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Started by Alexi, July 24, 2014, 02:38:42 PM

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Satinjoy

Check in with us Alexi, just let us know you are around.

Makes us feel needed...

:)
Morpheus: This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the red pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the little blue pills - you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes

Sh'e took the little blue ones.
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ativan

There isn't very much anyone can do if you just comment that you have no support, but don't give a clue as to just what.
You comment that you're worthless... a comparison or really any kind of clue as to how worthless, worthless for??...
Just saying you're shaking and in tears leaves nothing to go on.
Several people have left you long comments of support and advice, but the advice is a crap-shoot, really don't have much to go on as to whether it's even advice you're looking for...
If what you say is to be taken at face value, then a competent ER is the place to be.
The nearest Psyche Unit available, because when you can't say just what the problem is, it runs deeper than what the comments in return here are going to do for you.
You're up for a while and then crash again.
A sure sign to me that you need antidepressants to smooth out the ride.
That you can't articulate the real nature of the problem(s), then you need to talk to professionals who can and will work with you.
We can all give you a shoulder to cry on, is it going to help?
We don't even know that... Let alone what kind of advice might be helpful.
It's time, this has been multiple events over a relatively short period of time and things haven't changed.
You really should do everything it takes to find proper help.
In an ER setting, they don't have the time to figure it out for you, they probably have people stacking up that have the usual cuts and scrapes and such that they deal with the most.
They don't have time to play twenty questions to get to the right one that you might have an answer to.
It's kinda the same here, you leave out the important stuff, the body of the comments you make.
It's not clear at all what you are trying to say, if there is something more than the words you have commented with.
I see this pattern and the only thing I can think is that you need professional help, and you need to get it soon, like right away.
If it takes you five hours to get to a competent hospital that has psyche facilities, then do it.
It doesn't sound like things have gotten any better, and it's now been, like I said, multiple times that you have stated pretty much the same things, without an explanation that we can work with.
You really need to be more specific if you can, otherwise it looks like your just repeating the same thing over again.
You have to do this, nobody here can do it for you.
Don't even know where you are.
Can't recommend anyone for you to talk to, can't even see if there is someone from here close enough to find out if there is a place you might feel safe at.
You have a tendency to comment and then logout, coming back much later, and we have no idea what's going on when you do this.
You cry out and then leave before the community here can react.
Very few people are available for more than a couple hours at a time.
Half of the responses go unanswered until you log in again.
That leaves us really nothing to go on, as well.
These are all things I know all to well for myself and because I've worked and lived with a lot of people who share these same things.
It really has come down to getting proper help, look into antidepressants at the very least and to build a support system.
I have as well as most of the people here who know those symptoms well.
We've been through it and we do know what we are talking about.
Need better information to go on if you are expecting help from the community, it's just the way it is, you don't give us enough to work with.
You say you've tried your ER and they won't help or can't help?
They will help if you insist that you need it, instead of just giving vague symptoms and then say nothing more.
Most ER's are only really band-aide stations until you get to the place either in the hospital or at another place to be properly taken care of.
They aren't the problem solvers, they are the ones who take care of the emergency at hand and then move on to the next person in line.
Here there is a lot of support, but you don't really get into any details in your comments that we can work with.
It really does sound like your asking for support, but support in what way?
There are very little clues to go on, and sometimes you have even told us that the support isn't the kind you want or need... You need to be more specific, or there is likely very little anyone can do as far as true support and advice.

It's time. You need to pull out the stops and do this. It isn't going to get any better if you don't, it will likely get worse.
If it does, it will go to the extent that someone around you will notice and you will be committed by the courts, not something you really want to do.
Once in the system that way, it is next to impossible to get back out, not without much more effort than it takes to get the help you need right now.
Not in a few days, right now.
I understand how futile it all feels, it is another symptom of things that you need to take care of, now.
The truth is, that there are really simple solutions to what seems to be the problem, but you have to act to take care of them.
If you don't, they are going to get worse and what it takes is just going to get harder.
Get on the phone and find a place you need to get help, make the call.
You liked Trevor Project, call them, see what they can do and don't hold back like you've been doing.
It's time to do everything you can to get better now. Today, right now.
PM someone here if you need more help, but be prepared to talk about it, to answer the hard questions.
If you really need, there are people who you can talk to on the phone if that's what it takes.
It's now up to you to make the hard decision to get this done the right way and it sounds like you need to,.. now.
Ativan
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Alexi

Quote from: EchelonHunt on September 16, 2014, 12:10:50 PMI used to feel like I was a "fake" for not desiring complete binary transition but that's the thing - transition is different for everyone. There is no cookie-cutter mold you have to follow.
Somehow you've managed to explain something I couldn't, or I felt like I couldn't. I almost still can't.

