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Is getting a realistic penis possible?

Started by ScottyMac, June 23, 2014, 11:17:34 AM

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Ephemeral

Quote from: h3llsb3lls on June 30, 2014, 05:04:47 AM
Getting back on topic, if I get bottom surgery it will be meta. I'm just not happy with any of the Phallo results I've seen anywhere. But, that being said, my top priority is top surgery, and I'm willing to wait quite a while for bottom surgery so there is time to improve the technology. I don't want to sound offensive but the only decent Phallo results I've seen were MLP from the back dorsal, and even then it didn't look great. I tend to think that forearm Phallo results look kind of like play dough.

I second this. I wonder what makes people's perception of phalloplasty differ so widely. Some people seem to think the results are great overall and some people not. I used to belong to the former camp. I understand that it may seem offensive to those who have had phallo already to say that the results are not so good overall but we need to remember that this is our personal judgement; no offense is intended and if you are satisfied with your results that's great! No one can tell you otherwise, but it doesn't mean that I, when I am going to have my own phallo, is going to want those results.

Also, the title is clearly discussing the subject of a "realistic penis", and on that question I have to honestly say the answer is quite resoundingly no. Unless you consider meta, which is the closest thing to the real deal you'll get both in terms of form and function aside being more of a micropenis.
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Brandon

Quote from: Ephemeral on June 30, 2014, 04:38:07 AM
Please cite actual studies, not anecdotal conjecture. If you read up your science you'd know that women react as strongly to visual stimulus as men do and that women think about as much about sex. Just because people don't articulate certain thoughts it doesn't mean they don't exist. Male and female socialization is very different but thanks for proving that male socialization emphasizes sex more.


No they don't man sorry to tell you thats false as hell, And I never said women don't think about but men think about it more. I don't need to sight anything maybe you need to get out more to know.
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h3llsb3lls


For arguments sake, there is this http://m.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-sexual-continuum/201112/how-often-do-men-and-women-think-about-sex

The actual study is really interesting, and had been repeated since. The notion that men think about sex more than women was a thought brought about to keep men's perception of women pure while making women feel like criminals for being interested in sex. It's outdated and was unfounded at the time. Kinsey did some great research, but he did very little to break the chains of sexual oppression towards women. The same chains you perpetuate by continuing the soar of what's turning out to be misinformation. Sweeping generalizations don't help anyone, period.
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Brandon

Quote from: h3llsb3lls on June 30, 2014, 03:23:30 PM
For arguments sake, there is this http://m.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-sexual-continuum/201112/how-often-do-men-and-women-think-about-sex

The actual study is really interesting, and had been repeated since. The notion that men think about sex more than women was a thought brought about to keep men's perception of women pure while making women feel like criminals for being interested in sex. It's outdated and was unfounded at the time. Kinsey did some great research, but he did very little to break the chains of sexual oppression towards women. The same chains you perpetuate by continuing the soar of what's turning out to be misinformation. Sweeping generalizations don't help anyone, period.


Did I ever say women don't think about sex, No! I did not all I said was men think about it more almost 24/7 because anything can trigger that thought especially considering men get turned on easier and quicker. There is a difference between how men and women think. I don't need a scientist to help back up that claim.
keep working hard and you can get anything you want.    -Aaliyah
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h3llsb3lls

That's ridiculous. Seriously. I don't care if you're male, female, agendered, intersex, or whatever,  you are doing EVERYONE a disservice by spreading claims based on nothing.
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LordKAT

This arguing is not productive nor related to the topic. Return to the topic or it gets locked.
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Brandon

Quote from: h3llsb3lls on June 30, 2014, 04:49:27 PM
That's ridiculous. Seriously. I don't care if you're male, female, agendered, intersex, or whatever,  you are doing EVERYONE a disservice by spreading claims based on nothing.


