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GRS & BA surgery with Chett August 2014

Started by Donna Elvira, July 19, 2014, 05:25:22 AM

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Caroline1

Hi my name is Jaime I'm tentatively booked for SRS in December 14 with Doctor Chettawut I d really like to hear some recent comments about how girls feel about their experience and results. So far there seems to be a negative comment for every good one with regard to Doctor Chettawut in particular.  I'm about to send my deposit. I was declined by Dr Suporn earlier this year due to a pre-existing medical condition even with a detailed letter of support from my specialist. Both Dr Chettawut, PAI  and Dr Sanguan have said yes after reviewing my medical records. I'm not keen on the two stage procedure offered by Dr Sanguan as having two procedures may add to the risks. I would like any info that might help me out. I would also like to hear from anyone who is also going for SRS with Dr Chettawut or Sanguan in the first week in December.
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blackponyx

Hi Jaime, good to hear from you. My SRS is scheduled 1 day after you! I'm planning to stay only until the 1st week of January at the cottages.
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Donna Elvira

Quote from: Caroline1 on September 13, 2014, 05:56:09 AM
Hi my name is Jaime I'm tentatively booked for SRS in December 14 with Doctor Chettawut I d really like to hear some recent comments about how girls feel about their experience and results. So far there seems to be a negative comment for every good one with regard to Doctor Chettawut in particular.  I'm about to send my deposit. I was declined by Dr Suporn earlier this year due to a pre-existing medical condition even with a detailed letter of support from my specialist. Both Dr Chettawut, PAI  and Dr Sanguan have said yes after reviewing my medical records. I'm not keen on the two stage procedure offered by Dr Sanguan as having two procedures may add to the risks. I would like any info that might help me out. I would also like to hear from anyone who is also going for SRS with Dr Chettawut or Sanguan in the first week in December.

Hi Jaime,
Just over the last few months, four of us have left quite extensive accounts of our experience with Chett, most recently Monkeymel and myself. I suggest you read through both of our threads on the subject and then come back with specific questions. BTW, where did you see all the negative comments? I certainly didn't see them here.
Hugs
Donna
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SarahJ

Happy belated birthday Donna!  :D Mentioning that your journey began during the fall of 2008 and you've just celebrated your rebirth near your 57th birthday is almost the same as my story.  I'm probably a year behind in my journey as I'm nearing the end of my one year RLE and only just beginning to prepare for my surgical journey.  I struggled mightily with the concept of being trans and accepting myself the first few years, even though I would have begun my journey 35 years ago if society was in the same place it is today. ???

Congratulations and best wishes - Sarah
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Donna Elvira

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Quote from: SarahJ on September 13, 2014, 10:37:14 PM
Happy belated birthday Donna!  :D Mentioning that your journey began during the fall of 2008 and you've just celebrated your rebirth near your 57th birthday is almost the same as my story.  I'm probably a year behind in my journey as I'm nearing the end of my one year RLE and only just beginning to prepare for my surgical journey.  I struggled mightily with the concept of being trans and accepting myself the first few years, even though I would have begun my journey 35 years ago if society was in the same place it is today. ???

Congratulations and best wishes - Sarah

Hi Sarah.
Thanks for your message. If you're in good health, the physical part of transitioning is no more difficult than for the younger girls, maybe even easier as I suspect that we older ladies are often a bit tougher mentally having already digested plenty of the knocks that life tends to throw at people..  :)
If you have any specific questions regarding the surgical aspects of a late transiton, feel free to send me a PM. As you will have seen from my signature lines, I have done everything except voice surgery which I finally don't intend to do, too much expense and hassle after all that I have already done and I'll see how far I can get with voice therapy before seriously considering it. 
Hugs
Donna
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JLT1

Hi Donna!!!

Congratulations on surgery and a belated Happy Birthday.  I'm so very happy for you. 

You encourage me.

Hugs, 

Jen
To move forward is to leave behind that which has become dear. It is a call into the wild, into becoming someone currently unknown to us. For most, it is a call too frightening and too challenging to heed. For some, it is a call to be more than we were capable of being, both now and in the future.
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Miranda Catherine

Happy Birthday, Donna, and congratulations. I forgot to say either in my PM, and I'm very sorry for that, too. Now I remember, we've spoken in a few PM's in 2013. Your newest avatar threw me. I want to get the surgery sooo much, I simply have a hard time waiting anymore, although I will. Anyhoo, I'm really happy for you, girl!!! God bless you, Donna. Hugs, Mira
These three years have been the best of my entire life
ones I've been able to live without lying
and the only time I've had since the age of twelve
I haven't constantly thought about dying



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Donna Elvira

Close to 10 wks post-op, it's probably worth doing a quick update on how things are going, all the more so as I got back to one of my favorite activities this morning, roller blading.

