any mtfs in japan and canada?

[ji.aaaa]

Hi! I am just very curious because right now I will be moving anytime soon for work and i am torn between these two countries. Now, heres my question,

1) How is it like being a mtf trans in both countries? are they well accepted by the society and can easily deal with people or is it the other way around? (less discrimination in public places, work etc. that's what im talkin here).



3) EQUAL RIGHTS AND PEACE OF MIND? (wherein i can walk to the streets without the fear of being bashed and preached by some close minded people out there and more legal rights)

  Im just 20 now and somewhat passable as a woman , i dont dress as a female full time and thats what i think the reason why i am just 75% passable. i tried to search a comparison between these countries but i think its really personal experiences from different gals that matter now.

I'm okay with my country eventhough im in a very conservative christian community with fellow muslims, I MUST say thatbeing lgbt in here is not that hard because it widely open everywhere and somewhat tolerated by the society.

LOoking forward for all your replies ^_^

Pre-op trans from the phils.

[Joan]

Hi ji.aaaa

Mtf in Japan, here.

In answer to your questions...

1) I'll tell you when I try coming out at work (still presenting male), or when I try to find a job.  I've yet to have any problems using restrooms or be ejected from restaurants, bars...or anywhere.  Transsexuals are fairly visible in mainstream media and generally accepted if occasionally lightly ridiculed.

2) I have never once felt in danger, never once been verbally abused, and the worst I have experienced is being laughed at by horrible bald fat drunk man as I came out of my gender clinic.

I've never been to Canada, but I really hope to someday

Hope that helps

[Natkat]

I never been to canada so I think someone ells on this focum will speak for that, But I have been in Japan and know many japanese people from my previous school and I never felt threatned at all being there for being trans or other reasons. I did not 100% pass so there where one lady who asked if I was a boy or a girl and when I said boy she said. "really wow you are so cute even when you are kinda small" my mtf friend have also been there and I did not hear her complain the only thing she found annoying was she is asian so everyone pretty much expected her to know japanese even when her japanese skills are limited.

Japanese people are in general peacefull and japan is pretty safe country in general to be, so you shouldn't worry about being attacked on the street, the worst would be people looking at you but if you arnt asian they will look anyway specially if you are in a small town. if you live in a big city like tokyo you also have alot of bars and so you can go to in shinjuku.
I think workplace could be a problem, many glbt people worry of comming out on there job because they are nervous of how it will infect the company.
I guess it more a cultural problem because japan is still abit shy for things which are new or out and proud and fear or putting troubles for others, not sure exactly how to explain that, but if you where gay you could walk by your boyfriend hand in hand and nobody would say or harm you for it, however it not very normal to expose your sexuality public so you dont normally see gay or straight people do so, so it may be considered wierd.

I think Japanese view on lgbt is also abit diffrent from the western, they got many simular words but they also got some of there own like "new-half"
I hear many japanese do not put much diffrence between sexuality and gender identity, many exemple belive if 2 gay people are together then one is more of "the man" and one is more of the woman,
and if you are mtf then you would atomatically be attracted to boys.

I talked with my japanese teacher about that before I went to japan, he said with that in mind it can somethimes be consider more easy being trans than gay, but it sure depends on what type of trans and type of gay you are.
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[Natkat]

If you have facebook and knowlegde of japanese languarge you can also ask on this group called transgender & newhalf and ask people: ---> トランスジェンダー & ニューハーフ <-----
English post are also allowed but most japanese dont understand or speak much english so if you can or know someone who can writte and translate japanese it would be alot better.

[Joan]

Natkat

Do you have a link to that group? I googled it but it doesn't seem to come up.

Thanks

[Natkat]

Natkat

Do you have a link to that group? I googled it but it doesn't seem to come up.

Thanks

https://www.facebook.com/groups/newhalf/
no its not shown on google, its a close group on facebook so you have to have a facebook acount and look in,
and then you writte:  トランスジェンダー & ニューハーフ  in the seach field
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theres probably also other groups and forums out there but this was what I found by a quick seach, and seams open for foreginers which is good.

[Joan]

Thank you, Natkat.

I will see if they'll let me in!

