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Started by cherijo, June 12, 2014, 08:37:18 PM

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cherijo

I'm lucky enough to have a very supportive wife and a 2 year old child.  We are thinking hard over what to have the 2 year old start calling me.  He knows "Daddy" very well, and does not say "Mommy", "Mama", etc at all really.  There are various reasons for this, mostly we attribute it to the fact that I've been the at home mom mostly taking care of him.  IN any case, we're trying to figure out the next step as I transition.

I'm ok waiting a while to try and change his name for me.  It doesn't have to change this second.  He's learned this well, and there's time.  I'm thinking it'll be a good 6 months before we consider actually working with him on changing what he calls me, which will be good as I am just now starting hormones anyways.

My question is what other parents have done or have had suggested to them to have their kids call them.  How do we differentiate verbally between Mommy 1 and Mommy 2?
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LordKAT

Pick Mom in another language and use that.
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Michaela Whimsy

My daughter is 3 and I am also worried about this.  Especially the calling me daddy in the wrong place/time.  She FREAKED when I shaved my beard.  The clothes at home she asks about and I just tell that these are more comfy.  She asked me if that's s why mommy wears my t-shirts. Phwew!  I told her yep, exactly, u wear what makes me feel better.
She thinks it is hilarious to use my first name instead of Dad, and the more I think about it, if people see 2 moms and one is referred to by their first name that wouldn't be weird (I'm not a huge fan but, it might be easier).  My wife thinks that her calling me mom takes away from her being mom so it would be easier on her too.
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Just Shelly

This one hurts a lot! My children call me dad, I'm not hurt that they do...I'm more hurt that they feel the need to do so to make there bio mom happy. She will have no part of them calling me mom! Even though I have been a better mother and father to my children then she ever could be!

The other reason it hurts me, is because I feel it hurts them not to call me dad....I've come to think that they feel they have lost there father. If calling me dad makes them feel like I am still there dad than so be it! I thought I had shown them that I am the same person that I was before....just visually different. I was never one to raise my children with some of the values and morals some typical men would....I am still the same way, its just more fitting now. When they do call me dad it does cause some dysphoria, and I also think of the future....what about my grandchildren, their wives....

Its weird most people that know about us just assume that they call me mom....I never expected it at first or even wanted them too. But after the first year I did feel it would be better. I wasn't trying to be there mom....its just that I was assumed as there mother by everyone else...I thought they would just want to do the same. I'm fairly sure they would of just gone with what others thought...but there bio mom felt this would destroy her life. Like she didn't destroy my life already!

I'm not looking forward to fathers day...yes I am there father but its not something I want to, or need to celebrate. What hurts more is that they don't wish me a happy Mothers day...which is acceptable.....but then they don't wish me a happy fathers day....what am I???
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LordKAT

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Bijou

My wife and I literally go by momma 1 or momma 2.
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Just Shelly

Quote from: LordKAT on June 12, 2014, 11:03:06 PM
An upset parent.
Sorry if I came across upset! I am more hurt than anything!

If you knew my story with my ex you would expect me to be upset....but oh well....
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cherijo

Thanks for the input so far loves.  It's really hard to find basic advice like this for trans parents.  There's a TON of advice for parents OF trans kids... not so much for for parents who are trans with kids.  It's a big long dark scary looking tunnel to set foot in, and so many outsiders have their opinion about how you should or shouldn't handle things.  I've already gotten the basic flak for "You're trans.. with a wife.. AND YOU HAVE A CHILD?!?!?  How will your son grow up right without a father?!"  To which I reply, "Better than the way I did after my parents divorced when I was 11!"

I have a lot of respect for my fellow trans like you Just Shelly with kids who don't have the support of their S.O. by their side.  For the kid's sake, even divorced parents should recognize that it's in the kids' best interest to be polite and not be disrespectful to each other.  I know I'm lucky that my SO is staying with me, and that on top of that I live in a state where I don't have to worry about my mother (who is extremely religious right anti-gay, anti-trans, etc) being able to take my kid away from me due to good anti-discrimination laws here.  I wish I could spread that love around a little more.
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Sammy

Thank You for this post and replies given so far - this is something which buggers me as a parent of 3 y.o. She refers to me as "daddy" in public and sometimes calls my name, though she uses very childish version of it which sounds quite gender neutral. When she feels stressed though, she leans to me and calls for "mommy" and people often assume that I am that mom... and refer to me as such, despite clothes I might have on... She is too small to correct them yet, but when she will grow older, I pretty much can see her replying "No, this is not my mommy, this is my daddy" /awkward moment begins/. So far we have not come up with a solution (I would not mind if she calls me Emi) but we definitely need to figure out something.
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suzifrommd

This is a big issue for me. I've always been troubled that there is no word for "the female parent that is not the mother". I don't want the kids to call me mom or mother because that's someone else. But I can't stand "Dad".

