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Little know SRS complication: Head explosion

Started by suzifrommd, July 28, 2014, 03:37:52 PM

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suzifrommd

I paid for my SRS out of pocket (Not covered by insurance. What else is new?). However I set up a "flexible spending account" for my work, so that a small part of the cost would not be subject to income taxes.

1. Shortly after surgery, I got email that the flex account people needed a "statement of medical necessity". My surgeon's office provided one quickly.

2. A few weeks later, the flex account people also asked for an itemized statement from the hospital.

3. So I called up the hospital. They said they weren't ready. Call again in a week.

4. So I called a week later. After a surprising amount of explaining what I needed, they agreed to send it.

5. I received the statement in the mail and sent a copy to the flex account people.

6. Got a message a few days ago from the flex account people. The statement is no good because it contains an estimate of insurance coverage. I need to submit a DIFFERENT statement that tells what I'm responsible for, or a refusal from my insurance company.

7. So I called the flex account people. Explained that the bill was not submitted to the insurance company, so there would be no refusal. I'm responsible for the entire bill. No good, they said. I needed to go back to the hospital and get another bill without estimated insurance coverage.

8. So I called the hospital. Sat on a queue for a while, after which I was "connected" to an operator who didn't answer. The phone rang and rang. Tried again, same result.

9. Called a couple hours later. Sat on the queue again, only to hear one ring and then get disconnected.

10. Finally reached an operator. She said she'd send another statement. I asked whether this would have the estimate. She said it's the only kind of statement they can send. I asked again, will it have the estimate. She said "just wait until you get it." I asked again, saying I didn't want to wait. I had already been sent an itemized statement that was no good. Unless I know whether this is any better, I'll be in the same boat I am now, a few weeks later. I couldn't explain this to her. Finally she said "wait" and put me on hold.

11. The operator's supervisor got on the line. Explained to me that there was no way they could produce a statement without the insurance estimates. Their computer kicks them out automatically, whether or not there is insurance coverage. (I figured this was the case). I asked what I could do, given that the flex account people won't accept it as is. She actually offered to call the the flex account people I'd been dealing with. She called and got a voice mail box.

So the whole thing is still unresolved.
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ErinWDK

Suzi,

Sorry to hear of your complications.  My work offered a flex account - with enough "catch 22" that I couldn't access my money.  Fortunately that was only $1,000 - it could have been worse, but I sort of didn't really trust it.

With the new tax increases to pay for the Afforable Care Act the procedure has been made more complex to extract your money (and not pay a bit of tax) to the point a lot of people will have your problem.  Welcome to the brave new World.

All I can say is HUGS!


Erin
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Jboggs

That so frustrating. But unfortunately that is how the insurance industry works, even if it's a flex spending account. You just need to keep jumping through there hoops. Don't get so discouraged to quit. That's what they want.
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JoanneB

Plan B - Submit it to insurance and get a statement from them showing what is your cost

At first it sounded as if the HSA people are nuts. But I can see people submitting a claim to the HSA and insurance and keeping the change. Also so LITTLE is allowed to be put on the HSA card compared to the past probably half the hospital costs fall under the new rules and the puney ammount you can sock away into the HSA  :'(
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EllieM


Sorry to hear about that Suzi. I hope this gets resolved soon.
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luna nyan

*headbutt against wall*

I love circular paperwork that goes nowhere...  It keeps so many people productively employed.

Hope it resolves soon. :/
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Zumbagirl

Why not just write off the expense at the end of the year on your taxes and put the money back in your pocket? That's what I did for my FFS and srs surgery and didn't have any problems with taxes.
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Jenna Marie

Is there any chance of getting them to *actually* submit it to the insurance? It'll be denied, but then you'll have the proof of denial. (My eye doctor's office insists on doing this even though I tell them every year that there's a 0% chance of it being covered, for example, so it's not a huge imposition to have them run the paperwork to submit it.)

My sympathies. The bureaucratic nightmare that can ensue when an FSA requirements meet a medical provider's policies, much less insurance, is not fun.
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suzifrommd

Quote from: JoanneB on July 28, 2014, 06:18:39 PM
Plan B - Submit it to insurance and get a statement from them showing what is your cost
Quote from: Jenna Marie on July 30, 2014, 08:22:32 AM
Is there any chance of getting them to *actually* submit it to the insurance? It'll be denied, but then you'll have the proof of denial.

I wish I had some confidence that submitting won't create a cascade of unforeseen and unintended consequences. I fear that involving the insurance company would be poking an entirely new hornets nest with demands from them for documents, phone calls, or worse.
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Kassie

Submitted to insurance perhaps your doctor can make it look like it was necessary if they don't pay then I agree you can turn that in to your spending account people
Good luck be safe insurance and doctors billing departments can definitely be a nightmare
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suzifrommd

Finally this all got resolved. Took weeks of phone calls back and forth, but finally the flexplan people said they'd accept a letter on the hospital letterhead saying that insurance is not involved and that my patient responsibility was the money listed on the bill. The people at the hospital call center eagerly complied, and, thank heaven, the whole thing is OVER!!!!
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