some of it from some of
Our sisters on how much better than me than they are.

[nikkit72]

Hi Stephanie,

I for one do not think that we will disappear. Yes we are few. Scattered across the globe like diamonds amongst the coal, but we are definately increasing in numbers. As our acceptance, at least in more tolerant countries, grows, more and more trans people, wherever they may be on the spectrum, are popping up. Thanks to the information overload we are all exposed to, people are better informed. Here in the UK the gender clinics have waiting lists, not due to the fact that they want to avoid treating trans individuals or delay treatments but because there are so many more of us identifying as trans and seeking the desired treatments.  Forums like Susans bind each of its members into a community, at least for a while until the journey to whatever destination is over and life begins with different goals. Being trans should be something we live with not live for. So, as our little trans universe expands, new stars are born to fill the voids.

Nikki

[stephaniec]

There is no comunity in my opinion.
At least the ones I do know that are around me
Aren't exactly trying to be friends. I could go on
Forever about why that is. But we know why.
Most would be far to judgement or sensitive to be
Around me. I already faced some of it from some of
Our sisters on how much better than me than they are.

yes, I'm quite new to the community, but it does seem these problems exist

[stephaniec]

Hi Stephanie,

I for one do not think that we will disappear. Yes we are few. Scattered across the globe like diamonds amongst the coal, but we are definately increasing in numbers. As our acceptance, at least in more tolerant countries, grows, more and more trans people, wherever they may be on the spectrum, are popping up. Thanks to the information overload we are all exposed to, people are better informed. Here in the UK the gender clinics have waiting lists, not due to the fact that they want to avoid treating trans individuals or delay treatments but because there are so many more of us identifying as trans and seeking the desired treatments.  Forums like Susans bind each of its members into a community, at least for a while until the journey to whatever destination is over and life begins with different goals. Being trans should be something we live with not live for. So, as our little trans universe expands, new stars are born to fill the voids.

Nikki

That was Einstein's first proposed solution . It makes it hopeful as long as the new ones keep flourishing , but that leaves a problem with direction and leader ship with such a high turn over rate

[Seras]

I don't want to be in a "transgender community" I want to be and plan to be in the normal female one. So I am really not fussed.

[Dee Marshall]

I don't want to be in a "transgender community" I want to be and plan to be in the normal female one. So I am really not fussed.

And that's exactly the point my therapist had trying to explain to my sweety, (in her stereotypical German accent) "what sane person would want to be transgendered?" Many of us who can get away with it are going to quietly live our lives. We transition from one state to another and are really only a community as we do that. There's no shame in wanting to enjoy what we work for. It's going to be very hard to push an agenda.

I'll probably be an activist after I settle some issues because at the moment I don't see myself completely transitioning and therefore going stealth, but it's a long journey and anything can happen. 

[Ltl89]

I often use the term "transgender community" but in reality there really isn't such a thing.  There are trans groups and stuff, but really there is very little linking us all together.  We're all so different and even those of us in the same sub categories are diverse.  It's not a community, more than it is a category of people that share the fact that they are trans in some way.  Honestly, I want to be there and support other trans people as best as I can and I will always fight for social causes that I believe in, but I'm really not interested in being seen as a member of the trans community or an activist.   To be honest, most of the trans people I've met in real life are a bit different from me (not in a bad way) and there wasn't much of a connection linking me to those groups.  I kind of feel isolated and an outcast within it (probably because of my social phobia and age), and that's why I prefer just chatting online more than anything.  But then I do very much feel susan's is an important "community" for me.  It's an odd contradiction that I don't quite understand.  I guess an online community is the extent of community that I want.  I'd like to support others and get support myself, but I dont want to be visibly thought as trans in my day to day life or IRL interactions. 

[stephaniec]

I often use the term "transgender community" but in reality there really isn't such a thing.  There are trans groups and stuff, but really there is very little linking us all together.  We're all so different and even those of us in the same sub categories are diverse.  It's not a community, more than it is a category of people that share the fact that they are trans in some way.  Honestly, I want to be there and support other trans people as best as I can and I will always fight for social causes that I believe in, but I'm really not interested in being seen as a member of the trans community or an activist.   To be honest, most of the trans people I've met in real life are a bit different from me (not in a bad way) and there wasn't much of a connection linking me to those groups.  I kind of feel isolated and an outcast within it (probably because of my social phobia and age), and that's why I prefer just chatting online more than anything.  But then I do very much feel susan's is an important "community" for me.  It's an odd contradiction that I don't quite understand.  I guess an online community is the extent of community that I want.  I'd like to support others and get support myself, but I dont want to be visibly thought as trans in my day to day life or IRL interactions.

Susan's has been great for me . It's the only place I talk to other transgenders

[Megan Joanne]

We are not a strong enough community, flat out truth, and its because we have so much against us, not just those that misunderstand, discriminate, hate us with all their being, but ourselves as well (only because we aren't accepted by other communities), so while we may socialize amongst each other here or there, for the most we hide, living stealthy lives in fear of others that would make it their mission to knock us down, maybe over time that will change.

[SuchisLife]

I would assume most "special" people would want their communities to not exist in the "special" category.  By "special" I mean negatively viewed groups of people.  Deaf people have support groups as well, especially for those who lost their hearing mid-life, but they aren't so dramatically filled with people who are downtrodden upon by society and themselves. 

If the general populace just accepted that some citizens are transgendered, but didn't make it an issue, the transgender community would just be another part of society at large.  The community wouldn't even need to exist for a larger number of transgendered people as the support structure they need would be inherent within their society and families  I feel like a lot of the shame and other negative feelings wouldn't be as prevalent if it could be accepted.  I'm sure the transgendered community would still exist, but it wouldn't be as centered on being a critical support group, as many are so traumatized by their own existence right now.  It would just be a group of people who relate to one another, similar to the multitude of sub-culture groups out there in the world already.

[stephaniec]

well, dysphoria is very real, so there will always be that percentage of the population that will be transgendered . it will never go away . It would be the solution if we weren't so repulsive to so many eyes. I'm sure being stealth has it's own head aches . I guess all we can do is try to make the best of it. I've lived way too long not being right and I just want to make it the rest of the way the right way regardless how " society "views me. I guess there is so many other groups hoping for a better world there is kind of a loose nit community of the disenfranchised . I can't complain I'm happy being me.

[HoneyStrums]

No.

the universe isn't a community. but a vessel of existence, in which "communities" exist.
The galaxies are a community, and in those galaxies smaller communities exist "solar systems"

Communities by there nature are made up of different things, that behave in different ways. Some of these things want to separate themselves and drift into nothingness, some of them don't. Even within these bands of things that stay together, we have things that like some distance but not much, and some more or less distance then others.

The universe is a container of existence, and everything within it will ultimately come together once again, for another great war to cause everything to separate once more. No comunitie can be tied to the same fate as the universe, because the universe is the only thing in our existence that encompasses and allows everything to exist within it, without casting anything aside and/or out. It expands changes and adapts in order to keep fully encompassing everything.