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[bluebirdx88]

Hey all

Please excuse my horrible grammar... Typing on a phone in bed without being able to sleep at 6:30 am can affect ones spelling... (And sense....)

Anyways I've seen a couple of threads revolving peoples experience with their transitions and I cant help but feel somewhat let down by my own.

I used to think my arms had gone somewhat thinner and my hair had improved in quality.... But eh a good few analytical looks in the mirror and hair in the water drainage in the shower confirmed it to be a figure of my imagination.

Im only taking progynova and androcur which is the common prescription to MTF patients in my health care system and hearing all these new words.... Spiro, Progesomethingsomething and well the actual lack of any visible results when I'm clearly young enough and had femenine featues in first place make me feel like I'm really going nowhere...

Should I calm down or try pressure docs for something harder ASAP?  I'm a bit scared that I may be detransitioning or something due to not having the sufficient amounts and instead crating extra testosterone. .. I've also noticed and I'm not sure if it's me or that I really am actually going backwards instead... I mean I could swear that my face wasnt so edgy before, and my shoulders stand out so much more....  I really am scared.

[Leah443]

Ok if its not to personal, about how long have you been on HRT? 

[bluebirdx88]

A month today...

[Miss_Bungle1991]

A month is nothing. It takes a long time to work. Also, genetics will play a large role in how things develop.

[Leah443]

Ok Iv been on hormones for a little over 6 months and am just now getting some results in my face and shoulders. it takes a little time gotta be patient. Why not take a monthly picture of yourself to monitor your progress? oftain we are changing and just don't notice it because we see ourselves every day

[bluebirdx88]

A month is nothing. It takes a long time to work. Also, genetics will play a large role in how things develop.

Aparently there have been people who've noticed what happens before breast development you know.... Sensitivity and like something under them... Within days to 4 weeks in.... As I said I've always had femenine features, to the point I've modelled before HRT thanks to my legs and waist among other things... Alas I really dont have genetics that would take that much hard work I think... Shouldn't I have had these effects as soon as other people?

[bluebirdx88]

Ok Iv been on hormones for a little over 6 months and am just now getting some results in my face and shoulders. it takes a little time gotta be patient. Why not take a monthly picture of yourself to monitor your progress? oftain we are changing and just don't notice it because we see ourselves every day

Mhmmm! I do have a photo shoot every few months so I'm already looking forward to see changes.... let's hope you're right and all I need is time

[Leah443]

like i said it takes time. dont worry if nothing jumps out at you. as the months go on youll look at older pictures and say "i cant believe that was me!"

[Miss_Bungle1991]

Shouldn't I have had these effects as soon as other people?

Not exactly.

Not everyone reacts to HRT the same way.

[Jessica Merriman]

You are going to have to find a lot more patience with HRT. Cis girls take 8 - 10 years to fully develop and that is without fighting "T" to start with. I would not ask to up any HRT for at least three months to see where you are lab work wise. 

[Megumi]

The goal for HRT is to get your body into the typical ranges that females see. What your body does with those hormones is entirely up to it and you've only been on HRT for a month. We can't discuss dosages but for all you know you are on a introductory low dose which is very common for Endocrinologists to do in order to safely get your hormone levels where they need to be.

Just remember your results may vary. We are all human and react to medication differently. I was one of the lucky ones who felt the growth right away, after nearly 9 months that really hasn't amounted to all that much to be honest. I'm still not a full A cup and that could be genetics as my labs show my hormone levels are in the normal ranges for a female in every way. Just give it time which is the hardest thing to do. Just like Jessica said cis women get to spend YEARS developing their bodies without having to fight off the damage that testosterone has done so we can't really expect instant results overnight. That's just unrealistic expectations and this is coming from a person who want's her breasts to hurry up and bud out to a proportionate C cup like 5 minutes ago!

[awilliams1701]

I haven't started yet myself, but I've done a TON of research on the subject. I wouldn't expect to see anything before 3 months and even then would consider myself lucky. If it takes longer than a year, then I would be concerned. Yes there a couple of girls mentioning huge differences after a month, but it seems to be rare. Most seem to say 6 months or so.

The only common thing with HRT that I've noticed is that it is 100% different for everyone.

[V M]

HRT does effect everyone differently

If I remember correctly I mostly felt an itchy feeling after the first month and then my nipples began to mound and ache a little while later, but I didn't really see any noticeable growth until about the third month

The best advise I can give is to be patient and follow your doctors advise

Hugs and best wishes

[bluebirdx88]

Thank you so much for all of your replies I'll answer in one big paragraph as it's been a few replies to answer one by one without repeating myself..

It took me years of living fulltime, which includes a lot of patience just to get to the point when I started HRT... So a bit more of a wait won't hurt, I guess I'll just have to take it calmly as I have until now.. Maybe due to the feminine feaures in my body I mentioned previously and all the things I've read and seen online I may have gone on and built castles in the sky expecting way too much and way too soon. I also did kind of get worried coz I kept seeing the word 'spiro' pop out every where, and I was scared thinking of why on Earth I had never been prescribed that... Though thanks to a member in another thread I've learnt that it's the same thing as Androcur... This has relaxed me a bit... I'm seeing my sociologist on the 6th of next month for a check-up, and considering how many MtF and FtM patients she sees (Over 1000 just in my Gender Identity Center in my local hospital... It deals with everyone for the whole country, and there's only one endo, psychologist, psychiatrist, and sociologist for everyone...) So I'm guessing that if my progress is being slow she will notice and can direct me to the endo.... Or at least put me in the queue for a citation.

I guess my main priority for now is to calm down and stop aspiring for changes until I see them... If different people really do react differently, I will have to ready for little or negative effects... *sighs* I'm not being negative or anything, just my way of trying to be rational, hehe...

Thanks again for all of your replies, I think things are bit clearer for me now! *hugs*

[EmmaMcAllister]

Spiro and Androcur are both anti-androgens, yes, but the work differently. As I understand it, doctors usually prefer Spiro because Androcur is harmful to the liver.

[Ruth Ruthless]

Reading the side effects both are known to cause liver problems. I'm 8 months and no changes except small breast growth after 3 months. It can take time if it works at all. Started age 34.

[Kaelin]

The WPATH standards of care goes into some detail about "typical" results (scroll down to the second table):

https://www.susans.org/wiki/Standards_of_Care_for_the_Health_of_Transsexual,_Transgender,_and_Gender_Nonconforming_People#Physical_Effects_of_Hormone_Therapy

Growth (not just nipple hardness) is expected to *start* within 3 to 6 months, although some people fall outside of this range.  Most other "positive" effects will start around that time as well.