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Started by Johnny Tristan, April 24, 2014, 06:11:57 PM

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Johnny Tristan

Both of my parents found out that I'm transitioning (seriously now) and my mother is disowning me. She never wants to see, nor speak to me again. They both outright refuse to call me by my preferred name and pronouns. My father believes that the Devil is making me dysphoric and is out to ruin my life. He threatened my girlfriend and her family, by saying that if I die from the hormones or on the operating table, that he'll sue them for encouraging me (her family has been nothing but unsupportive with my gender identity as well). Both of my parents feel betrayed that they helped me get free medical insurance, because they didn't know that some (not all) of my reasoning for getting it so urgently was for my testosterone and top surgery that will happen sometime this fall.

I don't live with my parents and haven't for two years, but I'm heartbroken and distraught about this. I love my parents more than anything. I guess that it was all a lie that they loved me unconditionally. I have hope that someday they'll change their minds, but for the meantime, they don't want to see me for quite some time. I was looking forward to seeing them in September, but it looks like that's not going to happen. I already had a small family to begin with. This just outright sucks and hurts.

My father was on the phone with my girlfriend for two hours with the objective of persuading me to change my mind about transitioning. He was yelling at her and was frustrated every time she called me "John" or male pronouns. He said that he couldn't handle this and how we're ruining his life. That his dream of becoming a grandfather is never going to happen and that it's not fair. I want to be a father more than anything, but he refuses to believe that is possible. And he said outright that if I adopted, he wouldn't see those kids as his grandchildren and he wouldn't love them. He doesn't understand why I can't wait until I am 25 to transition and called us both naive/childish for taking initiative. I've been wanting to take estrogen blockers since I was twelve and I've fully researched testosterone and it's effects for seven years. I was fully prepared and he still says "do more research". I'm 19 years old. I feel jealous of everyone that was able to transition before me and especially younger than me.

I've been on testosterone for two weeks. I'm taking my 3rd shot tomorrow. I'm already on the road to becoming myself, but he refuses to believe that he has a son and not a daughter... even though I never in my life was feminine and always presented in a masculine manner. He's the most oblivious and selfish person. My mother though, breaks my heart the worst. My father told me that because I'm doing this, I must hate my mother and that's completely untrue. We're not as close as I am with my father, no, but I still love her with all my being. Apparently the rest of my family will lose all contact with me also. I'm the one who feels betrayed. I'm alone now, it's just my girlfriend and I.

What a life...

Sarah Louise

Well its unfortunate, there is nothing you can do right now to change their minds.

Its your life, live it your way, odds are eventually they will soften their resolve.
Nameless here for evermore!;  Merely this, and nothing more;
Tis the wind and nothing more!;  Quoth the Raven, "Nevermore!!"
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E-Brennan

I'm sorry you're having a rough time.  It amazes me that some parents still think it's acceptable to disown a child over this.  But that is always tempered by the surprise acceptances from people who I would never have thought would be understanding.

All you can do is give them time and hope that they come around.  In the meantime, just keep moving forward with your plans.

Hope it gets better from here on out.
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sad panda

That is just so sad. You don't deserve that at all from your parents, who should be there for you right now. I'm sorry, i know it's none of my business anyway but... seriously? You sound like you are being so strong about this but still, you definitely do not deserve that from your parents. I hope that they are just exaggerating right now and will come around... big hugs to you :(
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Ltl89

I am so sorry to hear this.  No child deserves to be treated this way by their parents.  I wish I had a way to comfort you, but I did want to say hang in there.

For what it's worth, I would like to share my experience, in hopes that maybe it can help.  I was almost disowned by my parents, but my mom sort of came around.  She told me that I was doing the devils work and said I was disgusting, a freak and a weirdo that was doing something unnatural.  And she told me that I wouldn't be able to stay at home anymore and even threatened to have me kidnapped on many occasions.  It got very bad.  My mom's like my best friend and I love her with my whole heart.  Her saying these things was like a bullet going into me.  The good news is that she was reacting emotionally and in pain, but she did adjust.  Things remain tough to this day, but we still live together in a loving yet dysfunctional home.  There are still fights and emotional outbreaks, but it has died down from the emotional hell that once existed. 

