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Injection sight soreness, Is this normal?

Started by Rachel, September 30, 2014, 07:28:37 PM

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Rachel

I did my 1st injection at 4 PM yesterday. The area around the injection site is sore, is this normal? If normal how long does it last? If it is not normal what did I do wrong? I was under a Nurses supervision and did it correctly. There was no air in the needle or syringe.

I could not believe how easy the needle went in and there was no pain at all. I did have 2 muscle twitches during the injection.

Thanks for the help.

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Jessica Merriman

I would not worry yet. I do my own and even after my long career giving them I may move or something and cause a boo boo. You may have accidentally nicked a nerve or the amount of fluid was too much for the muscle. It could be many things. I would only worry if it is not gone in three days or so or changes color or hives appear. Keep us posted!  :)
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Sydney_NYC

It's normal to be a little sore in the muscle that is injected for a day. (I did mine this morning.) Sometimes you do hit a nerve (like this morning) and it will hurt more. Other times, you barely feel it at all. I've notice that after 5 or 6 times, you get used to it and you don't really feel sore anymore afterwards.
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VivianK

I've dabbled in intramuscular and intravenous injection of various substances throughout my lifetime, and had plenty of injections administered by technically qualified medical staff.  What I can say with certainty regarding intramuscular injections is that there is no need to rush them; do them as slowly as possible.  The faster one injects fluid into their muscles, the longer the tissue will take to recover.  I've had nurses hammer shots into me that caused painful, visible bruises that lasted for days, while when I've done my own (for very different reasons,) VERY slowly, I wouldn't have known anything had been injected if I hadn't done it myself.  If injections are done slowly enough, you should have virtually no pain afterwards.
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Apples Mk.II

The time I missed a lot the injection point (miscalculated the height and did it lower, having to pierce through a lot of butt fat), the injecting was extra painful, and I spent the rest of the day literally "butthurt". If I do it at the perfect spot, I feels as if I haven't even injected.
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KayXo

In my experience, pain (muscle soreness) that begins around 24 hours after and lasts a few days is NOT a good sign and may be a sign that you may be either allergic to something in formula or that it wasn't formulated correctly (not enough alcohol/oil leaving crystals behind in muscle causing pain) or simply that the nurse didn't do it properly.

I had this sort of soreness with all injections on a given vial and none, after I advised the pharmacy, with future vials. They probably changed something so that now it doesn't hurt at all. Only sometimes at the moment of injecting it, depending on how tense I am and/or nurse's style of administration and/or spot where injected. The trick is to put all the tension in the other leg/butt where it is NOT injected, leaving the area of injection totally relaxed, this makes a huge difference for immediate pain after injection.

Best of luck!
I am not a medical doctor, nor a scientist - opinions expressed by me on the subject of HRT are merely based on my own review of some of the scientific literature over the last decade or so, on anecdotal evidence from women in various discussion forums that I have come across, and my personal experience

On HRT since early 2004
Post-op since late 2005
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Rachel

Thank you everyone for the replies.

It has been 48 hours and the soreness is slowly going away. When I injected I felt nothing with the exception of a muscle twinge. The nurse said to inject fast so that may be an issue. I also need to relax fully the leg I am injecting into. I walk up 11 flights every morning with another person and there is hardly any notice during the activity.

I have to repeat the injection training because I passed out after the injection.

On a side note I have been more emotional today :)
HRT  5-28-2013
FT   11-13-2015
FFS   9-16-2016 -Spiegel
GCS 11-15-2016 - McGinn
Hair Grafts 3-20-2017 - Cooley
Voice therapy start 3-2017 - Reene Blaker
Labiaplasty 5-15-2017 - McGinn
BA 7-12-2017 - McGinn
Hair grafts 9-25-2017 Dr.Cooley
Sataloff Cricothyroid subluxation and trachea shave12-11-2017
Dr. McGinn labiaplasty, hood repair, scar removal, graph repair and bottom of  vagina finished. urethra repositioned. 4-4-2018
Dr. Sataloff Glottoplasty 5-14-2018
Dr. McGinn vaginal in office procedure 10-22-2018
Dr. McGinn vaginal revision 2 4-3-2019 Bottom of vagina closed off, fat injected into the labia and urethra repositioned.
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VivianK

#7
Based on supplemental research I've done on this issue, the primary reason nurses seem to be trained to administer injections quickly is to avoid anxiety and perceived pain at the time of injection with the large number of patients made uncomfortable by needles: particularly children.  You should insert the needle quickly, gently attempt to "register" the shot (pull back on the plunger) to make sure you've not hit a blood vessel, (in which case you'll see blood in the barrel,) and proceed to inject the fluid at whatever speed you're most comfortable.  If you're uncomfortable with having a needle stuck in you for thirty seconds, and the feeling of the injected fluid causing pressure in you muscle causes anxiety and makes you feel faint, feel free to go quickly, but know that the speed of injection makes no difference in the efficacy of the administered medication.  If, however, you wish to avoid lasting discomfort and are not uncomfortable with injections in general, go slowly.  You may also want to avoid exercising, sitting on, or massaging the injection site for ten to fifteen minutes after administration, while the fluid is still being evenly distributed.
Prior to the first time I injected anything, needles made me very uncomfortable and faint.  I quickly grew comfortable with it by associating the injection with the effect of whatever it was I was putting in myself, and am no longer bothered in the slightest by them, in spite of the fact that I haven't used one in years.  If needles make you uncomfortable, try thinking about what the estrogen is going to do for you as you do it.  Having a positive association will help things become easier, in much the same way it did for me when I came to associate needles with a huge surge of dopamine.  It does get easier.  I promise.
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KayXo

Quote from: VivianK on October 02, 2014, 01:48:10 PM
If needles make you uncomfortable, try thinking about what the estrogen is going to do for you as you do it.  Having a positive association will help things become easier, in much the same way it did for me when I came to associate needles with a huge surge of dopamine.  It does get easier.  I promise.