I'm afraid that I'll not be able to transition enough for it to be enough. I know transition is different for every person, so everyone is able to do whatever they feel comfortable doing. I've felt jealous of other people who've transitioned or are transitioning, they always seem to look so much better and seem to do it so much better. It's a weird feeling, and not a feeling I like, but I can't help but want the same.

I've tired everyone I could ask for help from in person. They tell me that I'm their friend, but I don't feel that. I know it's most likely because I'm so depressed that I feel like they're really not, but I can't help but think that they're just being kind so as not to upset me. I don't deserve them. They've done so much for me, but I don't ever get better.

They've tired of me.
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Satinjoy

Take ativan advice please now, they are right, time to act dear.   Sj
Morpheus: This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the red pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the little blue pills - you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes

Sh'e took the little blue ones.
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Alexi

I can't do that. I'm too scared.
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ativan

You're too scared not to.
This isn't one that you're going to just toughen out.
That hasn't been working out at all for you, it would seem.
I'm too scared you're not going to do something to help yourself.
I tried, as well as many other people here have, to try and tough it out of depression like this.
It just doesn't work that way.
Those people who it seems like transition is so easy?
It wasn't for most of them, some needed to get help in ways that are simply necessary.
What you see for some who transition as looking really good?
They do because they are happy, and they weren't always that way, it took help to get them to where they are.
For some of us, it takes the kind of help I suggested to you.
Nobody here wants to see you suffer and that is exactly what we are hearing from you, suffering and anguish at life.
It doesn't have to be that way. It is scary, I can see your point, it has scared the crap out of me each time I had to do it.
It took more than a few times for my bullheadedness to really get with the program and to do it right.
I've been good for over five years now. Where I was before I can only describe as hell.
I didn't even know it until I was safely out of it.
It's hard to see yourself right now and what you are seeing isn't you, it's the depression that you're seeing, not you.
You can do this, it will stop when you do this, nothing bad is going to happen and you know this is true.
Depression is playing one of it's cruelest tricks on you right now, making you too scared to stop it.
Ativan
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mrs izzy

Quote from: Alexi on September 16, 2014, 08:58:56 PM
I can't do that. I'm too scared.

You know we all have been where you are.

We have reached out for help when we lost the answers.

Are we bad persons for asking for the help we need when we need it.

We all care because we understand.

We offer help for hope.

Hope for life

Life for happiness.

I hold out my hand to give our support.

Hugs
Izzy
Mrs. Izzy
Trans lifeline US 877-565-8860 CAD 877-330-6366 http://www.translifeline.org/
"Those who matter will never judge, this is my given path to walk in life and you have no right to judge"

I used to be grounded but now I can fly.
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EchelonHunt

Quote from: Alexi on September 16, 2014, 05:27:19 PM
Somehow you've managed to explain something I couldn't, or I felt like I couldn't. I almost still can't.

I'm afraid that I'll not be able to transition enough for it to be enough. I know transition is different for every person, so everyone is able to do whatever they feel comfortable doing. I've felt jealous of other people who've transitioned or are transitioning, they always seem to look so much better and seem to do it so much better. It's a weird feeling, and not a feeling I like, but I can't help but want the same.

I've tired everyone I could ask for help from in person. They tell me that I'm their friend, but I don't feel that. I know it's most likely because I'm so depressed that I feel like they're really not, but I can't help but think that they're just being kind so as not to upset me. I don't deserve them. They've done so much for me, but I don't ever get better.

They've tired of me.

Transitioning won't be enough because it seems like your issues are rooted far deeper than your gender identity. It's easy to think of transitioning as being a magical solution to your problems - except it's not like that at all. The people who've transitioned or transitioning, like anybody else, have struggled through horrible times but have pushed through because they have a support network they can fall back onto - something you need to have before transitioning even becomes an option.

