My drama topic. Will I be able to pass and how bad is to have a big brow?

[Natalia]

Hello friends!

What can I do? I had my FFS done and I am happy, but I am also very unhappy.

I always had a very high hairline that receded at the corners, but I was happy because I was being able to hide it with the right hairstyle. Since I changed my hairstyle people started to call me lady a lot (even when I was trying to pass a boy) and I got very happy because of that!

Before changing hairstyle/After changing hairstyle


But my brow bossing, nose and Adam's apple weren't helping at all and I got really anxious for my FFS...I could barely sleep on the days before it.

The FFs was done on September 5th. I stood at the hospital with almost no pain and swelling, but I could only see my eyes for a few days. When the doctor unwrapped the bandages around my head...I had an unpleasant surprise: my hair was completely messy because of the blood and I had the impression that my hairline was even higher than before. It was an image that I want to forget!



Sure, I got happy with my new brow. No bossing at all! Very feminine! My eyes were looking bigger and my eyebrows are great!

But then...here comes the obsessive thinking...my hair...my hair...my hair...big brow...big brow...big brow...

Ok, it is dirty and messy...only after I wash it I will know.

Got discharged two days after and at home my face started to swell a lot! Had a bit of pain, but nothing compared to the psychological pain..."my brow is huge, it looks like a big LCD screen, not a brow!"
I had my hair gently washed...it was great! My face got rid of the swelling today and then I tried to comb my hair and style it like before...but I could not cover my brow as before...



Then I read that when it is made a coronary incision the hairline indeed is raised.
"Amazing!"

My nose is still unknown to me, but it is not bothering me at all...I think it will be a feminine nose although it looks round now.

I fear that I had my face improved at some parts at the cost of other parts. Will I be able to pass having mainly no bossing and a very feminine nose but a high hairline?

Yesterday I went to McDonald's and the employee called me lady...perhaps I am exaggerating...perhaps I can pass even now...

But I am at a point where I really have no reference point.

No one I know can tell me if I look feminine or not and if this hair problem will be a problem.

I am sorry about posting this much drama about one insignificant thing...must be the post-op depression everyone talks about!

Please, can you people help me with sincere comments as always? Thanks and sorry for this much drama again!

[Jaz650]

You look awesome! Completely passable.

[Dee]

I know so many (cis) girls with high hairlines, you shouldn't worry about it!

And you really do look great. While I have no reference point for recovering from a surgery like this, it would seem that being happy about any of the results this early would be a great sign!

[Delsorou]

Tons and tons of cis women have insecurities about their hairlines being too high if non-trans-specialized plastic surgeon's websites are anything go to by.  And I don't think any of them are worried that it will make them look male.  Your face is beautiful already, and the swelling has barely even started to go down.  You look 100% feminine, and I don't think your hairline height will provide you problems with being perceived as female.

However the point of FFS is to help reduce gender dysphoria, not necessarily to make you look a specific way.  If your hairline still creates GD once you're completely healed and used to being read as female all the time (and you should be judging from those photos) and the swelling is gone, then you can always look into transplants or other options to change it.

But seriously, I think you'll be absolutely fine, you look great!

[Ms Grace]

Your brow looks great! I take your point about hairline but I've seen similar on many, many, many cis women. Once the swelling is gone and you get your hair styled you should look fabbo!

[Lauren1]

Your forehead more than compensates for it. The result actually looks spectacular (even with the swelling!). So don't worry, you pass. And I hope your happy with your nose, but we won't know for 6 months ;-)

[stephaniec]

I  agree with the others  you look fine.

[Allyda]

Hi Natalia,

You know me, I have never sugar coated any answer I've given you, and I'm not going to start now. I agree with everyone else here hun you look absolutely fabilous. Several of my cis girlfriends have a hairline higher than yours. Wait til all the swelling goes down hun, style your hair the way you want and then take some photos and judge from those. I think you'll be more than happy, and look gorgeous to boot!

Ally

[patrick1967]

you look great sweetheart. If the hairline is a concern after everything settles down you can al its sweeps your forehead or with bangs that would help cover that. I'm still pre trans bio female n you look better than me girl

[G14]

I think you look great, and even better when the swelling subsides. If it's ok to ask... who performed your surgery by the way?