The scenario for this? We have just gone to winter time which meant an extra hour of sleep last night, wake-up to yet another beautiful sunny autumn day with temperature at about 15°C (~ 60°F) when I finally got out of the house, a fantastic smooth stretch of track going through a forest on fire with autumn colour... Impossible not to feel good and to crown it all, 40-45 mins of fairly dynamic roller-blading without the slighest hint of any problem. On the contrary, an experience of pure joy between the beauty of the environment and the pleasure of gliding smoothly from one leg to another  with just the low humming of my wheels to remind me that I wasn't dancing on air!

As it happens, that sort of sums up my whole post-op experience which has remained totally problem free. I still haven't been near a doctor since getting home and am now dilating comfortably with the Soul Souce N°3 and expect to move up to N° 4 at the 12 wks mark.

The only significant issue I had, too much loose skin in one of the labia majora, also seems to be getting better . Dr Chett suggested I apply Estrogen gel to this area once or twice a day as, according to some of his previous patient  it helped. I started doing it about 4 weeks ago and initially the loose skin retracted just after the application but tended to loosen up again shortly afterwards. However, as the weeks have gone by, I have definitely seen an improvement which means I may even be able to avoid the revision I initially feared would be necessary. 

However, should a revision finally be  required to get the type of aesthetic result I want, it has already been agreed to in principle, the only cost to me being flight and accomodation in Thailand. We will revisit the subject at the 6 month mark when the final outcome of the surgery will be more obvious.

Overall, I guess I could say that apart from the time required for dilating, from every point of view, I am very much back to my pre-surgery state, feeling really good physically and mentally and well able to handle a full day.
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blackponyx

Hi Donna

It seems to me loose/hanging skin seems to be a common feedback by Chet girls. I was wondering if you told him exactly what you wanted or left it to his judgement?

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Donna Elvira

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Quote from: blackponyx on October 26, 2014, 10:17:52 PM
Hi Donna

It seems to me loose/hanging skin seems to be a common feedback by Chet girls. I was wondering if you told him exactly what you wanted or left it to his judgement?

Hi there.
I hadn't anticipated on this being an issue at all so it wasn't discussed during the pre-op consultation. When I finally saw the outcome, I raised the issue with Dr Chettawut and here is the answer he gave me:

The excess skin is actually the area which your right scrotal skin was thick with a lot of wrinkle and cannot be stretched as the same as the left one due to its poor elasticity. This part of skin cannot be used for skin graft because it located at the central area which carry blood supply to the bottom of labia.
Try to think carefully, what happen if I lack of knowledge and cut this skin and then your total labia become necrosis.


That seems reasonable to me and given how good a job he did otherwise, I find it hard to believe he would have deliberately left excess skin that could have been eliminated from the outset.

He didn't go so far as to call me a "thick skinned old cow" but I guess that was at least part of the reality he had to deal with.   :) 

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blackponyx

This does make sense and I wonder if it's a common problem for all surgeons who use a similar technique? I always thought the scrotal skin was used inside and the exterior was aesthetically designed by the penile skin [hence the whole hype about how the penile skin inversion is no longer favoured, so more materials are left to design and create the labia].

Regardless, did he say if this can be corrected in future?

While my top priority is depth and sensation, I do value the aesthetics too. Specifically I would like something compact without hanging/loose skin.

Thank you for your reply. :)
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Donna Elvira

Quote from: blackponyx on October 28, 2014, 11:42:06 PM
This does make sense and I wonder if it's a common problem for all surgeons who use a similar technique? I always thought the scrotal skin was used inside and the exterior was aesthetically designed by the penile skin [hence the whole hype about how the penile skin inversion is no longer favoured, so more materials are left to design and create the labia].

Regardless, did he say if this can be corrected in future?

While my top priority is depth and sensation, I do value the aesthetics too. Specifically I would like something compact without hanging/loose skin.

Thank you for your reply. :)

Because of both the quality and the quantity of the scrotal tissue that was available, a skin graft (taken from the adjoining thigh region) was required for my surgery and I ended out with ~6.5" of depth, a result that in my case would have been impossible with the penile inversion technique. Otherwise, I believe everything was done as described on Chett's site, the penile tissue mostly being used for the labia.

Regarding future correction of loose tissue, yes, it was agreed to in principle and, if required it would be fully free of charge. However Chett asked that we wait at least 6 months for things to settle before considering any revision.

It's probably also worth mentioning that since getting home I have sent just two mails to Chett with questions about my recovery and in both cases I have received satisfactory answers. Given all of this, I remain very happy with my choice.


