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Started by M-F, December 04, 2005, 09:52:15 AM

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M-F

I have read a large number of posts here trying to find someone like me.  No luck.

So many labels, CD,TV,HS, Trans this, Trans that.

I am a male with large narural boobs.  In my teen years my breasts developed faster than my female friends.  I had to quit going topless because of the finger pointing by the guys & the fights that resulted.

Now if I went to the beach or pool topless, I would be arrested as a "dyke" showing her boobs in public.  Waist 38-42, chest under the boobs 42" & across the nipples 49-50", depends on the sag that day. No bra.

I have no desire for an operation to remove the boobs or the penis.
The boobs are very sexually sensitive part of me.  I do not take estrogen, my body makes plenty.  I have higher estrogen levels, 60 -100, than many women.  My testosterone levels are at the low end of the scale for men,120 - 300, I use a testosterone gel to keep it up, pun intended.  Sometimes I take a pill to lower the estrogen when it gets way too high & the nipples get too sensitive.

I seem to be in a minority of minorities.  I do not fit anywhere.  But keep hoping to find some like minded M-F types.

I was born with Klienfelters Mosaic Syndrome.  I have extra female chromosomes in the upper body.  Little facial & upper body hair along with the boobs,  small testicles, some active sperm as I have children.  No desire or need to shave every day.

I only want straight male-female sex, no bi or homosexual desires.  But I do enjoy my wife playing with the breasts, that is a great send off when she is ready.

I enjoy the male & female parts of me.

Is there Anyone out there that understands what I am talking about or am I just in the wrong forum??
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Dennis

Sounds to me like you're intersex, and there is an intersex forum.

Welcome to Susan's Place. There's a large range of people here.

Dennis
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Terri-Gene

MtF, can you give a name to call you by?  much easier for relations.  I understand what you say, I had a simular problem as a youth, though nowhere near yours.  I was able to pass for male simply by a lot of weight training, concentraiting on the upper body and with my smallish breasts was able to pass it off by enhancing the musculature of my chest. Shaving, I had no need to shave more then once or twice a week even under work conditions where hygene and appearance standards were strict until toward 30 years of age.  by 35 or so I began to shave every morning to avoid stubble.  Sounds like you got pretty zapped though.  I know exactly what it is like though as a youth to have nowhere to hide, I know all to well.

  As to Klienfelters or 47 chromozone rather then 46, It is rare, (xxy) but enough of those out there.  don't worry about your estrogen levels, mine these days is 180 and testosterone zero. Your growth should have stopped by now so unless your doctors have concern you should be stable in development and nothing new expected. you should not have any worries about hormone levels unless your doctor is concerned and that is the only source of information you should trust.

And yes, you are a form of intersex, though that doesn't stop you from identifying in any catagory you are comfortable in though there are definatly some you are not since you do not wish full transition and like having advantages of both male and female.  Personally I identify as TS because I feel female and hate anything maleish about myself and do not have the more drastic deformities of what I consider true intersexed people.  They have had more to deal with then i ever have and so I do not place myself in that catagory.

All I'm saying is that you can select a catagory your comfortable with or select none, it doesn't matter as regardless what gender you identify with the most, or neither, you fall into the public view of gender non conformity and intitled to the same rights as anyone here as long as you obey the rules and respect others here regardless of thier gender condition or sexual preferences.  None of us is any better then another by virtue of our status of transition or  stage of acceptance, be it CD/TV/TS/TG, we are all people who are trying to work our way through life in as much peace of mind as possible.

Even if you don't find others here that really fit into whatever catagory you feel applies to yourself, I hope you hang around and share your experiences with us and learn by the experiences of others.

Check out the rules of the board and please adhere to them as it is important that we all get along with each other, we have enough problems with the people outside without bringing then in here.

Good luck, whatever you are actually called.  personally I hate handles and don't like using them toward people, to impersonal.

Terri
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Shelley

I'm with Dennis you do sound like intersexed might be the answer. There is a section in the WIKI that might be of help.

Oh and welcome to Susan's.

Shelley
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M-F

Thanks all. 

Terri, I thank you for your reply, you seem to know where I come from.  Yes the teen years were hell.  I would not repeat those years for any amount of money.

I will check out the intersex group & wiki.

Thanks again,

MF
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Jillieann Rose

Hi MF,

Many of us do not fit into any paticuler label.
I for one don't like lables because each of us are unique.
My breast size is aa and I have course hair everywhere.
Welcome to this wonderful site where you are accepted no-mater your bodily or metal state. I know because they have welcomed me.
 
Again welcome,
:)
Jillieann
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M-F

I have read the intersex posts & researched it more about "merm" on the internet.  That does seem to be were I fit the best.

Yes I use testosterone to keep the male parts working & occasionally have to reduce my natural estrogen when the breasts get too sensitive.

I have always thought of myself a a male, but had female breasts.  I had to hide them for years.  It now seems that more & more men are wearing "T" shirts & let the breasts show through.  Maybe there are just more of us now or the attitutes have changed.

I have read on some bulletin boards about gynecomastia that  about 10% of men with big boobs opt for surgery to remove them.

Thanks for the kind replies.
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Cassandra

Welcome M-F,

Looks like you came to the right place to find the info you seek.  But we're a lot more than just labels here. We are friends most of all and we help and support one another. You are most welcome here. So fix yourself a cup of tea or other relaxing beverage sit down take your shoes off and set a spell.

Good Journey,

Cassie
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JenniferElizabeth

Hi and welcome MF,
As you find by reading the posts here Alot ofpeople joining
susans are confused. But, you found a good place to help you figure it out. There are alot of wise folks in here that can help. Again welcome. :D
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Peggiann

HI M-F,

What matters most is that you be comfortable about who you are or want to be. It human nature to want to aline our selves with others like us. I hope you can find the here At Susan's Place. There are so many variations that it's highly possible. Keep searching till you are saticfied.

Peggiann
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