I can't say things will go this way with your family, but I just wanted to say it can get better.  The first reaction and the aftermath is often very emotional with little rationality.  The same was true with my friend and her mother.  They are very close as well and her mother went from being her biggest opponent to being someone who helped fianancially and emotionally support her daughter's surgery.  You never know where the future can take you.  I hope yours will allow reconciliation, and I'm sorry to hear this is they way they choose to react.  In any case, please think about the things you do have at this moment. You have a girlfriend that seems to love a care for you.  You aren't alone with her by your side.  It can't replace anything, but maybe her love can be a beacon in this time.  I know I found the support of my best friends and people on here helped during my mother's blow out.  Take comfort in your friends and those who love you.  It does help.

Again, I'm so sorry to read this and wish I had a better way of helping.  Just know that you don't deserve this.  And please don't give up hope.  You are just starting your new life and have a long way to go. 
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Kaydee

I am also sorry to hear this.  As a parent I have been through some tough times with my kids.  But I can't imagine anything they could do that would make me think of disowning them.

As ltol said, perhaps it is all emotion and with time it might get better.  Do not give up on them.  Perhaps if you leave a door open for their love they will someday walk through it.  Until then, be yourself.  Accept the love of your gf and others around you.  Don't blame yourself for what has happened.
Aimee





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Bombadil

It's not fair and it hurts. Time may change how they feel and act but I know that doesn't help.

My dad basically disowned me, not over being trans, and my brother and his family and I don't speak. It's a lonely feeling. I'm glad you have your girlfriend and her family






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Androgynous_Machine

I cried.  :'(

But as others have said, you have to live your life the way you need to, either they accept it or they won't, but it is you that has to live with yourself, not them.

They will eventually capitulate to your lifestyle, the initial shock gets some people.

-AM
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partnergirl

Try to hang in there like everyone else had said. Try to focus on the good things....it sounds like your girlfriend is very supportive and that's great. Over the coming months and maybe years, show your parents how happy you are...how the changes are only having a positive impact. They may start to come round as many of their concerns may be stemming from worry for their child.  Once they see you're happy they may begin to reconsider things slightly. Obviously there are never guarantees and it sounds like they're being really unreasonable right now.

Be prepared to be patient with them....even if their behaviour doesn't warrant such patience. Let them know you don't want this to break your family and with time, I really hope things will change for you.

Stay strong :)
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Teela Renee

Hope things get better for you, my mother speaks to me sometimes, But for the most part my family disowned me also.
RedNeck girls have all the fun 8)
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f_Anna_tastic

Stories like this break my heart.  I've been very lucky to have supportive parents and can only imagine how you feel.

John, I wish you all the love in the world xx
"What do you fear, lady?" he asked.
"A cage," she said. "To stay behind bars until use and old age accept them, and all chance of doing great deeds is gone beyond recall or desire."
                                                                                     ― The Return of the King
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JamesG

Wow, that sucks.  Yeah I hope that they will mellow out and that this is just hard-ball guilt trip tactics.

What is odd to me is that they apparently accepted (I am assuming) that you were "homosexual" (from their perspective)  but are going koo-koo over you transitioning? 
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Johnny Tristan

Thank you for all the replies, everybody. I really appreciate it and I'm sorry for making anyone cry. :embarrassed: It helps me a lot to know that there's people who either sympathise or support me in what I'm going through. I just finished taking my third testosterone shot and I couldn't help but feel a little guilty and scared that by doing this, I'm detaching myself from the people who raised me and love me. I have hope in my parents that regardless of my transition that they'll come around someday.

