Tell Me Bruce Jenner Isn't Transitioning

[Jill F]

So, does this mean I should eat more Wheaties?

/snark

If Bruce is transgender, then she has been transgender and trying to cope with it long before 1976 and fame.  If this is the case, then she has my sympathy.  Having to be in perpetual "guy mode" indefinitely and not being to come out because of a celebrity family and a transphobic publicist must suck pretty royally.  If not, then he's doing a very calculated act in order to mess with our heads because of the rumors that have been flying for ages.  I think it's pretty clear that Bruce is at very least an avid crossdreser, but for all I know that's as far as it goes.  Crossdressing is actually far more common than people will let on.  I personally think it's nobody's business but Bruce's until (s)he comes clean publically about it.  Until that happens, I refuse to speculate.  I have far better things to do than keep up with Kardashians.

I wonder where Bruce was at the Elton John show.  I was 10th row center and saw plenty of celebs, but I didn't see Bruce.   

[Devlyn]

Jill, among crossdressers we say that 1 in 20 people dresses, much higher than the numbers frequently cited for transgender people. Maybe due to differing interpetations of what transgender includes?

[Jill F]

Jill, among crossdressers we say that 1 in 20 people dresses, much higher than the numbers frequently cited for transgender people. Maybe due to differing interpetations of what transgender includes?

I just realized after that post that I was probably going to get hit over semantics.  By "transgender" here, I meant female-identified and transitioning.  I probably should have been more clear and said "transsexual".  I tend to think of the term "transgender" as someone who ID's as something other than their GAAB, but I know plenty of people who cast the net a bit wider.

No offense meant.

I've actually heard that probably 50% of self-ID'd (cis)guys wear women's things at least once. 

[Devlyn]

I wouldn't argue with 50%, I think every guy grabs that bra and panties once, don't they?

[Jill F]

I wouldn't argue with 50%, I think every guy grabs that bra and panties once, don't they?

I don't know actually.  I never dressed until I was finally honest with myself at age 43.  Did I want to before that?  Yes.  I was just afraid of where it would lead me.  I didn't want to open that fat can of worms until I was actually hospitalized.

[TinaVane]

I guess he is transitioning. Radaronline has pics of him up with nail polish on. And before people saying why the media all on him well that family craved this attention so now they have to deal with it


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[Jill F]

I guess he is transitioning. Radaronline has pics of him up with nail polish on. And before people saying why the media all on him well that family craved this attention so now they have to deal with it


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Nail polish does not prove MTF transition.  I was in bands with cishet guys who wore black nail polish. 

[ErinWDK]

Nail polish does not prove MTF transition.  I was in bands with cishet guys who wore black nail polish. 

Talking with a small group of my cishet friends about how androgynous I dare get it seemed that nail poilish would be a "bridge too far" while ear rings would be pushing the limit.  Now the nail polish in question would be the flaming pink stuff I use not black that might have matched something in a band uniform.  They are also probably thinking of the small ear rings some of the young guys wear in church - not the big dangly things I would use (but then I might compromise a wee bit).  My trans doctor took the opposite view when I showed up with the pink nail polish and no ear rings - she wondered why I didn't "dress" (in that outfit most random people read me as female...)

I agree, even with the nail polish incident it is useless to speculate.  It would seem most any which way Bruce has had a difficult go of it, and being associated with Kris and her clan has probably made it worse.


Erin

[Mary Anne]

Perhaps this has already been posed, but what will it take to resolve
this speculation?  I don't know whether it really matters, but I don't
think anyone should be tortured for their choice.

[Jill F]

Perhaps this has already been posed, but what will it take to resolve
this speculation?  I don't know whether it really matters, but I don't
think anyone should be tortured for their choice.

I'm one to think that the only thing that will resolve the speculation is when/if they come out publically.  Either way, I hope that Bruce will tread carefully as not to shed negative light upon this community.

[Wynternight]

I'm one to think that the only thing that will resolve the speculation is when/if they come out publically.  Either way, I hope that Bruce will tread carefully as not to shed negative light upon this community.

Bruce is part of the Kardashian clown show so if it turns out he is transitioning I think there will be plenty of negative light cast our way. I hope I'm wrong but something tells me I'm not.

[JessicaH]

I'm going to laugh if Bruce comes out of the closet and we find out that he is a member here and participating in the thread! lol I know it's something I would do if I were a secretly transitioning celebrity. You never know who here who it could be...

[Jenny07]

I actually think I know who she is on Susan's.
Clues form a while ago.

Interesting, but her secret is safe with me.

[Devlyn]

I really don't care about any perceived negativity that would be cast on our community by one of us transitioning. I hope Bruce gets all the love and support any transgender person finds when they come here. And I share the belief that she is already here on the site.

Hugs, Devlyn

[Jess42]

Bruce is part of the Kardashian clown show so if it turns out he is transitioning I think there will be plenty of negative light cast our way. I hope I'm wrong but something tells me I'm not.

Unfortunately, I don't think you are wrong. Just being clumped with the Kardashians will be negative enough.

I really don't care about any perceived negativity that would be cast on our community by one of us transitioning. I hope Bruce gets all the love and support any transgender person finds when they come here. And I share the belief that she is already here on the site.

Me too. Actually I would be a little disappointed if they don't get the same love and support. Whether or not she's here already, who knows? If so, I really don't care. But it just make you wonder how many here are on the famous side though, but again I really don't care. They are just another human being here to me. Even in RL they are nothing more than another human being. Some celebrities may think they are Super Humans but that's just their egos.

[Cindy]

I'm going to lock this topic.

Anyone who is gender diverse, their partners and others who are interested and supportive are welcome.

I think it would be very difficult for a person in public life to transition, we all know from personal experience how tough the journey can be.

Let us rejoice that high profile people can, if they wish, transition.

Let us rejoice that we can be accepted, no matter who we are.