Quote from: Hanazono on October 29, 2014, 06:36:06 AM
that's so awesome. I only hope I can experience this too. except I'd have to relearn how to rollerblade

Seriously, you could do a lot worse! Contrary to running, roller blading doesn't create any downward pressure on your new parts and once the incisions are healed, it's as good a way as you will find to start doing serious exercise again.  I'm off again this afternoon!
I think I read somewhere that you are scheduled with Chett in January. If so, I wish you as happy an experience as I had. From what I gather, at least you won't have too far to travel, about 1422kms?    :)   
Hugs
Donna
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Donna Elvira

Quote from: Hanazono on October 29, 2014, 04:27:10 PM
you're a very perceptive lady, Donna!

You provided so many clues in your different posts (including your excellent English) that even Watson could have worked that one out!  :)
As a person who has been able to quickly learn the basics of quite a few languages, including Japanese and Bahasa, I also found Thai very, very difficult. However, since it's a tonal language with a similar structure to Mandarin, I would have thought that apart from the squiggles, it would be a lot easier for a Chinese speaker to pick up Thai than for a person brought up on western languages.
Anyway, wishing you all the best!
Donna 
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Donna Elvira

On his website, Dr Chettawut makes the following claims:

Dr.Chettawut's "Non penile inversion" SRS techniques provide the best and most natural sensation to all areas which are innervated by the branches of the pudendal nerve.
Because of Dr.Chettawut's meticulous surgical work on preservation of all sensory nerves, all patients achieve special female erotic sensations as well as being able to naturally experience orgasm (climax).
The patients can expected to achieve erotic sensation from the genital structures supplied by specific sensory nerve which are clitoris, clitoral hood, clitoral frenulum, and most part of vulva vestibule...


Eh bah, as the kids say over here, today I can confirm that all of that is true!  I have no intention of going into the "gory" details in such a public setting but I have just had one of the best such experiences in my little existance.  As all you Americans say, Yeah!   :-)
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Julia-Madrid

Quote from: Donna E on November 05, 2014, 03:09:56 PM
On his website, Dr Chettawut makes the following claims:

Eh bah, as the kids say over here, today I can confirm that all of that is true!  I have no intention of going into the "gory" details in such a public setting but I have just had one of the best such experiences in my little existance.  As all you Americans say, Yeah!   :-)

Where do I sign up ???

Oh, silly me, I already have!  9 months and counting...

xxx
A/J
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Shantel

Quote from: Donna E on November 05, 2014, 03:09:56 PM

Eh bah, as the kids say over here, today I can confirm that all of that is true!  I have no intention of going into the "gory" details in such a public setting but I have just had one of the best such experiences in my little existance.  As all you Americans say, Yeah!   :-)

Glad it's working for you Donna, excellent report concerning Dr. Chett's capabilities and sensitivity to a woman's needs.
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Danniella

Quote from: Donna E on November 05, 2014, 03:09:56 PM
On his website, Dr Chettawut makes the following claims:

Dr.Chettawut's "Non penile inversion" SRS techniques provide the best and most natural sensation to all areas which are innervated by the branches of the pudendal nerve.
Because of Dr.Chettawut's meticulous surgical work on preservation of all sensory nerves, all patients achieve special female erotic sensations as well as being able to naturally experience orgasm (climax).
The patients can expected to achieve erotic sensation from the genital structures supplied by specific sensory nerve which are clitoris, clitoral hood, clitoral frenulum, and most part of vulva vestibule...


Eh bah, as the kids say over here, today I can confirm that all of that is true!  I have no intention of going into the "gory" details in such a public setting but I have just had one of the best such experiences in my little existance.  As all you Americans say, Yeah!   :-)

This is one of the primary reasons why I am going with Dr Chett...time cannot move fast enough!
You say "Using humor as a defence mechanism" like it's a BAD thing!



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Donna Elvira

EPILOGUE

Today, after a 14 month wait since I started the procedure,  I received the following document:



which all you fluent French speakers will instantly recognize as the last page of my official Civil Identity Change  :)  Concretely, this will shortly translate into a modification of my first names and the gender markers on both my birth certificate and my mariage licence allowing me to change all my other official documents too .

I guess that's it, for better and for worse and until death does us part, my transition is complete.  As it happens, I'll be spending the evening with a writer's group I am part of here in Strasbourg and since they have been getting to know my story through the first 3 chapters of a book I'm writing, I guess  I couldn't be with a better group for such an occasion.

Hugs and best wishes to all  you fellow travellers. Transition is quite a journey but happily life continues afterwards, all the more so when it doesn't become an end in itself!

Donna

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jojo702

Congratulations, Donna! It must be such a relief! Very happy for you! :)
15 years on HRT and going, started at age 16.

SRS+BA done in Bangkok, Thailand by the hands of Dr Chettawut Tulayaphanich and his team on November 1, 2014.
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