Yesterday was terrifying, because my dad starting chatting with me unexpectedly on FB and started saying that he felt helpless. He was saying how he would miss my "natural" voice and how he was crying. He said that if he lived near me, he would grab me and strap me to a chair and scream at me that he loves me even though I don't love myself. I understand how he feels. It breaks my heart, but he just doesn't get it.

Then today, my dad called me for an hour and talked about everything OTHER than the transition. I would say that was good, but now I think they are in denial. He passed the phone to my mother, who was irritated and quick to get off, so she's firm in wanting to lose touch with me. My dad, on the other hand, is trying hard to stay close to me... but he's also in denial about the whole situation.

Quote from: JamesG on April 25, 2014, 04:32:16 PM
Wow, that sucks.  Yeah I hope that they will mellow out and that this is just hard-ball guilt trip tactics.

What is odd to me is that they apparently accepted (I am assuming) that you were "homosexual" (from their perspective)  but are going koo-koo over you transitioning? 


They weren't accepting. My girlfriend and I were in a long distance relationship for three years before finally moving in together last August. We kept our relationship a secret for one year, but they found our personal blogs on Tumblr and immediately caused hell about the whole situation. For half a year, they did everything in their power to keep me away from her and verbally abused me (without knowing that it).

All my life, I was open with my gender dysphoria and told them that I wanted to transition, but they never took it seriously until now- since I actually have the hormones. I didn't ever identify or came out as "homosexual" and told them upfront that I was heterosexual, but they said that I was a lesbian who was being tricked by the Devil and I would waste my life away. I became depressed, was forcefully dropped out of school on my last year, and was sent to live with my grandmother for a year who was even more strict and abusive than my parents.

Eventually, she kicked me out of her house as well and I lived with my very supportive step-grandmother and grandfather for two months until getting the balls to fly out to my girlfriend and live with her. Her parents hated our relationship and tried to keep us apart too. They were very manipulative and abusive to the both of us, but they ended up becoming better and helping us move into our own apartment. They don't know about my transition yet and probably won't know until it becomes apparent. The reason for that being is that they're financially supporting us and they have the power to drop us like flies if they know that I'm on testosterone.

My parents did get better during that time. They ended up coming down to see our apartment and to meet my girlfriend for the first time. They really loved her and were friendly with her. My parents even admitted that she was perfect for me, but now all of that is going down the drain again with the transition, because it's a permanent change. They still had hope that I'd be a woman, who would marry a man, become pregnant, and give them grandchildren in the next few years. Not this lifestyle. It's because I'm their only child...

Knowing that they've come around once though... they might come around again. I'm hoping so. :(

JamesG

Well that makes... er, sense.  ::)

As both someone with GID and as a parent I truly can't comprehend their reaction, they might as well be aliens. I can understand not liking the idea, but pushing you away is dumb.

The silver lining here, such as it is, is that you truly are your own man now.  You are free to do what you feel is right for yourself.
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Ltl89

Quote from: Sir John Tristan on April 25, 2014, 05:20:52 PM
Thank you for all the replies, everybody. I really appreciate it and I'm sorry for making anyone cry. :embarrassed: It helps me a lot to know that there's people who either sympathise or support me in what I'm going through. I just finished taking my third testosterone shot and I couldn't help but feel a little guilty and scared that by doing this, I'm detaching myself from the people who raised me and love me. I have hope in my parents that regardless of my transition that they'll come around someday.

Yesterday was terrifying, because my dad starting chatting with me unexpectedly on FB and started saying that he felt helpless. He was saying how he would miss my "natural" voice and how he was crying. He said that if he lived near me, he would grab me and strap me to a chair and scream at me that he loves me even though I don't love myself. I understand how he feels. It breaks my heart, but he just doesn't get it.

Then today, my dad called me for an hour and talked about everything OTHER than the transition. I would say that was good, but now I think they are in denial. He passed the phone to my mother, who was irritated and quick to get off, so she's firm in wanting to lose touch with me. My dad, on the other hand, is trying hard to stay close to me... but he's also in denial about the whole situation.

