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Gender Identity Executive Order!

Started by JayDawg, June 30, 2014, 08:10:07 PM

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janetcgtv

All I can say it least it's a start in the right direction.
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awilliams1701

Exactly and this could help people that aren't in government jobs but their companies do government work. This could end up spreading over time. My question is when is he actually going to sign it.

Quote from: janetcgtv on July 07, 2014, 02:05:48 PM
All I can say it least it's a start in the right direction.
Ashley
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VeronicaLynn

Unfortunately, this country has become so polarized that it desperately needs a new moderate party to emerge, even if that might slow some LGBT friendly policies, but I'm not holding my breath on that one. Despite being for those policies, I hate that one issue voters blindly have to accept whatever the high tax, overspending Democrats put out there. Yet no one else seems to say this, it's instead go for team blue or team red, and no purple third parties ever are even suggested. If a third party is ever suggested, it's one even more far from center than the red and blue teams. Of course, if a seriously socially moderate, fiscally moderate party would emerge, team red would die, and team blue might lose a few elections...
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Magnus

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/obama-hosts-annual-lgbt-pride-month-celebration-24372944

"At least two other measures already prevent the federal government from firing people for being transgender, so Obama's announcement is largely symbolic. Still, advocates hailed the move as a powerful act of recognition for transgender Americans by the first American president to even utter the word "transgender" in a speech."

I'm not holding my breath for any public sector injunctions against employers who backpedal on their own Equal Opportunity Statements (which are equally as unless as this Executive Order) and discrimination via non-hire anyway.

As for the Fortune 500 comment, that's not true. They claim they don't, but in the end that is all it is: a claim. It is not a legally-binding document. It, also, is a publicity stunt... a cheap pacification. I know first-hand that they do, in fact, discriminate against us, and United Parcel Service in particular. They know and I know, that they failed to actually (not just seasonally) hire me no less than on several different occasions (and this after I had been guaranteed by upper-management a permanent part time position after my first peak with an A-rehire) didn't hire me first because they thought I was gay (my driver told me that point-blank, that is what they had said to him)... and now it's because they know I am transgender. And they also know that there is not a God damned thing that I can actually do, legally or otherwise, about it. They also now have a precedent set to that very effect via Hunter v. United Parcel Service, Inc; it's as good as a get-out-of-jail-free card for them. I don't think, but I know, Hunter was telling the truth because they did it to me also, for SEVEN YEARS. Two of those seven years, they refused to hire me at-all (they only hired me when they were short on applicants, is what happened).

To decode this for you, according to UPS (and a great many other corporations for that matter), we shouldn't even retain the right to secure gainful employment; to live. How do you like that? That is exactly what they're saying; what their actions are declaring. I gave them absolutely no reason, no grounds whatsoever, for their decision of non-permanent hire, OTHER THAN the fact that I am trans. Apparently, that sole factor alone, is enough reason for them.

They're the only business in this area that is actually hiring: just NOT for LGBT.
It's the same story in much of the world, too. Nothing has really changed.


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awilliams1701

I couldn't agree more. I saw myself inbetween the two parties until the tea ruined everything. Now I'm only Democrat because its the only remaining option. I've heard of a number of republicans switching to democrat just because they felt like thier party left them. My guess is these are the people I would prefer to vote for. However I would still have to evaluate them, but if you're open minded enough to switch, you're probably open minded enough to be decent in the first place.

Quote from: VeronicaLynn on July 07, 2014, 10:36:03 PM
Unfortunately, this country has become so polarized that it desperately needs a new moderate party to emerge, even if that might slow some LGBT friendly policies, but I'm not holding my breath on that one. Despite being for those policies, I hate that one issue voters blindly have to accept whatever the high tax, overspending Democrats put out there. Yet no one else seems to say this, it's instead go for team blue or team red, and no purple third parties ever are even suggested. If a third party is ever suggested, it's one even more far from center than the red and blue teams. Of course, if a seriously socially moderate, fiscally moderate party would emerge, team red would die, and team blue might lose a few elections...
Ashley
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But you have no life.
Ha. Even that won't stop me.

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