DiMaggio and T-Change

[jgirl76]

Does anyone know the reason for why Dr. DiMaggio is no longer partnered with T-Change? I assume some rumors have circulated at some point but does anyone have any factual information? While I'm all-in-all happy with the changes that Cardenas made in my face, I may still go to Argentina to have my forehead re-done and I'm just curious as to why I no longer hear much about DiMaggio anymore... 

Thanks,
Jonnie

[xNatasha]

He was kind of a jerk and was actually costing them money
By refusing healthy poz girls
And before anyone freaks out and starts denying rights of therapy
Before thinking, please be compassionate.
Of course since this is a segment if society with a high hiv + rate
Its a lot of $$$$  and other reasons of course

[Celia0428]

I bet he will soon show up and give you an answer himself... under his preferred nickname 'Samantha' 

[shidou_hikaru]

unofficially, I can say that they had disagreements, c-change (Amanda) and Di maggio, not the details, it seems that they will return to no longer work together.

dimaggio increasingly more cash charges surgeries. t-change became famous di maggio, I think is taking advantage of the need for a good surgeon.

at least now I see the work of the new surgeon associated with T. Change, which is the DR Rossi, I see very very good job, so I've decided to stay with t-change and DR Rossy.

I hope the other month put pictures of their work.

[Jennygirl]

Personal attacks/accusations of any kind will not be tolerated, that goes for everyone folks!

[xNatasha]

DiMaggio is a sub par surgeon with an over blown ego.
Ans he thinks we should just read the real reasons why coz its
Stated on his new site. I actually have emails from him showing his
Complete disregard for us. And his over blown ego. And the reasons why
He told me in email kind of told me to stay away from his sub standard
Operating theatre. And also more emails saying he is the best and can
Feel the anger by informing his statements that no one will operate on me.
And just ask him about facial team. Much much Better team.
Just as good or even better techniques. Out of all tthe ffs doctors he was the worst
To deal with. And personally he does shifty jobs on noses and jaws which is very
Important. So he's actually sub par when I tally up all the scores.
Bad attitude operating room is low standards half the work is awwful.
No just no LOL 
Of course I also sent a letter to amanda explaining why I will never give my
Money to them. And I know a lot of girls and they trust me. Especially when
I can actually produce the emails

[jgirl76]

Natasha I have pm'd you my email address if you would please consider furnishing the emails of which you speak.
I'm potentially considering DiMaggio for a forehead revision and a surgeon's character is important to me.

Thank you

[ganjina]

XNatasha if possible I would like to see on private what you're talking about was well .

[INgrid Alicia]

Awhhh That sounds really bad. I was starting to think Dimaggio was a good option
I think it´s all the same thing, all these TG surgeons look at us just like a way to get money... because they don't understand all the needs of the community. At least they should be respectful.. because they earn a lot from us.
If you could give me too any details of t-change and Dimaggio i would really appreciate you can contact me in my fb profile.

[jgirl76]

I really don't understand why DiMaggio wouldn't operate on the girls who are poz, another girl recently said that femilife and some of the thai surgeons are the same, it's very sad that as advanced as medicine is, that there is still people in medicine who would discriminate against such a vulnerable group, when there are universal standards of care in Europe and the US that clearly mean any patient, so long they are stable enough can be operated on. Sad that 3rd world countries including Argentina are still so far behind on medical care standards and discriminate against hiv+ girls. These girls have all my support, I know if I was in their shoes, I wouldn't want to be discriminated on like that. They deserve to be treated like humans and with extra care and love at that. For they're a vulnerable group.

I don't know that Argentina is a 3rd world country, probably more 2nd world. Not sure that DiMaggio's refusal to operate on HIV positive patients is a reflection of Argentina's medical standards but more of a reflection up on DiMaggio as a surgeon? As far as Femilife goes, they are quickly gaining the "butcher" reputation, so be happy if they turn you away I would say.

[xNatasha]

Argentina used to be a very very bad place to live for trans woman.
Its very recent they became a little better.
And its not just DiMaggio there are lots of articles about
How all the medical establishment used to ignore poz girls
Period. They let them die is what they did. It was a conscience genocide.
And I am to principled of a woman to ever support that economy or
A doctor who worked willingly in it.

[ganjina]

I don't know that Argentina is a 3rd world country, probably more 2nd world. Not sure that DiMaggio's refusal to operate on HIV positive patients is a reflection of Argentina's medical standards but more of a reflection up on DiMaggio as a surgeon? As far as Femilife goes, they are quickly gaining the "butcher" reputation, so be happy if they turn you away I would say.

It is third world, take the world of a Latinoamerican having traveled a few dozen countries around. Most of the world is "third world" for that matter.