They weren't accepting. My girlfriend and I were in a long distance relationship for three years before finally moving in together last August. We kept our relationship a secret for one year, but they found our personal blogs on Tumblr and immediately caused hell about the whole situation. For half a year, they did everything in their power to keep me away from her and verbally abused me (without knowing that it).

All my life, I was open with my gender dysphoria and told them that I wanted to transition, but they never took it seriously until now- since I actually have the hormones. I didn't ever identify or came out as "homosexual" and told them upfront that I was heterosexual, but they said that I was a lesbian who was being tricked by the Devil and I would waste my life away. I became depressed, was forcefully dropped out of school on my last year, and was sent to live with my grandmother for a year who was even more strict and abusive than my parents.

Eventually, she kicked me out of her house as well and I lived with my very supportive step-grandmother and grandfather for two months until getting the balls to fly out to my girlfriend and live with her. Her parents hated our relationship and tried to keep us apart too. They were very manipulative and abusive to the both of us, but they ended up becoming better and helping us move into our own apartment. They don't know about my transition yet and probably won't know until it becomes apparent. The reason for that being is that they're financially supporting us and they have the power to drop us like flies if they know that I'm on testosterone.

My parents did get better during that time. They ended up coming down to see our apartment and to meet my girlfriend for the first time. They really loved her and were friendly with her. My parents even admitted that she was perfect for me, but now all of that is going down the drain again with the transition, because it's a permanent change. They still had hope that I'd be a woman, who would marry a man, become pregnant, and give them grandchildren in the next few years. Not this lifestyle. It's because I'm their only child...

Knowing that they've come around once though... they might come around again. I'm hoping so. :(

The fact that your father is maintaining communication with you is a good sign.  That means he wants to have you in your life despite his own issues.  To be honest, that's a good sign.  Maybe not for acceptance of the situation, but maybe acceptance of their child.  I really hope it goes well for you.  Families shouldn't be torn apart over something so petty and minuscule. 
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Moimoinen

I'm so sorry this has happened to you. :(


I wonder, could it be that they were just incredibly shocked and maybe didn't know what to do, and said the first things that came to their heads? After all, it's a big change for everyone.

Perhaps in time, although it will take a long, long time, they will eventually come around to accepting you for who you really are. Fortunately, you still have your girlfriend as support! But if your family never accept you, then it's truly a shame, and you shouldn't ever feel guilty for who you really are.

Don't change for family, it's your life, change for yourself.  :icon_rockon:


~Elliott


"You all know, don't you, that if people are frightened very often, they sometimes become invisible."
"Fear is a terrible thing,' Moominpappa thought. 'It can come suddenly and take hold of everything, and who will protect all the little creatures?"



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cruise4burgers

Don't feel guilty, you don't owe it to anyone to live a lie to save them from having to grow.
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awilliams1701

Two of my sisters are having a hard time with it. I believe one is ultimately going to be ok and she's still talking to me. The other wants to shelter her kids from me even though they don't live with her anymore. If she can't accept me for who I am, then I can't accept her either. I really don't want to lose my sister, bit its her choice. The worst part is I used to be closest with her. I hoped it doesn't come to cutting ties, but if it does I hope that she'll eventually come around and change her mind.

ironically my neighbors haven't had a problem with it with maybe one or two exceptions. I've been very happy about the way I've been treated so far.
Ashley
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janetcgtv

I'm sorry about your family situation, as family is very important to all.
Just keep the door open as they may change their minds. Give them time to think about this. If they still don't you have to live your own life not them. NO one deserves any abuse from another. So don't put up with it.

Eventually the door will open and welcome them back in your life. Leave bygones behind and look forward to their company.

Remember if they don't it's their LOSS.
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Katherine

Hi Johnny, sorry to hear you're having this issue with your parents.  I know some do go through this.  I'm fortunate enough to have a supportive family.  I was a bit confused reading your second post, as it was written a day after your first... ???
Always running away from myself...
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