Why are you getting mad I'm not trying to argue with anyone, Science proves nothing though you must not have alot of guy friends to know. The only thing I said was Brain structure is most definately different. Yes I believe guys think about sex more or are more visual, You prolly never even read the example I gave you. But its okay I'm fine I'm not mad.
keep working hard and you can get anything you want.    -Aaliyah
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transmadness

Quote from: Ephemeral on June 28, 2014, 03:18:55 PM
My biggest issue with grafts is that you get a hella lot of scarring but most importantly, no erection. Maybe I'm a vain bastard but I care about it quite a fair deal more than I was initially willing to admit, because I was pretty settled on a graft but I have changed my opinion on this. I want natural erection. Also, yes, sensation is going to be odd since it will still be limited to the clit nerves so it won't quite feel like as if you were born with a penis since the strongest experience will be in the clit organ inside your body, not in the penis itself so to speak. That would likely be different with a lab grown penis since it would have all the neural sensitivity of any other penis including of course, natural erection.

Regardless I think most people unless they really need it would be better of to wait. Tech just isn't all that great though the future does look promising and while you can be lucky and get very good results and if you want to settle with current tech that's fine, but personally, I would wait. You can be a guy without a dick.  That's what all those war veterans are that this lab grown penis tech is being developed for.
I agree with what you've said here. I also agree that with the way technology has advanced over the years, we should certainly have access to more realistic looking phallus options. The biggest reason we don't, however, is because this is not something that's considered high in demand enough for scientists to research better methods. As much as I hate to admit it, from what I've researched, that basically just means not enough cis-men have gotten their junk blown off/disfigured in some other way for them to warrant researching it. Trans men and other folks who need a penis to feel more comfortable with themselves don't count so much on the larger scale of things and it sucks. Luckily my bottom dysphoria is mostly under control and a functioning penis isn't something I need to survive, but I really feel for those who don't have this luxury and wish I knew of a way that we could somehow prove to medical scientists and surgeons that this IS high in demand, even life or death for some people.


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patrick_1954

I've wondered why a good prosthetist and a surgeon could not develop a prosthetic that could be adhered the same way an ear or facial part was attached (ie using snaps surgically implanted in the body). It would be removable, and could be changed for flaccid or erect. I think it could be done, just wondered why it hasn't been tried.
Patrick
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Ephemeral

Quote from: patrick_1954 on July 01, 2014, 02:23:31 PM
I've wondered why a good prosthetist and a surgeon could not develop a prosthetic that could be adhered the same way an ear or facial part was attached (ie using snaps surgically implanted in the body). It would be removable, and could be changed for flaccid or erect. I think it could be done, just wondered why it hasn't been tried.
Patrick
There is tech for that but it's obviously a prosthetic device. What they do is that they implant screws on your hip bone or such, so you can attach the device onto your body, and then you get two versions, one limp and another erect and you can switch between the two. For those who want a simple surgery I suppose it  could work but the real downside is of course that it's clearly not organic nor won't it look realistic in such a sense though I suppose that the device itself if really well-made, could look realistic as such. Just not organically so.
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dalebert

I can't wait for cybernetics. I might even take an improved cyborg version of my organic junk. I wouldn't even care if it looked like normal junk if it actually worked better in all the ways that matter (that means interfacing with my nervous system, of course). Oh, and it would have to look really cool. Imagine a larger-than-average-but-not-impractically-huge shiny chrome wiener that retracted into the abdomen when not in use. Maybe it could even have some various colors of LEDs that blink and cycle in sync with cool music to set the mood. Maybe it would have various vibration settings like a massage chair. Try telling me you wouldn't want that!

patrick_1954

I've seen the lack of improvements with surgeries over the 40 years since I transitioned. There really haven't been any. I've yet to see any surgery that I'd be happy with the results. I'm talking about an option that wouldn't cost multiple thousands of dollars.
I'm also talking about options for those of us where surgeries aren't an option. I'm now disabled with multiple immune system issues. I'd really have to question the ethics of any doctor that would say I was a candidate for
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Ryan55

Quote from: dalebert on July 01, 2014, 03:35:58 PM
I can't wait for cybernetics. I might even take an improved cyborg version of my organic junk. I wouldn't even care if it looked like normal junk if it actually worked better in all the ways that matter (that means interfacing with my nervous system, of course). Oh, and it would have to look really cool. Imagine a larger-than-average-but-not-impractically-huge shiny chrome wiener that retracted into the abdomen when not in use. Maybe it could even have some various colors of LEDs that blink and cycle in sync with cool music to set the mood. Maybe it would have various vibration settings like a massage chair. Try telling me you wouldn't want that!

lmao this made my day


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