[jgirl76]

I believe Javier Rossi with T-Change accepts poz patients? I'm assuming yes since I haven't seen anyone say otherwise.
Not going to vilify the entire medical establishment of Argentina for DiMaggio, hopefully things are changing for the better   Oh that reminds me, one of the people on the Cardenas team was a blonde woman Dr. from Argentina, not sure what her role during surgery was but she was super nice. Her eyes glowed of kindness as I entered the OR, it made me feel really good.

Thanks to everyone for answering this thread... I feel my curiosity as to why T-change no longer works with DiMaggio has been  satisfied. I will likely stay with Cardenas for any additional work I feel that I may need.

[jgirl76]

It is third world, take the world of a Latinoamerican having traveled a few dozen countries around. Most of the world is "third world" for that matter.

When I think of 3rd world, I generally think of Africa... I wouldn't liken Argentina to Somalia... as an example. There are 1st world, 2nd world and 3rd world countries. I would put most of Latin American into the 2nd world category, some in the 3rd world. I've seen plenty of video from Buenos Aires and it doesn't look anything like Somalia or Nigeria to me, just saying  

[ganjina]

Yeah it's definitely not on the same level of poverty or violence at all, though the 3rd world definition is still applying. All of us in those countries (or at least the dozens of people I've met and the national diaries) refer our respectives countries as "third wolrd". The third world definition originates from the Cold War, by opposition to the US/West block and the URSS block, there where the unaligned countries, aka the third world, countries which mostly had colonial pasts. It encompassed by extension later on all the poor and non industrialized countries like Cuba or Vietnam despite the fact that they were actually part of the URSS block and not technically third world at all. I do not think it is related to a economics scale of third being the lowest scale and second being halfway through :p. As the term second world came through, it made reference to the URSS block later on, not necessarily to the economies which were halfway through between first and third world economies: indeed it referenced to extremely poor countries like Laos and North Korea and before, Vietnam, Cuba and so on, in spite of the fact that today they are commonly referred as third world due to poverty issues.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_World
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World

PS Though I've heard too that on some other places the definition has been changed to purely an economic one and forgetting the old origin of those terms related to the Cold War. Still we do not use that term in Latam.

[jgirl76]

Yeah it's definitely not on the same level of poverty or violence at all, though the 3rd world definition is still applying. All of us in those countries (or at least the dozens of people I've met and the national diaries) refer our respectives countries as "third wolrd". The third world definition originates from the Cold War, by opposition to the US/West block and the URSS block, there where the unaligned countries, aka the third world, countries which mostly had colonial pasts. It encompassed by extension later on all the poor and non industrialized countries like Cuba or Vietnam despite the fact that they were actually part of the URSS block and not technically third world at all. I do not think it is related to a economics scale of third being the lowest scale and second being halfway through :p. As the term second world came through, it made reference to the URSS block later on, not necessarily to the economies which were halfway through between first and third world economies: indeed it referenced to extremely poor countries like Laos and North Korea and before, Vietnam, Cuba and so on, in spite of the fact that today they are commonly referred as third world due to poverty issues.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_World
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World

Well I call it a 2nd world country   The point being that when we think of 3rd world countries, we think unpaved roads and lack of technology and infrastructure. I do not think of Argentina as 3rd world in that regard. Anyhow, we're way off in the weeds now and way off topic LOL Cheers, Jonnie

[Celia0428]

Argentina used to be a very very bad place to live for trans woman.
Its very recent they became a little better.
And its not just DiMaggio there are lots of articles about
How all the medical establishment used to ignore poz girls
Period. They let them die is what they did. It was a conscience genocide.
And I am to principled of a woman to ever support that economy or
A doctor who worked willingly in it.

Natasha, if you just do some quick research as I am doing now you might realize that you are not as right as you think you are. or just follow the links and read the articles I found. Argentina has the most progressive gender identity law in the world
http://iglhrc.org/content/argentina-adopts-landmark-legislation-recognition-gender-identity
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/05/10/world/americas/argentina-gender-identity/
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/25/world/americas/transgender-advocates-hail-argentina-law.html?_r=0
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/05/argentina-gender-identity-law-takes-effect_n_1570830.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/argentina/10339296/Six-year-old-becomes-first-transgender-child-in-Argentina-to-change-identity.html

And according to this article of the International AIDS society, antiretroviral treatment is covered by the Argentine State for all the people who do not have health insurance:
http://www.jiasociety.org/index.php/jias/article/view/18390/1884
So apparently the conscience genocide you know about must have happened somewhere else. I don't have any problems with getting my surgeries done in this country (but not with a surgeon who acts like a bigot of course)

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