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3 months hrt and no boobs...

Started by ana1111, June 20, 2014, 08:16:40 AM

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ana1111

Ok so ive been on hrt for about three months and still no sign of any breast growth....no pain, soreness or anything like that.... The weird thing is I could swear there has been other significant changes to my body that others have noticed too... basically though my doctor has me on just E right now. She started me on a ow dosage and now its a bit higher... is not having any breast growth at three months normal given my dosage and the fact that im only 18 years old?? Everyone in my family has large breasts so the genes are there but is there any significant chance that I won't grow breasts at all?
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Kyra553

My  Endo is pretty much giving me the same treatment as you. You will not see a change in breasts until past the sixth month mark and sometimes longer or even never. Its all about how your body handles the hormones and what the genetics tell your body to do with them.  Though personally I will not remain on just Eestro. I plan to ask my endo during my next appt about starting spiro and maybe some other helpful things. :)
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ana1111

So theres a chance it may never happen??  >:(
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Eva Marie

Everyone is different, and in the scheme of things 3 months is really no time at all. A teenage girl's puberty takes years.

Since you posted your dosages (you need to remove that info or you can expect a message from a moderator soon - posting dosages is against the TOS) I can say that you have been on a low dose HRT regimen and you are just now getting into a dose that will have more effect. I was on low dose HRT for about 4 years and my breast growth was minimal. I am on a much higher dose now and things have begun to really move along nicely.

Is your doctor going to prescribe an anti-androgen to go with the estrogen?
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Hikari

They don't want us posting dosages, but I am on your second months dose and I have been for 4 months and the breast growth has been hard to hide. I am 28.

I know my breasts were sore before starting an antiandrogen, but I didn't get much growth till I went on spiro then bicalutamide, I only had a month of E only so perhaps that wasn't enough time to get them to seriously grow but they certainly hurt at that time. And now you are on double my dose of E.

My question then is Does your family have a history of slow development? Not all cisgirls develop at the same rate so trans girls don't either. Also what form of E? I take sublingual Estradiol, for example.

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ana1111

ok I removed the doses but ya my doctor said if an antiandrogen is necessary later on she will add it but ya now im worried...
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ana1111

I take the pill form of estradiol
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KayXo

You can discuss your concerns with your doctor but it's always good to wait at least a few months to see whether the change has been beneficial or not. My personal feeling is that adding an anti-androgen will quickstart things so you might want to ask about that...bicalutamide is a much more potent anti-androgen than spiro and it appears, with much less side-effects so you could suggest that one to him/her and see what they think. Good luck! 
I am not a medical doctor, nor a scientist - opinions expressed by me on the subject of HRT are merely based on my own review of some of the scientific literature over the last decade or so, on anecdotal evidence from women in various discussion forums that I have come across, and my personal experience

On HRT since early 2004
Post-op since late 2005
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ana1111

I already asked abot spiro and she said not yet
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Jessica Merriman

Quote from: Annabolton on June 20, 2014, 11:14:20 AM
I already asked abot spiro and she said not yet
You may want to find another doctor sweetie. Spiro an anti-androgen is usually the FIRST HRT medication people are put on. It does no good to take low dose Estrogen if there is nothing blocking the Testosterone. Does your doctor have any experience at all with transgender patients?
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ana1111

she supposedly has a lot of experience... she says estrogen can lower testosterone by itself...
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Jessica Merriman

Quote from: Annabolton on June 20, 2014, 11:41:48 AM
she supposedly has a lot of experience... she says estrogen can lower testosterone by itself...
Not low dose sweetie! I would look around for a new doctor as it appears this one does not have your best interest at heart unless there were some problems with your blood test results. HEYHO is right, the quicker you get aggressive with HRT the better you will look and develop.  :)
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Megan Joanne

3 months is nothing. It took me a very long time to see anything for myself and still I am very small breasted. But see my mom when she was younger she said she had very small breasts, other girls would make fun of her mosquito bites for tits, it wasn't until she had babies that they got bigger. I still look like I'm going through female puberty up top. You gotta think, no matter what the genetics are with the female members are in your family, they were born completely with estrogenic producing bodies and all the right stuff, we as trans-women, we started out with the wrong bodies, got all that testosterone to battle against, so don't expect any miracles. Just enjoy how you feel and the little things, give it time, then look back on yourself before ever starting HRT, you'll see the changes that you didn't even notice were happening.
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Jill F

At the three month mark (low dose only), all I could do was begin to fake a little cleavage if I pushed everything together. 

