Vocabulary: intersex or trans? Both?

[ganjina]

Hi all,

So if am intersex as in having female or intersex inside characteristics related to genetics (XXY) or some other "intimate wiring" but looking quite male on the outside, then I begin a transition to look Female on the outside, does that make you intersex MTF trans? But then again am already partly female but it is sort of the male part going female so I guess that's the right wording?

[JLT1]

Ganjina,

You are human, the rest is really up to you.

I am intersexed.  I have lived most of my lfe as a man.  Shortly, (like tomorrow) I will be living full time as a woman.  I shove myself in there as a male to female transgendered woman.  But hey, that's me.

Hugs,

Jen

[HoneyStrums]

Socially, you would be seen as male to female.

Transitioning from perceived and received as male roll to perceptive and receptive female.

[JLT1]

The trans* label is up to you.  The intersex label is up to you and whichever IS condition you have been diagnosed with.  I've met a few intersex people who identify as transgender/transsexual.  So it does happen.  The IS/trans* people I met had all been surgically 'corrected'  at birth, except one who was an XXY (Klinefelter)  MTF.  So, there is a ton of diversity. You're labels are mostly up to you with IS being the exception as that label comes to us by way of medical diagnosis.   

I was only partially "corrected" at birth.  Fargo ND in 1962 wasn't a Mecca of medical science. 

I would state that a medical doctor or a geneticist is qualified to give one a diagnosis.  Sometimes, it is inconvenient or embarrassing for a medical professional.  (Still bitter about that.)

Jen

[ganjina]

While there was a diagnosis, thankfully there was no correction and the people at the hospital preferred to let it be, than to risk doing stupid stuff, for which I can only be thankful today.

Thanks for the technical clearup, also, this:

Ganjina,

You are human, the rest is really up to you.

Thanks a lot really, that cheered up my day  ! I never really thought of it that way, always thinking of my issues as me being some kind of rare mutant breed, but now I think, like, oh well we are all the same. A big difference in how to look and feel about it.

[Danniella]

Oddly enough, I was diagnosed with Klinefelter Syndrome AFTER I began my transition.

When it came time for me to donate sperm pre-HRT, I was found to be infertile, and a Karyotype test was done as standard procedure, which flagged up the syndrome.

In general I simply refer to myself as transgendered. I had already began to see myself as trans before my diagnosis, and really, I feel comfortable enough identifying as trans without having to add this into the equation of explaining myself in my day to day life.

But if people choose to enquire further as to my condition, and reasoning behind my trans nature, I will often take the time to tell them about my inter-sexed condition. 

I believe that it is a key aspect of my trans nature, but like others have said, being inter-sexed and being trans are not mutually exclusive, so I try not to rely on my genetics to explain away everything.

At the end of the day, the way I see it, being inter-sexed may be one of the causes of my being trans, but my genetics are not what people see when they look at me, they see a trans person, so why bother trying to apply another label to yourself? It just complicates and already complicated matter

Hope that helps >.>

[JLT1]

Thanks a lot really, that cheered up my day  ! I never really thought of it that way, always thinking of my issues as me being some kind of rare mutant breed, but now I think, like, oh well we are all the same. A big difference in how to look and feel about it.

Hugs!

Jen

[ganjina]

Oddly enough, I was diagnosed with Klinefelter Syndrome AFTER I began my transition.

When it came time for me to donate sperm pre-HRT, I was found to be infertile, and a Karyotype test was done as standard procedure, which flagged up the syndrome.

In general I simply refer to myself as transgendered. I had already began to see myself as trans before my diagnosis, and really, I feel comfortable enough identifying as trans without having to add this into the equation of explaining myself in my day to day life.

But if people choose to enquire further as to my condition, and reasoning behind my trans nature, I will often take the time to tell them about my inter-sexed condition. 

I believe that it is a key aspect of my trans nature, but like others have said, being inter-sexed and being trans are not mutually exclusive, so I try not to rely on my genetics to explain away everything.

At the end of the day, the way I see it, being inter-sexed may be one of the causes of my being trans, but my genetics are not what people see when they look at me, they see a trans person, so why bother trying to apply another label to yourself? It just complicates and already complicated matter

Hope that helps >.>

Thanks. TBH I was more asking for my own sake, not to explain it to anyone. If anyone ask I just say am a girl n a guy's body and am gonna get that changed, period. Not going to bother going over much else at all, not anyone's business and really unless the person in question wants medical details out of curiosity or something, why bother.