3 months hrt and no boobs...

[cass]

If your e levels are up then your t levels will have come down so your moving in the right direction 

[ana1111]

are my e levels in the female range or not yet?

[Gina_Z]

Is that your face? You look great! Beautiful. Some beautiful women have small boobs. Give yourself some time. Have patience.

[Kyra553]

Well I would say the results vary from the date you take your meds. If your on injections then they will rocket up for a week then decline back down by week two.  So its still possible the T is out doing the E. But I would say your getting closer.

[ana1111]

Yes that is me and thank you very much for the compliment! ^^
I am fine with having small boobs but right now I have none at all...
also I take the oral medication not injections if that helps... I will update everyone on Thursday when I get the results of my blood tests

[KayXo]

Ok so I found out yesterday that my estradiol levels went up from 20 to sixty something... but the results for my t levels aren't ready yet and they will have them by Thursday. So what do my e levels tell everyone??

VERY low.

[KayXo]

are my e levels in the female range or not yet?

I'm assuming your levels are in pg/ml. Low or high, they will always be in range as range is VERY wide.

Am J Med. 1995 Aug;99(2):119-22.
Estrogen acutely increases peripheral blood flow in postmenopausal women.

"normal postmenopausal plasma concentration less than 200 pmol/L (less than 54 pg/ml); normal premenopausal physiologic ranges: luteal 368  to 1,100 pmol/L (100 – 300 pg/ml), midcycle 785 to 1,840 pmol/L (214 – 501 pg/ml), follicular 74 to 368 pmol/L (20 – 100 pg/ml) for estradiol"

Maturitas. 2005 Apr 11;50(4):266-74.
Acute administration of 17beta-estradiol improves endothelium-dependent vasodilation in postmenopausal women.

"Normal concentrations obtained via a fluorometric method, vary with the phase of the woman's menstrual cycle. During the follicular phase, they range from 35 to 184 pg/mL; during the ovulatory phase, from 191 to 540 pg/mL; and during the luteal phase, from 40 to 228 pg/mL; at menopause, the 17β-estradiol level decreases to about 35 pg/mL. »

http://www.specialtylabs.com/clients/outreach/web/site/details.asp?tid=44312&cid=301&keyword=

Normals for Males: 11 - 44 pg/mL
Female normal by day of the week relative to LH peak:
Follicular: 21 - 251 pg/mL
Mid Cycle: 38 - 649 pg/mL
Luteal: 21 - 312 pg/mL
Post menopausal (HRT): 0 - 144 pg/mL
Post menopausal (non-HRT): 0 - 28 pg/mL

http://www.ilexmedical.com/files/PDF/Estradiol_ARC.pdf
"Normal estradiol levels are lowest at menses and into the early follicular
phase (25-75 pg/mL) and then rise in the late follicular phase to a peak
of 200-600 pg/mL just before the LH surge, which is normally followed
immediately by ovulation. As LH peaks, estradiol begins to decrease
before rising again during the luteal phase (100-300 pg/mL)."

AND

"If conception occurs, estradiol levels continue
to rise, reaching levels of 1,000-5,000 pg/mL during the first trimester,
5,000-15,000 pg/mL during second trimester, and 10,000-40,000 pg/mL
during third trimester. 6-8"

Finally from http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/cgi/content-nw/full

These levels were obtained just before labor/delivery, at the end of pregnancy which lasted on average, 38 weeks.

Mean estradiol levels (E2): 24,000 pg/ml, Range: from 800-75,000 pg/ml

[KayXo]

Well I would say the results vary from the date you take your meds. If your on injections then they will rocket up for a week then decline back down by week two.  So its still possible the T is out doing the E. But I would say your getting closer.

She's not on injections. On injections, levels really peak days 1-2 and then significantly drop days 7-8.

Contraception. 1980 Apr;21(4):415-24.
A comparison of the pharmacokinetic properties of three estradiol esters.
Oriowo MA, Landgren BM, Stenström B, Diczfalusy E


"Peak plasma levels of estradiol and estrone were reached in approximately 4 days following the administration of estradiol cypionate and in a significantly shorter time (approximately 2 days) following the administration of both the valerate and benzoate. One hour after the injection of the esters, the average percentage increases in plasma estradiol and estrone levels were significantly higher in the valerate and benzoate groups compared to the subjects receiving estradiol cypionate. The average duration of elevated estrogen levels was shortest in the benzoate group (4-5 days) followed by the valerate (7-8 days) and cypionate (approximately 11 days). In none of the subjects studied were elevated estradiol and/or estrone levels encountered 2 weeks after the injection of the various esters."

[ana1111]

so could my low levels be why im not having any growth??

[KayXo]

YES! BUT, you need to discuss this with a COMPETENT doctor. I'm not the expert. Show him/her those ranges and he/she will surely be convinced that your levels are too low.

[teeg]

Three months is still in the early stages of HRT. Like others have said your levels could probably be a little higher, but in my opinion it's probably for the best to gradually increase your estrogen dose, so that's a positive!

Within the first couple months I had a lot of tenderness and buds under my nipples, but everyone's growth is different. If you literally have no tenderness, no buds, nothing... then you might want to talk to your doctor about it.

[ana1111]

that's it though I have no tenderness or nothing

[Hideyoshi]

so could my low levels be why im not having any growth??

Yup. At those levels, I was getting just a little breast growth. It wasn't until I got E to above 100 that I started to accelerate in changes.

Talk with your doctor about increasing dose if you aren't getting the changes you desire

[Gina_Z]

You might also consider the pellet method.