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Will straight girls date transmen?

Started by ScottyMac, June 23, 2014, 02:46:33 PM

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Kyler

Quote from: Jill F on June 24, 2014, 07:53:26 PM
You should tell that to all of my gay friends who have kids.

I'm in a gay relationship and we could definitely have kids.
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aleon515

1. homosexual and trans people have kids.
2. Not all of us trans guys are so sensitive and empathetic, I really have to work at it.
3. Some cis gals like us and some don't.

--Jay
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Brandon

Quote from: Greeneyedrebel on June 24, 2014, 01:07:00 PM
To the above, I would say it is more a matter of who you are as a PERSON, considering confidence and stability....than passing or physical "tells" or how long/if you're on T. Sorry, but I just can't tie attraction and desire up with barriers where "If you pass this mark or level of maleness...I will consider being attrracted to you or dating you."

Well I'm younger than you and thats what girls want n hs masculinity and a nice fit body which I have, But in hs you can't any sign of femaleness unless your dating a bi girl so yes in highschool of you want a straight gf thats what it takes and helps to have everyone know and see you as male to. Know if your out of hs yes there are different expectations and so her marturity level most likely went up so its easier specially on T.
keep working hard and you can get anything you want.    -Aaliyah
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Brandon

Quote from: ineverknewyou on June 24, 2014, 05:26:25 PM
Another factor, I guess, some cis-women are looking for males they can start familys with etc, so unless they are willing to adopt/get a donor etc, I don't see a problem. That's the only thing I can think of as to why it could be a deal-breaker.
But homosexuals can't have kids either, so I don't know how a straight cis-girl would react to being in that situation herself, for many it's ok


Not all guys can give a woman a baby trans or not hell my uncl can't but it never stopped and some guys just don't want kids. Its called infertility. But who knows you could end up meeting a woman who already had a child and you could father him or her.
keep working hard and you can get anything you want.    -Aaliyah
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Brandon

Quote from: Felix on June 24, 2014, 08:27:40 PM
The thing about wanting to make kids seems weird to me. Lots of cis/hetero people are sterile, and you almost never hear about conflict around that detail with them.

Because watching my wife have my baby while holding her hand would be a beautiful thing, Life is beautiful so us Birth. Not only that watching that child grow up into a man or woman. But agree with the second part.
keep working hard and you can get anything you want.    -Aaliyah
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ineverknewyou

I deleted my message because it wasn't really thought through. But as I can see it won't be totally removed because it's still quoted.
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Felix

Quote from: Brandon on June 24, 2014, 11:23:12 PM
Well I'm younger than you and thats what girls want n hs masculinity and a nice fit body which I have, But in hs you can't any sign of femaleness unless your dating a bi girl so yes in highschool of you want a straight gf thats what it takes and helps to have everyone know and see you as male to. Know if your out of hs yes there are different expectations and so her marturity level most likely went up so its easier specially on T.
I think you'd be surprised at how completely different the high school scene can be from school to school.

Quote from: Brandon on June 24, 2014, 11:37:01 PM
Because watching my wife have my baby while holding her hand would be a beautiful thing, Life is beautiful so us Birth. Not only that watching that child grow up into a man or woman. But agree with the second part.
A lot of people aren't into that time, and it only lasts a day or two anyhow. I have a kid, and childbirth was not the beautiful part for me. It's beautiful to watch her discover the world and enjoy life, but the pushing her out was gory and expensive. Childbirth is dramatic and important, but they come out covered in slime and blood, and there's a lot of screaming and misery involved.

There are a ton of already-born children in group homes who would love to have you as a father, and who could show you just as much beauty and meaning as they develop.

The bigger point was really not that though. I just never hear the argument about fertility with cispeople. Nobody checks sperm counts or uterine function before dating a cisperson unless they are in their late thirties or forties, and even then it would probably be seen as weird and a little offensive to most.
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Brandon

Quote from: Felix on June 26, 2014, 12:45:49 AM
I think you'd be surprised at how completely different the high school scene can be from school to school.
A lot of people aren't into that time, and it only lasts a day or two anyhow. I have a kid, and childbirth was not the beautiful part for me. It's beautiful to watch her discover the world and enjoy life, but the pushing her out was gory and expensive. Childbirth is dramatic and important, but they come out covered in slime and blood, and there's a lot of screaming and misery involved.

There are a ton of already-born children in group homes who would love to have you as a father, and who could show you just as much beauty and meaning as they develop.

The bigger point was really not that though. I just never hear the argument about fertility with cispeople. Nobody checks sperm counts or uterine function before dating a cisperson unless they are in their late thirties or forties, and even then it would probably be seen as weird and a little offensive to most.



Well I'm speaking from were I'm from and where I go to school at yes if you don't look like a guy look scrawny and not masculine your not gettimg anything from highschool straight girls because immaturitu but I lucked out.


And of course childbirth wouldn't be good or fun for your trans, You probaly didn't wanna have a baby like that anyways but for some it's beautiful.


And I agree with the last part alot of straight girls use childbirth as an excuse for why they won't date a transguy not realizing some bio guys can't do it either.
keep working hard and you can get anything you want.    -Aaliyah
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Felix

Quote from: Brandon on June 26, 2014, 02:38:28 PM


Well I'm speaking from were I'm from and where I go to school at yes if you don't look like a guy look scrawny and not masculine your not gettimg anything from highschool straight girls because immaturitu but I lucked out.


And of course childbirth wouldn't be good or fun for your trans, You probaly didn't wanna have a baby like that anyways but for some it's beautiful.


And I agree with the last part alot of straight girls use childbirth as an excuse for why they won't date a transguy not realizing some bio guys can't do it either.
I don't know if I want to argue about any of this. I'm really happy for people who see childbirth as glorious, or who go to a school with popularity rules they like. But I did not see myself as trans when I had a baby. I saw myself as a woman (albeit an odd one), and my boyfriend saw himself as a man. He asked me to marry him. We checked all the boxes. I went to a lot of high schools and dropped out, but even my favorite school didn't have a dominant culture that I could generalize to the rest of the world. Life is not that simple, and most of us have a type we find sexy that has nothing to do with high school (or middle school or college) popularity. Tiny social bubbles are not useful.

It's complicated. When I was living as a straight girl, I had no idea transmen existed. I would have loved them back then - interchangeable prosthetic member, understanding of gender issues, no need for birth control - but obviously my opinion is biased. The first transman I dated would have had to deal with my new awareness and transition and then probable breakup.
everybody's house is haunted
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