Friends can not be replacements for a professional therapist. A friend can support you and be there for you but they cannot drag you out of the pit you are stuck in, not in a way a therapist is qualified to do. It's not that they are tired of you, it's that they are incapable of helping you.

Please listen to Ativan's advice and call The Trevor Project or the E.R. PLease reach out for help. You have nothing to fear except fear itself.
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Alexi

I might try get some sleep. I can use IRC if real-time chat might be easier.
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Taka

there's always people in the irc chat, even if the bot pretends they're sleeping.
i'll be on in a while, and try to stay for the rest of the day. get on when you can, i'm hoping to see you soon.
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Alexi

I think I've found someone I can ask, but it'll not be until later. I'll also need to think about the things I'd want to say so I don't confuse myself once I actually begin talking! It's hard to think of it in any order but I'll do the best I can.
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mrs izzy

Quote from: Alexi on September 17, 2014, 05:16:24 AM
I think I've found someone I can ask, but it'll not be until later. I'll also need to think about the things I'd want to say so I don't confuse myself once I actually begin talking! It's hard to think of it in any order but I'll do the best I can.

I have always made notes to use when I was having trouble keeping thing in order due to stresses.
Mrs. Izzy
Trans lifeline US 877-565-8860 CAD 877-330-6366 http://www.translifeline.org/
"Those who matter will never judge, this is my given path to walk in life and you have no right to judge"

I used to be grounded but now I can fly.
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Satinjoy

The key, my dear, is to just do it.  Let go, don't even think, just do it.  Automatic mode.  It is how I survived.  I am in it right now, automatic mode.

There will be rejoicing on this forum if you do this.

Just make the call, get the help.  It is time.

SJ

Morpheus: This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the red pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the little blue pills - you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes

Sh'e took the little blue ones.
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Alexi

Quote from: mrs izzy on September 17, 2014, 08:09:08 AM
I have always made notes to use when I was having trouble keeping thing in order due to stresses.
That's a really good idea. I'll write prompts just in case I forget anything.
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Alexi

How long can it take before a specialist is able to make a diagnosis of gender dysphoria or some other diagnosis?
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ativan

The more honest and upfront with them you can be, the better all of it will go.
Even if it hurts, let them know that and tell them anyways.
As noted in another thread, sometimes a trial of very low dose HRT gives almost immediate results.
Not for everyone, but a very effective way to see if your body chemistry matches the wiring of your brain.
If you're going to break down talking about things, with a therapist is a very good place to do just that.
Once you find that they are helping you by way of guidance, they will appear as they are, an allie for you in your quest for inner peace.
Ativan
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mrs izzy

What Ativan said

Just be honest with your true feelings and where you feel your life should move towards.

Hugs and will keep you in my thoughts.

Mrs. Izzy
Trans lifeline US 877-565-8860 CAD 877-330-6366 http://www.translifeline.org/
"Those who matter will never judge, this is my given path to walk in life and you have no right to judge"

I used to be grounded but now I can fly.
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Alexi

I haven't posted but I didn't want anybody to think I wasn't grateful for the responses and help. I'm not sure I'm much further but I've come to a realisation that I am transgender. The most frightening thing is finding the courage to come out; I still can't do that. I'm scared I never will.
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Satinjoy

There are many I have not come out to dear.  The first step is to come out to yourself....

The others can wait.  Some can wait forever....

Nice to hear from you I was concerned.

Blessings

Satinjoy
Morpheus: This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the red pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the little blue pills - you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes

Sh'e took the little blue ones.
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Shantel

Sometimes I recall how my little baby first stood up and tried his first few steps and staggered forward and fell bonking his little head really hard on the coffee table, raising a huge bump and crying so hard that he lost his breath that I worried that he was going to die. I think about how he could have become discouraged and just lie there and continue to roll across the carpet whenever he wanted to go somewhere, but he would have been stilted and never would have developed beyond that point and would have been a sad and pathetic little human being.

But when he got his breath back and recovered sufficiently he climbed back up on his feet, giggling and chortling at his success he learned to walk and eventually run. It always starts with little baby steps and occasionally we do a face plant, but we get right back up and prevail. You can do it too!
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