It's been over a year and we still haven't figured this out. I don't actually know what my teenage daughter calls me when she's talking to her friends. To my soon-to-be-ex-wife, I'm "other parent". To my face, I'm not much of anything, since she has no idea what to call me.
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Sammy

I would have no issues with being "dad", because that is what I am... and I feel that I dont deserve being called "mom" simply because... We were walking with kiddo on Mother's day, getting greetings from several random people on the street felt validating, yet wrong...
At the same time, being called out by her as "dad" can indeed cause awkward situations. But I cant really find a solution for this now :(.
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Beverly

I have two teenage kids. One calls me by my name at all times, the other calls me "dad" in the house but uses my name when we are out in public.

One time she slipped up and I got a quizzical look, I explained that I was her mother's lesbian partner so I got to be the "dad".
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LordKAT

Quote from: Just Shelly on June 12, 2014, 11:30:41 PM
Sorry if I came across upset! I am more hurt than anything!

If you knew my story with my ex you would expect me to be upset....but oh well....

I think hurt fits into upset. You have every right to feel that way. It sounds like your ex is struggling with acceptance which can't be easy for your kids either.

My kids are divided between some calling me mom, some using my name. It doesn't bother me as they are adults. If they weren't, I think I would rather find something else like dad, but in another language so that it sounds more like a pet name but if looked into, would look as dad.

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awilliams124

My two call me dad in the home (they are 12 and 14) and have done since my transition two and a half years ago. I'm not their mum, they already had, and have, one of those.

Prior to counselling I remember with a cringe saying if they call me dad in public I will just walk away. Of course it was pointed out to me that they are children, so what else are they going to call me? I imagined the world would stop spinning if it happened, but of course it doesn't.

My children know they can call me whatever they wish and I think they should have the right to do so as long as it is respectful. If the price of that is the odd embarrassing moment for me then for the sake of their wellbeing it is so totally worth it.  Incidentally, without any prompting, they seem to be choosing to call me Mandy in front of their friends, and that is fine with me but dad would be ok too.

Transition is potentially hard on the children so we try to ease that burden by letting them determine what happens to them. Thankfully this has resulted in them being confident enough to ask me not to attend a parents' evening and to nag me to death to come to school concerts and shows they were in. In fact my daughter is a little cross that my GRS next month will prevent me from attending her next show and her guest slot fronting a band! I much prefer that situation to them suppressing their feelings and then possibly feeling awkward just to avoid potentially upsetting me.

Things are probably different with much younger children of course and I have no idea if that makes it easier or more difficult. I wouldn't suggest our way should work for everyone, but it works for us and it seems to have made life easier for our children than it might otherwise have been. In our role as parents that has to be the main objective doesn't it?
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RosieD

Mine call me Rosie though I did prepare the ground a bit by getting them used to calling me *deadname* beforehand. It seems to have made it easier to move to Rosie.

There is a fledgling trans*parent day (google should find it for you) which my youngest (14) is happiest using. The older ones generally don't talk to me too much so it doesn't really matter.

Rosie
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stephaniec

Quote from: LordKAT on June 13, 2014, 07:26:50 AM
I think hurt fits into upset. You have every right to feel that way. It sounds like your ex is struggling with acceptance which can't be easy for your kids either.

My kids are divided between some calling me mom, some using my name. It doesn't bother me as they are adults. If they weren't, I think I would rather find something else like dad, but in another language so that it sounds more like a pet name but if looked into, would look as dad.
I don't have children and never will, but I think LordKat has a good idea
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Hex

I ended up just having both my kids call me by my first name. I tried the whole Dad/daddy thing with my husband being daddy and they got utterly confused. It was one heck of a week here at my house haha. So switching to using Hex has worked out wonderfully so far. It wasn't my ideal and I still wish they would call me dad from time to time but it is what it is. At least my husband refers to me as their dad here and there.

As far as your situation, Maybe your wife could be mom and you nana/mommy/ or any other thing you might prefer? I know it takes a lot of constant reminding for the first couple of weeks from both parents and children learn best from example. So once you pick a name for your self, both your wife and you need to use it a ton. Eventually it'll stick.
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nikkit72

Well, mine calls me dad. I am happy with that. After all that is exactly what my biological relationship to my son is. My son is 8 by the way. I guess I will wait for him to make his own mind up what to call me later on. I do not think I have the 'right' to take that away from him, however, gentle steering, between now and a more understanding age, to calling me Nikki will happen. He has always thought of me as a girl though. I feel that I am one of the lucky ones to have a supportive wife and a loving son so I feel I owe them a bit of leeway. There will come a point in time where calling me dad will be a bit odd and questions will need answers and 'dad' will no longer be used.

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