At a year and a half, it's a small "B".

My wife told me it took her about 5 years to hit a "D".  I don't want to rush things because my endo said that mimicking a GG's puberty yields the best results.  If you get too aggressive, the HRT can sometimes actually work against your development.  I'm in no hurry (probably beacuse I'm old now and years just fly by), and refuse to get a BA until everything is "done".   I would hate to rush the boob job, end up too top heavy and having two sets of scars instead of never needing the BA in the first place.  Hell, I can work with a "C". 
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ana1111

ok heres where im at. Just today I got my first blood test after being on the hormones. I have my next appointment on Monday at the endo and I will ask about the results of the blood test... if my testosterone hasn't gone down at all and she still refuses to add the blocke I will then see about looking for a different doctor. Ultimately though I honestly feel like theres been a lot of changes already. Not just visually either. Old pants fit way tighter in the hips and butt and my skin feels smoother my shoulders are less muscular etc... this doctor was recommended on a list of trans friendly endo's so im gunna give her the benefit of the doubt for a little bit longer and if I find my t levels are still the same and all the changes were some big placebo and she still refuses to add spiro I will leave. Also my original dose for the first month or so was low but my current dose this month is not low... not super high either
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Evolving Beauty

If you're on Estradiol Valerate you can expect that cos me during 5 years I haven't had any boobs, not even cup A. I just had my boobs implants directly by the end. My other friends succeeded with Ethinyl estradiol which is a very potent form of estrogen but more dangerous that its taken only in micrograms. Ask your endo if he could prescribe you that but it's risky. Risky but quicker, me I preferered and took the slower way but safer that's why I remained on Estradiol valerate during 5 years despite it never gave me neither boobs nor hips but just smooth skin.
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Hikari

Quote from: Evolving Beauty on June 20, 2014, 12:26:42 PM
If you're on Estradiol Valerate you can expect that cos me during 5 years I haven't had any boobs, not even cup A. I just had my boobs implants directly by the end. My other friends succeeded with Ethinyl estradiol which is a very potent form of estrogen but more dangerous that its taken only in micrograms. Ask your endo if he could prescribe you that but it's risky. Risky but quicker, me I preferered and took the slower way but safer that's why I remained on Estradiol valerate during 5 years despite it never gave me neither boobs nor hips but just smooth skin.
Ymmv because I am on estradiol valerate and after 4 months I am fitting into my C cup bras.... What works for one may not work for others our bodies are all different.
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mac1

Quote from: Jill F on June 20, 2014, 12:15:31 PM
At the three month mark (low dose only), all I could do was begin to fake a little cleavage if I pushed everything together. 

At a year and a half, it's a small "B".

My wife told me it took her about 5 years to hit a "D".  I don't want to rush things because my endo said that mimicking a GG's puberty yields the best results.  If you get too aggressive, the HRT can sometimes actually work against your development.  I'm in no hurry (probably beacuse I'm old now and years just fly by), and refuse to get a BA until everything is "done".   I would hate to rush the boob job, end up too top heavy and having two sets of scars instead of never needing the BA in the first place.  Hell, I can work with a "C".

I would like to have size "C" female boobs. However, my wife would not go for me having hormone treatments so I would have to find some way that would make it appear to be natural.
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EllieM


Anna, I agree with Jessica about the antiandrogen. You need to drop the T level. I understand that they are sometimes slow to prescribe spiro because of the diuretic effects, but there are other AAs they can use. You might want to inquire about buserelin acetate, just a suggestion. Additionally, my endo also prescribed prometrium. I understand that the use of progesterone is debated, but it couldn't hurt to ask your doc about it. It takes time, you are young, have some patience. You are going to be even more fab than you already are, my dear :)
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ana1111

So does that mean all the changes are just in my head :/
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