All the best to you

[EmoAlice]

Canada, as you know, is very large, and like the US can vary greatly in the answers to the questions you have from one part to the next.  I would definitely say that on the whole, it's probably quite a bit better for acceptance than most places.

[Ayden]

OP: I'm not from Japan and I am on the guy side, but i do live in osaka japan. if I can help, please pm me.

[DolceFragola]

I'm in Canada (Quebec).

Most of the time, it's fine. Mind you, I'm passing fairly well, so it's easier, but on the whole, I don't get much nonsense. I have been harassed a few times, though.

Legal rights, it's so and so. It's difficult to get served whenever I show ID, and I was even denied the renewal fomy health insurance card. I'm having a hard time getting my name change. We had a law passed to allow legal sex change without surgery, but it's getting blocked by bureaucracy. But it's better than what's going on elsewhere.

[Natkat]

Thank you, Natkat.

I will see if they'll let me in!

All the best to you

thanks, you too

I'm sure they will let you in,
its only if you are not mtf, then they will look at your profile and expect you to explain why you join the comunity to avoid spam and such.
only thing annoying is it manly Mtf, I couldn't find any japanese ftm groups =/ if you know some pleace say.
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[EllieM]

Canada is wide, but only has a tenth of USA's population. I live in the most populated province, Ontario. It's pretty enlightened here, there are Pride celebrations every summer in our cities, SRS is covered by our government health plan, most people are very accepting of LGBT. We just had an election here, our Premier, an openly gay woman, was given a majority mandate by the voters.

There are non-discrimination rules here, and certainly what I have seen in my own work place is very encouraging. Some employers (like mine) even provide gender-neutral washrooms.

Ontario Legislature, February 2014:

[JesseG]

Heya,
MtF here in Western Canada. We have a reputation for being the 'Texas of Canada'. Well, that may be true in the countryside, but the cities feel decently tolerant. Maybe not 'San Francisco tolerant', but people don't throw rocks. Calgary pride parade is well attended. Last week at a lgbt event we had the mayor make a visit via teleconference

Calgary has a conservative-but-easy-going vibe; people may disapprove, but they aren't very combative. The worst I got in public so far is raised eyebrows and a smirk (I'm not passable btw). More tellingly, my MfF friends who are full-time have said that they can live their lives without much trouble. About 80% of the 'coming out at work' stories I hear are positive. You'll always find SOME people that are judgmental, but real harassment is not very common in the city. Other things that help: unemployment is low, and crime rate is low, so you don't see a lot of angry restless dudes.

I've heard some hick harassment stories from the rural parts, however.

[ji.aaaa]

If you have facebook and knowlegde of japanese languarge you can also ask on this group called transgender & newhalf and ask people: ---> トランスジェンダー & ニューハーフ <-----
English post are also allowed but most japanese dont understand or speak much english so if you can or know someone who can writte and translate japanese it would be alot better.

tnx for this , i will be joining very soon. i know a lil bit japanese so maybe. still need help so yeah tnx for this hugs ;*

[ji.aaaa]

OP: I'm not from Japan and I am on the guy side, but i do live in osaka japan. if I can help, please pm me.

omg! if ill be at japan , i will be linving at osaka anyways. yes hope u cud help. ill pm u now.  thanks

[ji.aaaa]

Canada is wide, but only has a tenth of USA's population. I live in the most populated province, Ontario. It's pretty enlightened here, there are Pride celebrations every summer in our cities, SRS is covered by our government health plan, most people are very accepting of LGBT. We just had an election here, our Premier, an openly gay woman, was given a majority mandate by the voters.

There are non-discrimination rules here, and certainly what I have seen in my own work place is very encouraging. Some employers (like mine) even provide gender-neutral washrooms.

Ontario Legislature, February 2014:

oh its good to hear that there are employers like you as such, anyways . i will be living in vancouver if ever. so do ya hav any idea bout this place? btw tnx for your informative response

[ji.aaaa]

oh its good to hear that there are employers like you as such, anyways . i will be living in vancouver if ever. so do ya hav any idea bout this place? btw tnx for your informative response

employers like you have i mean

[EllieM]

Vancouver is expensive to live in, compared to eastern Canada, but oh yes, it is LGBT friendly.