Indeed. That's exactly what happened to me. Not the slightest amount of fear anymore. :) I enjoy it more than apprehend it.
I am not a medical doctor, nor a scientist - opinions expressed by me on the subject of HRT are merely based on my own review of some of the scientific literature over the last decade or so, on anecdotal evidence from women in various discussion forums that I have come across, and my personal experience

On HRT since early 2004
Post-op since late 2005
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Rachel

Thank you everyone for responding.

About 5 days after the injection all tenderness was gone.

I can say after day 1 I was much more happy and emotional and now at day 6 my areolas are very sore :)

I can not wait till next Monday.
HRT  5-28-2013
FT   11-13-2015
FFS   9-16-2016 -Spiegel
GCS 11-15-2016 - McGinn
Hair Grafts 3-20-2017 - Cooley
Voice therapy start 3-2017 - Reene Blaker
Labiaplasty 5-15-2017 - McGinn
BA 7-12-2017 - McGinn
Hair grafts 9-25-2017 Dr.Cooley
Sataloff Cricothyroid subluxation and trachea shave12-11-2017
Dr. McGinn labiaplasty, hood repair, scar removal, graph repair and bottom of  vagina finished. urethra repositioned. 4-4-2018
Dr. Sataloff Glottoplasty 5-14-2018
Dr. McGinn vaginal in office procedure 10-22-2018
Dr. McGinn vaginal revision 2 4-3-2019 Bottom of vagina closed off, fat injected into the labia and urethra repositioned.
Dr. Thomas in 2020 FEMLAR
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VivianK

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Dani:  Your question made me curious, as things pertaining to medical science so often do, so I looked into it for a bit.  Everything I've ever injected has either been soluble in water or weak acid, so prior to you asking, the thought never crossed my mind that a few medications might actually benefit from it in some way.  Where estrogen valerate is specifically concerned, I find some sources recommending massage while others advising against it.  What I find that many of these sources have in common is the use of a heating pad, which seems perfectly sound to me.  Regarding whether massage increases/decreases injection site pain and/or increases bioavailability of medications, there doesn't appear to be a significant amount of study to either support or refute the conventional wisdom of medical professionals who recommend massage, post injection.

A link to one of the studies I found:
www.ijnonline.com/index.php/ijn/article/download/60/pdf_9

Two conflicting sets of instructions for injecting E2:
https://www.fphandbook.org/giving-injection
http://www.center4reproduction.com/injection-instructions/estradiol-valerate-delestrogen-injection-instructions.htm

Based on everything I've read so far, what I've been able gather can be summarized thusly:
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Newgirl Dani

Hey VivianK, like the visual aid  :)  What I do is warm the EV, mainly to shorten the injection time (I still take my time though, no hurry).  I'm sure that a secondary benefit would be to allow the oil to spread out inside the muscle just a bit eaiser.  I am gentle with the massage and only do it for about 15 seconds, also I've yet to have any soreness.  I guess my plan then is to just keep donig what I'm doing.  Thanks for your time and interest though, I'm kind of a science geek myself (used to work as an industrial quality control chemist).  Have work outside so I'll have to check out the links tonight.  Dani
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KayXo

Quote from: Newgirl Dani on October 06, 2014, 10:44:21 AM
I was taught by my nurse to immediately massage the injection site gently as soon as I got the bandage on.  She stated that it disperses the oil, otherwise it will remain in a tiny ball within the muscle and not absorb into my system over time in the correct manner.

Not true. I've NEVER massaged the area injected and my levels have skyrocketed! Close to 4,000 pg/ml. No pain, no soreness, no tiny ball formation if vial is "clean" and formula is well made. As far as I'm concerned, a waste of time. Just my opinion based on my own experience.


 
I am not a medical doctor, nor a scientist - opinions expressed by me on the subject of HRT are merely based on my own review of some of the scientific literature over the last decade or so, on anecdotal evidence from women in various discussion forums that I have come across, and my personal experience

On HRT since early 2004
Post-op since late 2005
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Sydney_NYC

I was told by both my doctor and a nurse that the only reason to rub the area after injection is to help prevent knots forming in the muscle around the injection site.
Sydney





Born - 1970
Came Out To Self/Wife - Sept-21-2013
Started therapy - Oct-15-2013
Laser and Electrolysis - Oct-24-2013
HRT - Dec-12-2013
Full time - Mar-15-2014
Name change  - June-23-2014
GCS - Nov-2-2017 (Dr Rachel Bluebond-Langner)


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