[adrian]

Natalia, you look absolutely feminine and you look awesome!

[GendrKweer]

I think a high forehead often is a feminine trait.. google Christina Ricci for example. But if it bothers you, though, grow some bangs!

[Natalia]

Thanks everyone =)

Indeed a high hairline is not really a masculine trait and many cis girls have it. My problem is that, besides the high hairline, the corners receded and overall my hair is still quite thin and weak and I can barely cover the bald spots that screams "male pattern baldness"... I could cover those bald spots better before the FFS...now they are way more evident...and this is what is driving me nuts. I don't have enough hair to change my hairstyle...I think I would kill to have bangs =)

A hair transplant is at my plans, but now I am low on money and I also need to wait at least 6 months to fully recover from the FFS...so I guess I'll have to deal with life this way. I will not hold my plans of going full time until next month because of it...I just hope you are all right and that, at least about my face, I'll pass.

@ G14:
My FFS was done with Facial Team here at São Paulo, with Drs. Daniel Simon and Thiago Tenorio. They were really great and I dont have any regrets of chosing them. They told me that my nose was completely broken and that it was very hard to fix the septum...also they were amazing about my brow bossing =) If my hairline was not affected then I would be the happiest girl on Earth!

[innainka]

Hey, I know how unnerving is to see one self right after FFS and not see the woman one was promised, or at least imagined!
I work with FFS patients and know exactly how precious time is and telling someone of the necessary recovery time being 10-16 months is quite extensive for something which seems suppose to happen immediately.
But you also must understand that your face right now looks nothing like the face it will be 12 months from now.
You have gone through trauma to bone and soft tissue, these have to heal and also given the continuing hormone therapy, you will be morphing into more and more feminine texture, geometry and overall look.
The results are quite impressive, you are visibly a woman even now, but do not settle for this being a final result. It will be shocking to compare todays photo to one 12 months in the future.


PS; have you had Hairline advancement procedure included within FFS surgery?

[Autumn Faith]

  Ummm ok I think you look awesome!!!  Personally hunny I dont think you have to worry.... if you are still that concerned. .. do what I do and alot of other non and genetic women do and shave it all off hunny and buy a good quality natural wig.... the bright side is you never have a bad hair day ....

   Hugggsss....  Autumn.

[LizMarie]

Your last photo now with the FFS even with the swelling screams female to me. Give it some time!

[Michelle G]

Like the others I see all girl in your last pic

And yes I notice lots of CIS girls around town with high hair lines, seems to not be a big deal in the real world

So excited to see the new you when the swelling and healing is over

[Natalia]

Thanks again friends =)

I am feeling much better today! Probably I was passing for the post-op depression... regrets about having the FFS done or thoughts about having chosen the wrong procedures. It is just hard to have high expectations, look at the mirror, and not be able to see them the way you were imagining. Yeah, I know...I just need to let time do its job.

Yesterday I had one very hard depression crisis and could not stop crying.

However, that was yesterday.

Even with the high hairline, this is not the end of the world. I am still able to cover my bald spots and I will live with it. There are even famous cis-girls who like to present bald and they are not less feminine because of that (Sinnead O'Connor!). On the next months, when my hair is stronger, I'll see if I can change and have it better styled! Until there, I'l just be myself! =)

[Allyda]

Even with the high hairline, this is not the end of the world. I am still able to cover my bald spots and I will live with it. There are even famous cis-girls who like to present bald and they are not less feminine because of that (Sinnead O'Connor!). On the next months, when my hair is stronger, I'll see if I can change and have it better styled! Until there, I'l just be myself! =)

This is a great attitude to have Natalia I for one am very proud of you. Although, as I stated earlier you look great and very feminine. Your all girl hun!

Ally

[lemon_ice]

Please don't take this the wrong way Natalia, but I've thought you were really cute -don't worry I'm straight And I think that you'll be graduating to super cute now once you're healed.
Also don't worry, I'm having FFS myself in just over 4 weeks, I KNOW I will freak out and think I look totally disgusting.. really not looking forward to that post-op depression bit, especially being ten thousand kilometres away from anyone I know for the duration.. I think you're doing really well and sounding quite happy which is great! good on you : )

Well rest up and take care pretty lady

Claire