Hon, you want to stop them completely? Or just the morning.. um.. "systems check"" Mine stopped after the 2nd or third spiro pill I took.. If I .. uh.. "need too" I can call it up, but it goes away just as quickly .. um.. after.. now on spiro for 3 months, and there is zero chance of me being embarrassed at an inopportune time. It takes quite a bit now to work it. You wrote you were still being plagued by this even after your T dropping.. what did it drop to, if I may ask? "normal" range is.. 347-1190-something.. mine was down to 230 at last check in May, and I'm doing fine. What were you on and for how long? If you were herbals, like AndroEase, well, that specifically didn't work for me either.. in fact, they happened more often. Once I switched to spiro.. whew! finally, relief! @.@