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Stages of Grief/Acceptance?

Started by Contravene, June 19, 2014, 04:53:14 PM

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Contravene

I've heard that it's pretty common for people to go through the five stages of grief when a loved one comes out to them. I believe my own family is going through the stages because they've all shown signs of denial and anger so far but I'm just speculating. They at least seem to be in the bargaining stage right now because they won't allow me to go places with them and such unless I say I want to be a woman and am no longer transgender. As you can probably imagine, it's extremely painful so I just wanted to know if it would eventually get better. I could easily just say I'm no longer transgender just to appease them but that doesn't seem right.

I was wondering if anyone else has experienced people going through these stages after coming out to them and if so what happened during those stages?

For anyone unfamiliar with the stages they are:
Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance.

I appreciate any feedback.
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Jessica Merriman

As a Paramedic I am all too familiar with all the stages. The worse one I experienced with my family was the bargaining stage. Was I ever happy when that one was over, ugh. They promised everything under the sun to get me to stay the same. I probably could have had my own Adams A500 Aircraft if I wanted. It was kind of amusing at the same time what people will do to eliminate stress and attention from themselves. They finally clued into the fact I am female and will be the rest of my life. That's when the depression sat in on them. They are out of it now, but things will never be the same. They could not believe money could not cure my Dysphoria. That is the point acceptance (begrudgingly) sat in and they knew this was my life now.  :)
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Contravene

Thanks for the reply Jessica. My dad seems similar in thinking it's possible to buy my way out of being transgender. I'm glad your family is accepting now even if they did accept things begrudgingly. I guess I'll just have to try to be patient while everyone goes through the different stages.
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Taka

i kind of wonder how much money it would take to make bargaining parents to get a sex change... most would probably not do it even for all the money in the world.
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spacerace

Wow, I had never thought about the stages of grief - but looking back at my own situation relative to my partner, it unfolded exactly that way with him:

Denial:

When I first told him I knew something was seriously wrong with my sexuality or gender, and that being with him as his female partner was just too much for me anymore, we decided to just be best friends who live each other. Then, awhile later, I came out to him as transgender. He denied that it was possible. Vile transphobic jokes made in passive aggressive ways. He went of his way to assert aspects of femininity in me whenever possible.

Another form denial at this time was the pretense of relationship where we still got along with each other same as always. He was there for me in a major way at one point in our lives, so I let a lot of the above behavior slide as a weird undertone to what was otherwise a great friendship built on years of being together.

Anger:

But - all this denial was a mask for anger. His anger at 'decisions about his life that were made without his approval,' that I single-handedly changed his entire life without his permission. The 'jokes' about me being trans turned into outright insults. I wanted to move out, but was not yet in a place when it was possible. He knew this and understood it, and we both felt increasingly trapped. The anger boiled over and was sparked by pretty much any sort of disagreement, by both us.

Bargaining:

Then, out of nowhere, it was like the dam broke. We had a really long talk that went all night and into the morning, and both of us cried and we hugged, and we talked about how much we love each other. But we were still just friends - we slept in different rooms, etc. Then we started having a physical relationship again. I had started T by the point. He suddenly found himself in an awkward position.

The bargaining came in with how he justified it to himself, "only until T the effects really show, etc etc" then it became..."ok, but you can't have facial hair,".  "I will never call you by male pronouns." "I still don't think this is a real thing."   He would get uncomfortable when we were in public together and people thought he was my older brother, but he would still be happy for me that I passed.

Depression:

Even as we were better than ever, he straight up got really depressed and slept all day for a couple of months. He had no interest in anything but sleeping or video games. We were great, but he just lacked interest in anything else in his life.  During this time, he started becoming more supportive. Still made jokes, but they were in context - like someone teasing a kid with a changing voice, when my voice would squeak, etc.

Acceptance:

Time and acceptance I think pulled him out of his funk. We had our roommate move out, so we could live together as a couple again without a third wheel. He just got a great new job, and I told him, "I'd rather you not mention me than refer to me as female." And he said, "I will call you my partner (male name)." Which is a huge deal for us. I couldn't believe it when he said that.

He has publicly defended trans people, makes understanding remarks, gives me tips about passing better -everything is so much better.

I should say this took a really, really long time. The first break up conversation was at the beginning of 2011. We are just now great as of very recently. Also, we have now lived together for 10 years.

So, have patience.
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JoanneB

I know I personally am going or have gone through them with myself in coming to terms with who I am. (Actually still working on 'Bargaining'. ) My wife of many years I am sure passed through many of them. Bargaining is not on the list simply because her love for me will not allow her to stand between me and my happiness. My love for her keeps me from not respect her concerns and wishes in certain areas.
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King Malachite

When I came out to my sister, she went through the denial and bargaining stage and is still there in my opinion. First, she told me that I wasn't transgender and that I just feel that way because of my father not really being there for me and some other bad stuff happening in my life.  Afterwards, we were just talking and she told me that if I were rich, she'd pay for me to get my teeth fixed, get weight loss surgery, and get me and my mom into a new house with my own personal game room, but she wouldn't give me money because she know I'll move into another state and perhaps transition, but if I'm here that would be harder (not what she said, but I'm thinking that's what she really meant) so I felt that was a type of "bargain" or somehow if she ever gets rich.
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